Montreal did not hurt itself with 55K attending the CONCACAF Champions League playoff game there last week. Vancouver is still in the running. And St Louis. A few others, too. To be honest, I really do not care who they take now. All efforts here are to try to save Miami, FC from going under.
Originally Posted by Buzz
Im surprised that St. Louis still doesn't have an MLS team, as it's been big on the sport going back many many years.
I think MLS needs to be real careful right now. With the economy in the tank, they should be real cautious about doing any expansion. The breakdown in Miami is indicative of this. They really don't want to lose franchises, especially new ones. So far they've done OK, as Toronto seems to be thriving, and Seattle seems to be on sound footing. But they need to be conservative about handing out new franchises unless they are certain about the finances and the prospects for a stadium.
They league doesn't really need to add franchises if you ask me.
St Louis has it's own $$$ problems, IIUC. As do others. In fact, none of them are really good for one reason or another. Miami's was the strongest overall until Barca got cold feet over the $40,000,000 Franchise Fee and $20,000,000 start-up expense.
Originally Posted by KHenry14
I think your last sentence says it all. That may be the wisest thing to do for a few years until the economic mess straightens itself out. Seattle in this year, Philly in 2010, then no more teams until 2013 or 2014. Longer if needed.
MLS has lasted longer here than any other top league that I can recall and is improving over time. Taking the long view & not risking the league's existence is the primary concern, IMO. Make haste slowly to at least retain what we have.
NJL (of course transferring a team to another city may have to be done, I hear that Chivas USA is not that strong, and we're not so proud that we'd not welcome them to FIU Stadium....I'm sure that Mr Garber understands that.......In the meantime, we'll do our best to keep the Miami FC Blues alive in USL-1...)
Last edited by NeilJLeonard; 03-06-2009 at 02:28 AM.
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NJL, Chivas USA will always be the step-child to the Galaxy in LA. they draw about 40% less than the Galaxy, and frankly have a LOT of problems with their supporters groups keeping fans away.
Much like the Clippers and the Lakers, until Chivas moves out of the HDC and into their own building (Maybe in the OC?) they will never make any money nor grow the franchise. But I doubt that they would move out of California, as the whole point of the franchise is to draw on the Mexican fanbase. Which is another reason why they don't draw well.
But I agree that overall, MLS is healthy. I just hope Garber doesn't get greedy.
St. Louis' MLS bid just got some help from Anheiser-Busch:
Not sure how much help this will be, but I'm certain Garber would like a larger relationship with the Budweiser people.
One also wonders if Garber is going to look at how well cities like St Louis support their new WPS team before he gives them a bid.
Off Topic, the new women's league is charging way too much for tickets if you ask me...
Looks like the winner is Vancouver!!
The Whitecaps have always been a strong franchise, now they get to take it to the next level. And MLS sets up a local Derby with the Sounders.
BC Place getting the major renovation for the Olympcis helped a lot with this bid. Evidently there is a configuration of the stadium for soccer with a 20K seating arrangement.
Congrats to Vancouver. One more to go for 2011. Wonder who it will be.
Originally Posted by KHenry14
Looks like there is a good possibility that 3 out of the 4 teams left in the CL this year will once again be from the EPL. That cannot be good for the competition but then again the best teams are in England so until the rest of Europe catches up, the EPL will continue to dominate the Champions League.
In CONCACAF WC 2010 qualifying:
Mexico 2 - 0 Costa Rica
TnT 1 - 1 Honduras
El Salvador 2 - 2 USA
Standings as of now:
USA v TnT
Costa Rica v El Salvador
Honduras v Mexico
Last edited by NeilJLeonard; 03-30-2009 at 05:26 PM.
Ugly game by the USA side. Lots of bad performances, but the team was saved by a couple of good subs (Altidore, Torrez) and the gutsy Heyduk. This team badly missed Howard and Bocanegra, plus it needs a gut check by Beasley, Klesjian, Ching and Dempsey.
Good players play well every time out, not just when they feel like it.
If they don't thrash TnT this week I'll be VERY disapointed.
Boca played, he was the USA Captain, but Gooch was out to injury. Guzan ain't Howard. Tim will be a welcome sight in net in Nashville.
Originally Posted by KHenry14
And, El Sal took it to 'em for 75+ minutes. They then packed it in as won & depended on their acting ability, I've never seen so many "injurys" to one team in so short a time in my life, to carry the day (thus the 7 min added time). To the USA's credit they controlled the game to the end & scored 2 goals in less than 15 minutes to salvage a point from what could have been a disastrous defeat. The USA is supposed to be a better team than that, but none of these Central American road games are easy. Still, this had better be a wake up call to Bob Bradley & the squad to extract their head's from their asses and play.
I wonder who BB will play in Nashville on the 1st. As KH pointed out, some USA players really did not make the trip to EL Sal, even though they started. These guys are pros. That's unacceptable. We'll see.
NJL (FYI, Jonathan Boorstein will join the USA squad in Nashville....does this mean that Heath Pierce sits?)
Last edited by NeilJLeonard; 03-30-2009 at 05:29 PM.
About 19 people were killed in a stampede just before a WC qualifier between Malawi and Ivory Coast. Apparently a crowd of people who did not have tickets tried to force their way into the stadium causing a gate to fall, and the following panic caused the stampede.
You are right Neil, Gooch was out, not Boca, but the point was the same, he was missed.
I think if Bornstein was to get a shot, this is a prime spot for him. Plus it's time for Bob Bradley to start Altidore and Torrez to see what they can do. Ching and DMB have been around and are known quantities, such as they are. A home game against TnT is a perfect spot to let these two show their stuff. Plus it might be time for Bradley to get over whatever it is he has against Freddie Adu and give him a shot too.
This team is transitioning, so we need to start playing the up and comers to see who's for real and who isn't. We found out with Eddie Johnson, so now lets find out with Altidore.
Some news from UEFA's WC qualifying games of last weekend.
HEY! Since when have Maradonna been Argentina's coach?!
Buried under a rock apparently... Good luck to them both. Maradonna has had so many problems with drugs and such, I am not convince he will make a good coach.