Yuna planning on an Ice Show in LA in early October?

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  1. query5

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    iwasn't planning on it.
    but there is too much implications in this for it to be held.

    why they thought of the tour earlier, sure why didn't go through with it.

    according to articles--read --only doing it for korean people due to yuna day
    implications there.

    if she wanted to do the show -they managment company could have stated doing show in la on october 2nd for her popularity and outreach to american public--not just doing show for Yu-na Day in L.a--to much implications

    also if Yu-na wants to become U.s spokesperson she has to [put up with good, bad and ugly with the american people in u.s

    how some american people think and reach to different situations and announcments and honors is different than korean

    also yu-na isn't american citizen-so who knows how will react.
    the american public took some time to get use to katarina she skated 8 years competitively and than did it and there was still some backlash,
    katia was kinda spared due to her situation, sonja had to wait 10 years.
    yu-na seems nice, kinda a smug at time. she is doing the right things, but do we really know her no.
    how the american public treats yu-na will be different than how they treat the other american athletes.
    yu-na entered the political arena aspect of it , when she okayed and got yu-na day-yes it is an honor for her, however they is a price to it.
    what kind depends on how yu-na, agency handles it.
    the american people do know the difference between favoring and getting things for their american athletes versus non-american.
    we like other countries atheles yes-but not over our own.

    sorry to be a killjoy-but reality bites.
  2. UMBS Go Blue

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    This American likes both Yu-Na and Michelle, and likes to approach things with logic and an open mind. Many others across the world, Koreans included, do too.

    Unfortunately, with all due respect, your posts are exceptionally incomprehensible.
  3. skatingfan5

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    :huh: query5: I have no idea what you are complaining/concerned about nor in what way you think that Yu-na has designs on becoming a "U.S. spokesperson". Your posts in this thread don't make much sense at all, I'm afraid.
  4. query5

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    i wasn't expeciting most skating fans, to like or understand what i am saying.
    i apprecate and like all you reasons and ideas even yours umbs go blue.
    your opinons are noted and appreciate.

    not everyone likes or will approve of what happens and in someways might react like not going to show or letting other people know.

    yu-na show probably won't do anything here in us but be a show.
    however as far as marketablity in the U.s for her--who knows.

    some american people read into alot of things, and we prefer our athletes to get the "city days" over other countries athletes and we let people know it.
    what kind of impact from here on it who knows.

    yu-na is a lovely girl.

    her show might be a big boost, but who knows. i don't know
    should us skaters skate on show probably wouldn't hurt but help.
    but i don't know.
    probably be forgotten by april, but election time is coming up in november who knows.
  5. ponta1

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    I have no idea what it is you're trying to say.
  6. geod2

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    :confused:

    The news about Yu-Na's L.A. show is wonderful ...

    "Buzzkill" would be another good word for your incoherent (and negative?) remarks....

    :rolleyes:


    P.S. Thank you to FSU folks who keep an eye out for information on shows and sharing it...
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  7. Willowway

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    You can only be a "killjoy" if people take you seriously.

    I think Yu-na planning a U.S. show is absolutely delightful and I know she will do very well here. Quality skating is always welcome!
  8. RunnersHigh

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    The beginning of the show is not due to the Yu-Na Day.
    http://www.blazingblades.com/731301917/yuna-kim-to-skate-in-october-los-angeles-gala/
    And the show is not just for Korean people only.
    I don't know how well do you understand Korean language but try the article below or just read what I quoted.
    http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=107&oid=003&aid=0003378930
    And "Yu-na day in Los Angeles" sold tickets in advance to everyone.

    I'd been to her show every-time everywhere for 4 years. Which of the shows were all for her and all about her? :huh:

    Are you talking about Politics to whom graduated with a bachelor's degree in international studies and a minor in political science and began graduate studies in international relations at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University? It might be better for you to skate instead of M.K.

    As always, you may say "I have my own opinion blah blah... " but do NOT distort the facts.
  9. portia

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    Seeing as how skating has become somewhat of a fringe sport in the U.S., it's great that a champion skater like Yuna wants to revive public interest here again by introducing well-produced ice shows. I only see positives for shows like ATS, unlike the kind of shows Johnny jokingly (one can hope) had in mind with strippers and porn stars; I like JW but just not the combo of strippers and porn stars on ice.

    I live in L.A. and this is as good of a place as any to launch a different brand of ice shows, especially if Yuna's team promotes it well enough to generate buzz among the entertainment industry set over here. Who knows, hopefully it may lead to shows being televised nationally again.
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    Judging by the content on network television/cable, JW was (jokingly) just trying to dumb it down to what has sadly become the our cultural norm (it often seems).

