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    NYc opera goers may be interested in this event at the Poisson Rouge in the Village on Jan 15:

    http://www.lepoissonrouge.com/lpr_ev...ary-15th-2014/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marge_Simpson View Post
    NYc opera goers may be interested in this event at the Poisson Rouge in the Village on Jan 15:

    http://www.lepoissonrouge.com/lpr_ev...ary-15th-2014/
    Anyone who is in NYC MUST go and report back! (Maybe there's an off chance LPR will do an online stream) This event wasn't announced when I bought my bus tickets to come to the Marilyn Horne 80th birthday gala at Carnege on Jan. 16 and I can't take more time off after Nationals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spun Silver View Post
    Was this your first time seeing it? If so, that could be the reason right there.
    Yes, it was my first time seeing the opera (in HD). While I am not familiar with Shakespeare's Falstaff, I did see a delightful English-language production of Otto Nicolai's "Merry Wives of Windsor" this past summer. Therefore, the general story was still fresh in my mind.

    Falstaff is such a unique work, unlike anything else Verdi or anyone else wrote, so if you come to it thinking you are going to hear something like Traviata or Rigoletto you could be taken aback.
    I actually heard the opening night broadcast, so I went in with a vague musical idea, hoping to understand how that music related to the story.

    It is (to me) as if at the end of his creative life Verdi listened afresh to the Marriage of Figaro or Mendelssohn's Midsummer Night's Dream and reinvented his own musical idiom.
    ...but I love Marriage of Figaro (ok, the recits sometimes get tiring) - the arias and ensembles are so memorable! And I love Mendelssohn's AMND - a perfect musical storytelling!.. Verdi's fusion was a different result.

    I would say to approach it (a) as an ensemble work, (b) as an orchestral work, and (c) perhaps through some familiarity with Shakespeare's Falstaff. That is not the way one usually approaches Verdi, or opera for that matter.
    a) I did. That part worked.
    b) This may be the most important point
    c) I will make sure to dig deeper before giving it another try.

    Listen, listen, listen (it takes time and repeated exposure).
    Yes, this definitely wasn't love at first sight/hearing.

    And it would help if you could come to love the absurd, grotesque, lovable character of Falstaff himself, one of the greatest characters ever invented.
    How could one NOT love Maestri's Falstaff?? He was absolutely brilliant.

    THANK YOU, Spun Silver, for your detailed post. This is how I learn, opera novice I still am.

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    That sounds like a great event, Marge_Simpson!

    I missed the James Levine intermission interview this afternoon from the Metropolitan Opera Orchestra's concert at Carnegie Hall when it was broadcast live, and I was just listening to it. He was talking about why Mahler's 7th Symphony, was is played so little in comparison to Mahler's other symphonies. He said,

    I also think that most great composers eventually write a piece for mostly themselves, as opposed to wanting to please an audience, per se, and I call this a sort of personal 'everything but the kitchen sink,' idea, that is a piece that seems to governed by what the composer really wanted to write, irrespective of how anyone else would react to it. Usually, I think, a composer writes for himself and for the public in the same motive, in the same....it's for him mostly the same thing, but the 7th Symphony has a language, and an effect, and a set of ideas which though they're very clearly by Mahler, and they certainly have things in common with materials of other symphonies, but the 7th Symphony...
    and then goes on to explain what makes the 7th symphony unique.

    That's what I was trying to express about "Falstaff": it's Verdi, but he had enough money, and he was sick of people by then, and he wrote what he wanted. It wasn't a "kitchen sink" kind of thing, because it's so tight, but it was for himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwanfan1818 View Post
    That sounds like a great event, Marge_Simpson!
    Come to NYC and check it out!

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    I'll be in Ottawa
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    Yes, I forgot about that.
    But I have to go to work on Wednesday, so someone else will have to go and report back.
    Where are you, emason???

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    Lurking about. Going to the Frick to see the Vermeers on Thursday, but no up-coming opera plans.

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    oh cool for seeing the Vermeers! I'm going to the Sackler this morning for the Yoga show as my sister the Yoga nut is in town.

    No opera plans til March, but I'm going to hear Matthias Goerne sing Schubert in January.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaSherka View Post
    Yes, it was my first time seeing the opera (in HD). While I am not familiar with Shakespeare's Falstaff, I did see a delightful English-language production of Otto Nicolai's "Merry Wives of Windsor" this past summer. Therefore, the general story was still fresh in my mind.


    I actually heard the opening night broadcast, so I went in with a vague musical idea, hoping to understand how that music related to the story.


    ...but I love Marriage of Figaro (ok, the recits sometimes get tiring) - the arias and ensembles are so memorable! And I love Mendelssohn's AMND - a perfect musical storytelling!.. Verdi's fusion was a different result.


    a) I did. That part worked.
    b) This may be the most important point
    c) I will make sure to dig deeper before giving it another try.


    Yes, this definitely wasn't love at first sight/hearing.


    How could one NOT love Maestri's Falstaff?? He was absolutely brilliant.


