Your most favorite programs with awesomely "questionable" music/choreography

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  1. satchelpooch318

    satchelpooch318 New Member

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    I asked this question a number of years ago and got some great responses...now I'm hoping to learn about even more of these awesomely "questionable" programs now that the off-season is upon us. What are some "questionable" programs that you love to watch? Here are a few of mine:

    Brian Boitano, 1983 Worlds LP:
    http://youtu.be/JPzIPkYG8jk
    Gorgeous 3Axel + muzak "For Your Eyes Only" = :swoon: :swoon: :swoon:

    Claudia Leistner, 1989 Worlds Exhibition:
    http://youtu.be/430VNH3Ao0U
    I love me some Irene Cara!

    Ludmila Nelidina, 2002 Skate America LP:
    http://youtu.be/ZsUAJLe16RM
    Her forward camel spin will forever fascinate me...

    Meno and Sand, 1995 Worlds SP:
    http://youtu.be/ZpE2etPiMa0
    A truly avant-garde music cut of "Blue Danube"

    Schwarz and Müller, 1999 Worlds LP:
    http://youtu.be/RoevkgvJPZw
    Just say "NO" to domestic violence
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    :lol: Thanks for your contributions, satchelpooch318.

    I think Leistner's costume was "questionable" as well. In any case, maybe her performance to this Irene Cara "classic" might have worked with better choreography? It seems like Claudia was thrilled to have won the silver medal -- she couldn't remove the smile from her face.

    Gosh, the music choices for Brian B's program are so awful and dated, yet wow, his performance is so technically great ... better than a lot of men skating today! Brian did go on to make better music selections and to develop his artistic side. :)

    Ludmila's music was not helped by the fact that she was not a good free skater.

    Agree that Jenni and Todd may have benefited by a different version of this sp music, yet OTOH, they made it work. I've always loved their skating. Their famous headbanger dismount on that overhead lift is quite spectacular. I wonder how they practiced it to make it safe? 1995 Worlds in Birmingham, England was quite memorable -- Todd and Jenni won their second World bronze. Their fp was stellar -- they also appeared on the cover of Dance magazine in reference to their fp that season:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x14mYVPj3VY&feature=related

    Schwarz & Muller :cool: I love their quirky and distinctive German style.

    My obvious pick (discussed quite often on FSU):

    Johnny Weir's Maxim Mvirca fp 2006
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytbTMJN24QQ

    barbk, I think Michelle's Miraculous Mandarin music selection and choreo, while criticized at the time, has since become widely admired and appreciated by skating fans.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWarys9kuzM

    ETA: Sorry for the poor quality video of MK's MM performance. She never had an opportunity to refine and polish that program, since they ditched it after the criticism. Perhaps she was trying to venture out of her comfort zone and try something different. Looking at this again, I don't think the music suited her style of skating, especially not for a competitive program. In any case, they were trying something different partly b/c she needed a second fp for the GPF.
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  4. skatesindreams

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    It always bothered me that she was forced to "ditch" this program; apparently because the judges didn't respond to it.
    Or, did they not understand the music/choreography?
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    While never a Micelle Kwan fan myself, I loved this program. Definitely my fave of hers and it's a shame she didn't get to use it.
  7. satchelpooch318

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    My most fave "questionable" program from MK is her Tosca from 2004 Worlds -- such utter passion and intensity, an awesome bitch-face thru-out the majority of the program, and all without any semblance of significant choreography whatsoever. :cheer:
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    ^^ Ha ha, Michelle was indeed determined. To me, she was like "OK, so its the 'jumps' you prefer to reward, well here they are!" (judges and media during that time were all more focused on ladies upping the technical ante). MK started working with Rafael and stripped down her programs, and yes, her critics were never satisfied.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWQSoIEAxns

    That look in Kwan's eyes at the beginning of her program, speaks volumes.

    Kwan's attitude in her Tosca performance, reminds me of Denzel's performance in Training Day, after lots of people had criticized the film, Hurricane, in which he portrayed convict, Ruben 'Hurricane' Carter. Critics said, "Denzel is too much of a good guy to portray a bad guy." Denzel gave them the finger with his Oscar-winning performance as corrupt police detective, Alonzo Harris, in Training Day. The performance shouted, "You want a bad guy. I'll give you a baaaad guy!"
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    I kind of like Leistner. Hard to believe she was only 23 here. She dresses and emotes like a Coffee Club skating mom.
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    I feel like people questioned Adrian Schultheiss portraying an escaped mental patient.
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    :slinkawayAlexei Urmanov wore this costume before Johnny's "Camille" or "Blades of Glory". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbpiSkvcWXg

    I remember that Scott Hamilton sputtered "but that's a woman's role!".

