Yuna shines in qualifying for worlds

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sugar, Jan 6, 2013.

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  1. kwanatic

    kwanatic Well-Known Member

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    Naan, what's wrong with you?! You're crazy!! How can you not like the Kween?! That's it, you're banished!! Banished from FSU, banished from watching figure skating...you're under house arrest! Never come out! No, better yet get thee to the nearest tower and lock yourself in! It'll just be you and Quasimodo up there...how dare you not worship at the feet of the Kwan!? Oh, the horror! The injustice! Oh! *faints* :drama:

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  2. allezfred

    allezfred Prick Admin Staff Member

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    Are you seriously asking me about rudeness and maturity when you're defending lowtherlore and what it said to Aussie Willy?
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  3. kwanatic

    kwanatic Well-Known Member

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    :lol: HA!
  4. theguitarist

    theguitarist New Member

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    For me, Kwan is like a great 'cheerleader' of figure skating, and the north American style of figure skating is besides a bit cheerleading on ice. What Yuna brings to figure skating is quite different; she is more of an introspective skater. If I go Hollywood on this, I'd say Yuna is Nicole Kidmann, icy and stoic yet vulnerable and sensitive, and Kwan, Julia Roberts, a sweetheart with a huge grin. I 'like' Kwan while I am 'fascinated' by Kim.
  5. orientalplane

    orientalplane Mad for mangelwurzels

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    To borrow a quote from Laurence Olivier, Michelle is the orange and Yu-Na is the lemon.

    And we all know there's no point in comparing lemons and oranges, don't we? ;)
  6. naan

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    LMAO. Not every person who doesn't think Kween is a heavenly creature or the goddess of figure skating is Russian. Although OTOH I do strongly suspect that a lot of the Kween fanaticism is strongly tied to patriotism. You are so ridiculously deluded. Get out there and watch more figure skating would help?! :p
    And I want to ask you this: Are you ethnically Asian? I’m asking this WITHOUT ANY racist intent. And if you’re uncomfortable with this, no need to reply. ;)

    :D
  7. naan

    naan New Member

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    Great comparison! :)
  8. kwanatic

    kwanatic Well-Known Member

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    LMAO!! :lol:

    I swear, it's so ridiculous! :rofl:
  9. Robeye

    Robeye Curiously curious

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    Anyone familiar with my posting history (though I don't post often) will see that I'm a committed Yuna fan.

    You've got to stop, take a deep breath, and get a grip. The ungodly shrillness of your conspiracy theories is scaring my dog.

    Yes, there are annoying unreasonable haters and/or sly baiters associated with all the major skaters, and yes, I think Yuna generally comes in for more than her fair share, and yes, there are even examples in this thread (though maybe that just comes with the territory of being the current alpha female in figure skating).

    But Aussie Willie, in my view, is not one of them, not by a long shot. Her posting history gives her prima facie credibility, for starters, and it should be respected. In my view, she qualifies as knowledgeable just based on her posts; she is a lot more knowledgeable than you. Second, although I may not agree with all of her analyses, judgments, or choice of expressions, and there are times when I think she is flat-out wrong, she makes good-faith and conscientious efforts to explain her point of view, and then listen/revise/clarify based on other poster responses (or at least she did, before you started to systematically erode the tone of this thread). The kind of stuff that one would expect in a good discussion among attractively intelligent and reasonable people.

    Even if she were somehow ethnically related to Japan (although apparently she is not), what of it? This is, as you acknowledge, the internet. It is not foreign policy. Given the nature of online discussion, it is not your right to require that any poster share any personal information with you. The unspoken etiquette is that every poster is addressed on an individual basis, and based on what they choose to say.

    I must protest in the strongest possible terms your crude efforts at a kind of ethnic profiling, which I find equally odious whether the situation is the sale of a house to certain people in certain neighborhoods based on what are thought to be certain prevalent characteristics, or in a figure skating forum. (That being said, there are similar posts from the other side of the aisle in this thread, like one of Shine's. I don't know what his problem is either). I certainly would not want others to judge all Yuna fans by some of your posts.
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  10. shine

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    You see, I was very confused and caught off guard by what you were trying to convey in your posts with those expressions, and hence the "Erm" and the "?" were obviously in response to your "?!" and " :confused::lol:". Now, will you please provide a formal defition for those as well?
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  11. os168

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    $&%£*#~?!!

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  12. kwanatic

    kwanatic Well-Known Member

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    You should post more often...well said.
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    ehdtkqorl123 New Member

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    Sigh.. I wonder why there is always a mess on any Yu-Na related thread.
  14. kwanatic

    kwanatic Well-Known Member

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    Oh SNAP! It's like watching Jerry Springer or Maury...

    :watch: :lol:
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    Well, in this case, it all boils down to one extreme poster....
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    Are you seriously asking me about rudeness and maturity when you know what I said is exactly right with regards to you? Enough with your fake outrage about what one person said when you have said things that are FAR worse. You are an "ADMIN." You consistently abuse your position and make personal insults at other people, which if anyone else who wasn't an admin did - they would probably be banned. Nobody else ever says this to you directly, but I will because I really don't have anything to lose - I barely ever post on this website.