    THANK YOU, Spun Silver, for your detailed post. This is how I learn, opera novice I still am.
    I forgot the most important thing: just follow your nose and love what you love. It is much more important that you love some opera than that you love any particular opera! (And NOTHING beats The Marriage of Figaro! )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spun Silver View Post
    I forgot the most important thing: just follow your nose and love what you love. It is much more important that you love some opera than that you love any particular opera! (And NOTHING beats The Marriage of Figaro! )

    Here's the Falstaff finale and here's the absolute best part of The Marriage of Figaro, both excerpts featuring cast.

    PS. I generally live in a bel canto world of Rossini & Bellini, with pleasant trips into the Handel & Mozart territory
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    Thank you for that Falstaff clip! It was a treat to see Freni! IIRC I saw her in that opera but with a much greater Falstaff, Giuseppe Taddei, a looooong time ago.

    I will happily join you in bel canto land this spring - I will be seeing both I Puritani and La Sonnambula! (To make a skating connection, I wrote to Meryl and Charlie suggesting they do a FD to Sonnambula. I thought it would be so stunning... and with a Klimova-esque opportunity for Meryl to trail her long locks... but it was not to be. ) And I love Rossini, Handel, and above all Mozart. I am with you on that sublime moment in Figaro too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spun Silver View Post
    I will happily join you in bel canto land this spring - I will be seeing both I Puritani and La Sonnambula!
    I've got tickets to I Puritani for April 26! And Cosi the same day and Cenerentola the previous night. It's our planned opera immersion weekend with IoanaC! I saw Met's La Sonnambula with Dessay & Florez and as much as I like Damrau and curious about Camarena, I am only going to see it if I somehow end up in NYC for Werther or, less likely, Wozzeck...

    (To make a skating connection, I wrote to Meryl and Charlie suggesting they do a FD to Sonnambula. I thought it would be so stunning... and with a Klimova-esque opportunity for Meryl to trail her long locks... but it was not to be. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaSherka View Post
    I've got tickets to I Puritani for April 26! And Cosi the same day and Cenerentola the previous night. It's our planned opera immersion weekend with IoanaC! I saw Met's La Sonnambula with Dessay & Florez and as much as I like Damrau and curious about Camarena, I am only going to see it if I somehow end up in NYC for Werther or, less likely, Wozzeck...
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    You are one heck of an opera novice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spun Silver View Post
    You are one heck of an opera novice!

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    I've been listening to the Met channel on Sirius. Last night, they broadcast Radvanovsky as Tosca, which was great. (It's airing again on Saturday on national radio.) Tonight, they were airing The Magic Flute. It was an English translation, which I've never heard before. I came to the conclusion that most operas are better if you don't follow the words literally.

    On the subject of The Magic Flute, I saw the LA Opera's production a few weeks ago, which was a production from Berlin. It relied on video projections for all of the scenery and even for many characters. It also used silent movie tropes, so instead of having the spoken parts of the libretto, it projected the dialogue. And the singers were dressed in clothing that evoked the silent movie period, e.g., Pamina looked like Louise Brooks and Papageno looked like Buster Keaton. All of the performers had to interact with the video projections, such as the Queen of the Night, who was a giant spider. All you could see of the performer was her head. Her body was a projection and characters had to react to the spider's legs when they moved on the screen. Here is a video to give you an idea of what it was like. It really was wild and unlike anything I've ever seen before. The production will be done in Minnesota soon, so anyone in the vicinity really should try to go.

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    I love the idea of projecting the dialogue for The Magic Flute.

    I heard the Tosca last night. Giordani, whom I normally like a lot, sounded like he was being tortured, starting in Act I...
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    Ohhh, reckless, I envy you! If only LA were a tad closer, I would've hopped right over for that production and I don't even like Magic Flute. Doubt Minnesota is any more feasible...

    Yesterday, I opted for a live radio broadcast from Liceu in Barcelona of Massenet's Cendrillon with DiDonato, Coote, Podles, Massis & Naouri (thanks, kwanfan, btw ). Ended up buying the DVD of the same production as soon as it was over. There should be another broadcast on Jan. 2 in case anyone wants to get their dose of Cinderella & Prince Charming

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaSherka View Post
    Ohhh, reckless, I envy you! If only LA were a tad closer, I would've hopped right over for that production and I don't even like Magic Flute. Doubt Minnesota is any more feasible...

    Yesterday, I opted for a live radio broadcast from Liceu in Barcelona of Massenet's Cendrillon with DiDonato, Coote, Podles, Massis & Naouri (thanks, kwanfan, btw ). Ended up buying the DVD of the same production as soon as it was over. There should be another broadcast on Jan. 2 in case anyone wants to get their dose of Cinderella & Prince Charming
    You need to come to LA and time it so you're here on a night when I have tickets. For bel canto fans, we have Lucia di Lammermoor coming up in March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reckless View Post
    You need to come to LA and time it so you're here on a night when I have tickets. For bel canto fans, we have Lucia di Lammermoor coming up in March.
    Planning to go to Chicago in March and already have tickets for LAPhil, but in Boston )) Maybe next season... need to find friends in Cali to visit ))

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