    I lived in L.A. most of my life and Yu-Na's show may be my one chance to see a skating show this Fall ....Disson left the West Coast out in the cold this year if I've read all the schedules right.
    I just hope that there isn't some other big sports or entertainment event in L.A. competing with Yu-Na's that night, not that it'll stop me from going.

    :)
  11. portia

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    Well, luckily October isn't awards season in L.A., and skating would do well to be promoted as counter-programming to autumn sporting events like baseball playoffs and football. There is an untapped market here for quality, fun skating shows....if only promoters knew how to put them on and promote them, *sighs*.
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    Although Yu-Na herself will have no problem drawing a crowd in L.A., IMHO,
    if MK skates in this, much of the remaining marketing and promotion for the event will take of itself simply by her being included.
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    I hope it's a big draw and a big deal so we can get more events like this in the US, though man, it would cost so much money to put on a show like this at Staples! I seem to remember, though, that last year's Worlds had a fantastic attendance record. It was pretty darn packed when I was at a few events.
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    I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't follow query5's reasoning.

    I hope the show is wildly successful and that it heralds the resurgence of big skating shows in the US again.
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    Very interesting. Are you sure you are not fairly4 from Goldenskate? (I presume is a Japanese American?) ;)

    For some reason your attitude towards this Yuna show in the US reminded me of this joke (So Un-Pc it is so PC).

    At an International School, a conversation heard from a classroom

    Stand inTeacher:
    "For today, let's have an open minded discussion expressing your own opinions on food shortages experienced by other countries"

    African Student: "There are food??"
    European Student: "There are shortages??"
    American Student: "There are other countries??"
    Chinese student: "What is expressing own opinion??"
    Japanese student: "What is open minded??"
    Korean: "I will try my very hardest, but can you show me how first??"

    ^-^

    Sorry if it offends anyone (it probably does to everyone), but to quote your saying 'reality bites' - I am bitten by it every day! But I also laugh with it every day :)

    Apologies to the forum for make this my first post on FSU but I simply couldn't resist.

    Personally, I can't think of a better city in the US to put up an ice skating extravaganza of this magnitude. US is far more inclusive of successful foreigners than the media makes out (despite the last administration's efforts). It is the land of immigrants, particularly in LA (liberal mindset) Yuna would be right at home with her Korean supporters and the arts inclined population who's always looking for the latest trends, good times or general excellence that Yuna has came to exemplify during the Olympics.

    LA would also have the right expertise and experience to put up this type of rock concert extravaganza that could even improve upon the original version. (There are better live singers for starters)

    I would be interested to know if Yuna's going to sing and speak in English for the entire duration of this show, then you can speak about how Korean the show really is.
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  16. skatesindreams

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    This!
  17. ponta1

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    And why are you assuming that Query5/Fairly5 is Japanese American?
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    Tanith and Ben have "All That Skate L.A." listed on their schedule Oct. 2-3. :)
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    Maybe people are giving way too much attention to Query5's nonsensical post than it deserves?

    I wish I could see Ms. Yamaguchi skate live at the show. When was her last skating performance?
  20. bek

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    Are you serious? If Michelle were to skate in it Yu-na would be adored all over for just getting Michelle to skate in the US again.

    Americans happily in the past have embraced foreign athletes. Olga Korbut was adored in the US, did all kinds of tours, even met the President. And here's a little fact, by having a show here in the United States and employing American skaters, Yu-na is actually helping American skaters People like Tanith and Ben can't necessarily afford to set up their own shows. Yu-na's shows in Korea have offered a lot of skaters the opportunity to make some needed money. Now she's allowing us Americans to get to see some of these great shows, while employing our skaters. Yes it would be so much more supportive for our American athletes if they didn't have Yu-na's shows to skate in.
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  21. RunnersHigh

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    Wow!!! I loved them. I loved both "If it kills me" and "Bleeding love". :saint:
  22. os168

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    And why you assume he/she is not? Reason? Read my post + similar typing habits and grammar patterns.

    In any case, if I am wrong, I am wrong, no biggie!

    I just hope the show goes well and we can start to have more broadcasting shows again for the figure skating world.

    More money is good for the industry, and may be skaters can get better pay packet that they truly deserve, given amount of discipline and hard work they all have to put up with comparing to other sports.

    The prize money and rewards are absolutely peanuts compares to other performance sports.
  23. ponta1

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    I'm not assuming anything. I'm just replying to your assumption.

    And you seem to think I'm asking why you think Query5/Fairly5 are the same as you're talking about similar typing habits and grammar patterns. I asked why you assume they are Japanese American.
  24. os168

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    :huh: I guess you didn't get the joke about the different nationality traits.