    His skating to the music from Swan Lake didn't bother me as much as it did Scott, but the costume got distracting after awhile. Also the music cuts started getting bizarre.

    Full disclosure: I too, have had some skating moments that have provoked an unintended laugh. :slinkaway:
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  12. leapfrogonice

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    LOL, so true. And yet she become quite successful in her time. Having triple jumps got her far.:lol:
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    It wasn't an ISU event, but I think the most awesomely questionable music ever for ice skating has to be the program Torvill & Dean did with no music at all.
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    Is THIS the program?
    http://youtu.be/CzDWsec4N2U

    OMG -- the twitching, the straight jacket, Cypress Hill's "Insane in the Brain" + music from the Pac-Man video game + Prodigy's "Smack My Bitch Up" -- this program is even nuttier than Laetitia Hubert's iconic "Hooker on Crack"! I never dreamed that was even possible...
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    That Adrian Schultheiss program has got to be one of the voidiest gems ever....
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    ^^ Wow, thanks for posting. I'd never seen that before. Creativity times infinity! And now I see that Gwendal and Marina were not the first to do the reverse lift like I thought. :)
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    Yes! It is great!
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    satchelpooch318 New Member

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    You're most welcome!
    I've watched that program dozens of times, and find something new to appreciate with each viewing.
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    And now for something entirely different... (than T/D's Oscar Tango):

    Shiganshina & Gazsi's Cirque Short Dance from 2010/2011.
    AKA the "balloon skirt and farmer w/ crazy socks program" to the music with the seemingly random baby talk / fun house vocals an:rofl:d laughter.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0PU4s1HE9M

    Definitely can't leave this program out of any discussion of voidy / questionable programs.
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    Jenny, I don't know why the original links are blocked for you.
    They still work for me, in the US.
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    This is amazing... I give credit to Taso for introducing this to me.

    This girl is 12 and portraying a crazed exotic dancer.... and she is actually really good. I wonder whatever happened to her. Sylvia?

    Joanna Ng 1990 Skate Canada
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TlDBuOkNfvo#t=173s (this is where the program starts; go to the beginning to see a long fluff piece with Frank Carroll).
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    Oh no they didn't! My all time Fred & Ginger number (Night and Day) turned into a polka :wall::wall:
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    Wow, that was fabulous , and very :eek: at the same time. And people thought Carroll was pushing it with Kwan's Salome :rofl:. A voidy theme coming from an early 1990s American ladies skater, who would have thunk?
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    Anyone have a link to the "Hooker on Crack?" I looked for it on youtube but can't find it. I searched "laetitia hubert hooker on crack" lol.
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    Search by Laetitia Hubert hooker and you should get her Trophies Lalique performance of it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJgL8Clf_h0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
    Not sure if this link will work for you cause I you tubed it from my iPhone.. You should find it easily though. Enjoy!
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    In regards to Joanna Ng, she had only middling sucess in senior nationals then went to Taiwan to represent them and I think went to Senior Worlds. She was 2nd at Junior Worlds and second in both Novice and Junior, I believe in the US, but was much higher than 11 or 12 in Senior. She has an extensive professional career. She was Pocahontas on Disney on Ice and a bunch of other things. Now I think she choreographs for cruise ships and other tours.
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    ^^ Thanks for the update on what happened to Joanna Ng during and after her competitive career!
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    I'll never call Frank or USFSA fuddy duddy again! Who choreographed Ng's program - did she do it herself?
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    ^^ At the age of 12, I would be surprised if Ng choreographed it herself. Quite interesting all the richness and forgotten facts/ performances from figure skating's past.

    I wonder if Kwan was inspired by Ng to take her senior test early (w/o Frank's knowledge) and debut at Senior Nationals at the age of 12?
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    I was super confused about the content of her program. She only did two jumps. Was it a long program? Or some sort of exhibition program? She went to the kiss and cry so I assume it was a long program. She did about fifty spins. I don't recall her ever being able to do much more than a triple toe even in practice her entire career.

    NVM-early in her career she tried a decent flip, an okay toe and a good sal nd toe out of footwork at the Olympic Festival the next year. I think she was mostly overshadowed and between by Lisa Ervin and by the end of her career puberty hit her and toe was all she had.
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  40. caseyedwards

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    I was confused and it was Special Interpretive competition associated w/skate canada 1990