    Now I know that snarkiness is accepted and encouraged on this website, but you take it too far. When you are in a position as an admin, you need to remove yourself from the situation and don't just "go along" with the herd/pack mentality of attacking others who don't "conform", which is sadly very present on this website. Insults and nastiness are to be expected from regular posters, not from admins. Honestly, when you resort to personal attacks, it makes you a troll and shows extreme immaturity. If you don't like someone or their posts, then you warn them and/or ban them as an admin. Why stoop down to the level of personal insults. By the way, trying to deflect the blame to me - nice try, but it doesn't refute my points, and it's completely avoiding responding to what I said.
  17. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Port de bras!!!

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    I think I am turning Japanese I think I am turning Japanese I really think so...
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  18. allezfred

    allezfred Prick Admin Staff Member

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    Nothing I have ever posted would get anybody on FSU banned.

    I've had lots of people say things to me directly, but they are generally a lot less passive-aggressive than you are.

    Wouldn't banning someone because I didn't like them or their posts be an abuse of my position as an "ADMIN"? :shuffle:

    Perhaps you should send SHARPIE, the owner of the board, your ideas on how an "ADMIN" should behave. I'm sure she'd be delighted to hear any suggestions you might have. ;)

    In any case, if you are going to defend a xenophobic asshole, you shouldn't get a pass on that just because your opinion is in the minority. Sometimes those in the minority are wrong for a reason.
  19. Zemgirl

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    :rofl: This thread is a gift that keeps on giving.
  20. kwanatic

    kwanatic Well-Known Member

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    ^^It's been keeping me entertained all day. :watch:
  21. shine

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    Oops, I didn't even notice this. I'm sorry, but this is a fail.
  22. skateboy

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    Your motives are obvious. Because Aussie Willy is not gushing over Yuna as much as you believe anyone should, you desperately want to prove that she must be of Japanese descent, which would then prove the reason AW "hates" Yuna is because she is of Japanese descent, since Japanese FS fan = Yuna hater. Then, if all of the above were true, you can then dismiss anything AW has ever said about Yuna as racism/patriotism, making you right and your beloved Yuna the undisputed queen of the ice, free of criticism by anyone.

    Does that sum it up nicely enough?

    Jackwad.
  23. dinakt

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    I'll repeat what others are saying. Mao or Japan have NOTHING to do with the discussion.
    Please read the posts- over many years- of people you single out. Not their posts about Yu-Na, but all their posts on this boards.
    AussieWilly is a judge, and writes a lot about the intricacies of the new judging system.
    IceAlisa is extremely knowledgeable and passionate about ballet; the form matters to her and she consistently evaluates skaters based on their extension, point etc. Yu- Na is not singled out.
    Shine is passionate about experimental, artistic skating, and consistently posts about it.
    They are from three different countries VERY far apart ( none of them Japan)
    All these people have been watching skating for - probably- decades. Their opinions are based on their preference, not on anybody's Nationality. How do I know that? I read FSU, and have my own opinions, based on watching all skating, all disciplines, for a very long time and with great interest. I could name favorite skaters for all these posters, and it would not be Mao ( or not only Mao, and the nationalities of skaters would vary)
    Fans like that do not form an opinion to be pro or anti somebody, but base their opinions on their taste.
    Until this year, I was meh about Chan, despite his great abilities and achievements. He converted me this year.
    Yu-Na has great ability ( of course she is one of the greats, stupid to deny). But she is yet to convert me to be her great fan ( I like her, admire her... but I love some others). Perhaps if she goes out of her comfort zone artistically, she'll convert me, as well. And if she does not, it's OK. She's Yu-Na. She is a great skater. What does it matter if somebody does not like something? But fans of skating ( not one skater) are flexible, contrary to what you believe.
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  24. dawnie

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    We already know the Korea vs Japan thing gets out of control and crazy. I find it especially ridiculous when they attack each other by saying the other group is ugly. Sitting in the stands at 2009 Worlds, I honestly couldn't tell who was Japanese or Korean until they pulled out their little flags. :lol:
  25. Iamahugefan

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    Wow, just seeing this beautiful girl perform again has really been a breath of fresh air! If anything, her absence from figure skating has only made me understand how important she is to the sport!

    It's interesting how so many folks can be extremely catty on these boards and on YT.. at the end of the day, we still are just sitting behind on our computer screens bitching, complaining, nitpicking, and so on, while these athletes are working so incredibly hard and sacrificing so much so that.. we can!? lol. We should show some gratitude once in awhile, no?
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  26. theguitarist

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    Yep, this makes me wonder if FSU is not a carefully-planned sociological experiment conducted by some Big Brother.
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    OKAY, WHY DON'T YOU KEYBOARD WARRIORS FIGHT USING PRIVATE MESSAGES INSTEAD OF POLLUTING THIS THREAD?
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    I guess you missed all the posts in this thread where many people said they liked Yu-na's performance.
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    I think this thread has truly run its course so if to be all "ADMIN"-ish, thread closed!
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