    In any case Query/Fairly4 could be aliens and what I say doesn't change a thing or should matter all that much, when the view is clearly close minded and a bit incomprehensible despite a clear agenda to put down the show.
  25. amaro

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    While I enjoyed the Bleeding Love number, it's about time for them to move on. :)
  26. ponta1

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    Whether I got your joke is irrelevant. You seem to be purposely avoiding answering my question.
  27. os168

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    It is answered, whether you understood is another matter. In any case this is my last post on the matter, thanks for your replies.
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  28. ponta1

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    Oh no, I understood. What you're doing is stereo-typing; assuming this person is Japanese American because, according to your joke, all Japanese are close-minded.

    And this is my last post on the matter as well.
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    Well it is a bad joke that is clearly untrue - given US and Europe are amongst worlds most generous donors internationally; Yuna is an innovator that came from Korea, and Japan who brought us Nintendo and Final Fantasy series my fav toy during childhood that was a imagination mindbomb (I love it so much i got the director and producer to autograph the game).

    Anyways, sorry if i cause any offense, it was to illustrate a point. I realised I am probably far too smarmy for my own good, and fyi I came from an International school myself, so am familiar with the stereotypes, we usually laugh about it. Sorry to hijack the thread with my lame pseudo comments, please continue to discuss this amazing show soon to take place in LA all thanks to Yuna and the power of Global citizenship !!!
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  30. Tinami Amori

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    Oh please…… :lol:. This is an old “Soviet Times” joke from the times of “Glasnost” in the late 80’s. It was published in a Humor Magazine “Krokodil”.

    The original version goes like this:

    UN Conference. The House Speaker poses a question to the auditorium.

    Dear Members of the UN Counsel:
    Please! We would like to hear your most honest opinion on how to solve food shortage problems in the rest of the world.

    West Europeans: what’s “shortage”?
    Africans: what’s “food”?
    Americans: what’s “the rest of the world”?
    Arabs: what’s “honest”?
    Soviets: what’s “opinion”?
    Asians: what’s “how to solve”?
    Israelis: what’s “please”?

    I don’t know exactly how it relates to Yu-na’s show…… but it is a very funny joke….. has been for 20 years…… we still love it in our Russian community…… :D
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    Okay, lets try this all over again....

    Yuna Kim and 'All That Sport' is hosting a skating show 'All That Skate LA' at the Staple Center on Oct. 2 - 3. Regardless of who skates with her it will be one more skating event than would otherwise be held in the USA. Thanks, Yuna!
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    Thanks for getting the thread back on track Visaliakid!

    Can't wait for someone to post the ticket info soon. Ice shows never come to LA anymore so I'll definitely be going. Yes, a lot of my favorite skaters are scheduled to do the other events but getting to see Yu-Na again will be amazing!
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  33. Susan M

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    If you are asking about Query5, he or she has certainly shown closed-mindedness, wherever he or she is from.

    I think the assumption is because (1) the poster claims to be an American, (2) the word order and usage clearly identifies the poster as someone whose first language is not English, meaning he or she is (Something)-American, and (3) the poster has exhibited an irrational antagonism toward Yu-Na's LA ice show in a way that only an obsessed fan on the opposing side in the Kim-Asada wars can do. IMO, that makes Japanese-American a pretty fair guess, anyway.

    Personally, I like both these skaters but don't love either of them. I find the constant need for the fans of one to attack the other to be infantile at best and unhealthily obsessive at worst.

    A number of the assertions made in this thread are simply untrue. While Americans don't usually care about anyone else's ice princesses, historically we have embraced Olympic ladies champions from elsewhere when they are compelling enough skaters and personalities. Witt was hugely popular here. (No, American audiences were not slow to embrace her after Calgary.) After Lillehammer, Baiul was a big draw here until she got herself into trouble.

    I don't know if American audiences are that enamored of Kim, so I will be interested to see how well this show does. Because skating in general is so much less popular and visible in the US now than in 1988 or 1994, I don't know that anybody's Olympic win from Calgary garnered them as much popularity as earlier Olympics. This is why it was really smart and important for Lysacek to go directly into Dancing with the Stars to cement his celebrity.

    While I agree that the Yu-Na Kim Day was really dumb, I don't think it will have any effect, one way or the other, on ticket sales. People will buy tickets if they want to see the skaters in this show enough to spend the time and money. In the end, it always comes down to that.

    I do wonder what they were thinking, though, when they picked the dates, with so many skaters already committed to other shows on/around those dates. I think it would really help sales if she can get Kwan to skate in this show (not to mention being a treat for her US fans). It has been years since Kwan has performed live in the US.
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    You're being too kind....


    :confused: Who cares what somebody celebrates?
    Very close to appearing to participate in the "unhealthy" activities you've listed above?
    I don't think it was your intention to, though.
    This horse has been beaten very very dead on this thread and elsewhere....somebody call a veterinary (or the Admins) to make it official, please!


    Generallly true, but L.A. could be the exception to this due to 2009 Worlds and this:

    "Los Angeles, with its Koreatown district, is home to the largest population of ethnic Koreans outside of Asia."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_American


    Yep!

    With 7 weeks to go and no ticket sales announcement, it is concerning. Staples website makes no mention of it.
    Let's hope that Yu-na's handlers know what they're doing.
    ITA about MK.
    In an earlier post Bek gave some very good rationale for others skaters to jump onboard this show if invited to do so, but travel and scheduling conflicts has its limits....
    I would think that if we don't see ticket sales announcement in the next week, a postponement may be next....just an educated guess.
    Or maybe just a "one night only" performance...
    We're all keeping our fingers crossed....
    :)
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  35. Willowway

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    I was thinking about the timeline too.

    Perhaps they expect the same reaction here that they have experienced in Korea - instant sell out. It could happen but it is certainly not the given it is in Seoul.

    While Yu-na is a very experienced, champion skater, her mom and their company are not experienced producers and may not have as realistic a view of the U.S. market as they might. There is a VP that came over from IB Productions but even he probably has no producing experience outside of Korea.

    All That Sports was not intending to announce the cast until mid-Sept for a date less than three weeks later. In the U.S. that's not the usual but they may feel that a combination of the skating market for Yu-na and the Korean market in LA will fill up the Staples Center in a wink for the two performances (Oct. 2 and 3) they have mentioned. A two performance complete sell-out at the Staples Center with a hockey seating layout is 36,000 people; 14,000-15,000 sold per show would be a great crowd and probably closer to the right number with a tunnel or stage area taking some of the seating. They are also used to a larger seating capacity in Seoul so it might not seem like a great challenge to the producers.

    As far as skaters in other shows that weekend - if it's Yu-na and MK (and we don't know that), there may not be any contest. I of course would love to see Ilia as part of the group and if so, I'd be there in a flash, even though it means flying from the East Coast.

    Overall though, the timing is sure a calculated risk but they may not see it that way.
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    I agree. The Staples Center is a big venue. I was there for the SOI show couple times, and it was pretty empty.

    They may sell the tickets, but that doesn't mean that the seats will be filled. Local Korean businesses (and Chinese if Kwan skates in this show) will probably buy bunch of tickets to give out to their customers. Also Yuna's fans may fly from Korea to attend this show.
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    I agree that a lot of her fans would love to come. But 1) do thousands of fans have that kind of money? It's an expensive trip 2) do those fans also have visas to enter the U.S. because coming from Korea to the U.S. you need one and it takes a little time to get one through the U.S. Embassy in Korea so one can't make a last-minute decision to go.

    She does have thousands of fans here and in Canada and those, most likely, are the people who will fill a lot of seats. But I agree that huge blocks of seats sold to Korean businesses will undoubtedly be a major part of the audience.
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    I assume that most of the people posting did not attend Worlds in LA. The ladies events were packed, with very large contingents of Koreans and Korean-Americans. One of the local banks was passing out Korean flags to attendees. Koreatown is 2 miles from Staples Center.

    I don't think there is any question that the show will be successful.
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    I went to Worlds last year and it was fun to see and be a part of such great attendance for a FS event in the city where I was born and grew up.

    Being realistic, some potential challenges have been mentioned on this thread for Yu-Na's show to be successful. If I remember correctly she is fulfilling a pledge she made to return to L.A. for a show...
    ....I don't recall that she made it contingent on the show being successful from any particular point of view. Good for her!!!
    I'm very sure that, even if it has to be postponed, this show will happen.

    I wonder if Yu-Na's commitment to an L.A. show is why Disson skipped the West Coast this year....


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    See the thing is though based on previous posts I always thought query was way more of a Zhang uber than she was either an Asada uber or a Yu-na uber.

    I don't think its really fair to automatically assume that any irrational criticism of Yu-na is automatically because of Japanese/Asada ubers or any irrational criticism of Asada is automatically due to Korean/Yu-na ubers. There are people perfectly capable of not liking both Mao and Yu-na or not being on either team. I mean I could understand wondering that, but I suspect if you remember/read more than just one of query's posts, that people's first guess wouldn't be that query is Japanese. Not that it matters what she/he is.
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