X factor USA Season 2

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  1. tarotx

    tarotx Well-Known Member

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    Anyone else Watching?
  2. my little pony

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    they spend a lot of time doing not so much, only one audition so far

    i wouldnt have turned my chair for girl #1's voice alone but she was really cute
  3. tarotx

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    That's probably why Page didn't go to The Voice (though maybe she did and didn't make it past the producers...) She won't get by with just her voice. Maybe they think she might be good in a good group.
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    Even though I vowed I wouldn't watch again after last season's horrible run, I just love snarky Simon so will tune in again and hope for much better production, and TALENT, this year. Tonight was okay. Loved how they played up the blonde bytch thinking she had so much talent, and you just knew come sing time she would suck big time. heh heh heh, I love it when they do that stuff to people like that. :EVILLE: The trio of the 3 boys was catchy and will definitely get the heartthrob vote (and again loved how they played up the "I was in a boy band and toured all over Europe" dude who sucked). What I never get is how the people who are really REALLY bad are the ones who throw the most outrageous tantrums. De Nile ain't just a river in Egypt and I can't believe how people act knowing that this is gonna like .. be on television in front of millions of viewers! First, I don't see how their friends and family don't just flat out tell them "you can't sing don't embarrass yourself!", but then to act the way they do .... I'll never understand wanting to be on TV so bad you would want to humiliate yourself like that forever (YouTube never dies).

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  5. orbitz

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    I heard Demi Lavato "sang" live on the Today show. Ugh. She and Britney Spears are going to be judging other singers? :scream:
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    I've never understood this type of criticism. I'm not a fan of either of these girls, but why shouldn't they judge? It's not a competition to find the best singer. It's a competition to find a star performer. The two don't go necessarily go hand in hand. I can look back on any decade and point out many popular performers that have questionable singing skills. I can also find many talented singers that have had marginal success because they weren't necessarily great performers.

    For the record, I ended up sticking with The Voice. I flipped back and forth for a while, but I was drawn more to The Voice. Not sure if there's a real difference between the shows, but for me there is. What, I don't know.
  7. Aceon6

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    Well, I don't think they're on the same nights starting next week, but I'm planning on watching The Voice live and DVRing X Factor for fast forward viewing over the weekend. I don't want to sit through the bad auditions.
  8. taf2002

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    I watched my DVR copy & I'm confused. I saw young skinny guy sing 1st & Simon told him he was terrible & he got 4 noes. Then crying girl came on & they took 30 mins with her backstory (which I thought was made up - she wasn't fat, she wasn't ugly, she apparently has lots of friends, what was there to bully her about?), then she sang (just ok), then she cried some more, then they gushed over her & gave her 4 yeses. Then they showed people who had gotten through but didn't actually let us hear their voices. Then the 2 hours were up. That was the worst audition show I've ever seen. This was my 1st time of watching. It will probably be my last.
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    I only saw a little part of the show, but I feel like Emblem 3 are trying to pitch themselves as the Avril Lavigne to One Direction's Britney Spears circa 2002. :shuffle: So silly. Candygirl man and Britney's old duet partner were also painful to watch. :scream:
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  10. my little pony

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    that chubby illegitimate son of liza minnelli and liberace made my night
  11. Rob

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    I watched my tape. I liked Page and the Ooh la la girl.

    Candygirl man started out weird and went totally perv the minute he started describing his song. I understand why Britney would feel uncomfortable with him looking at her nevermind his singing.

    I wonder what happened to the guy who used to record with her. If he ever had a good voice, he ruined it somehow.

    The mini-bieber was forcing his voice way too much. And I hate age inappropriate songs. He's 13, he looks like he's 9, don't sing about love and sex.

    I thought it was quite amazing that the bullied girl could sing at all while so emotional. She's not the winner type though.
  12. moebius

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    So far the 13yr. old jazz girl is the best. This show is worse than Idol. The conversation between the selected contestants and their family/friends backstage looks very scripted to the point that it looks so fake. The talent pool is not very deep. Wouldn't it be weird if the over 30's group (if it exists this season) or older contestants were mentored by Demi Lovato?

    It also seems that the focus is on the younger demographics. I don't see too many older contestants going through so far. Either that or not many older contestants are trying out after seeing last season.
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  13. halffull

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    That young girl was amazing ... hope they find a lot more talent this week :)
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    She has talent but I thought there was a lot wrong with her audition. For one thing, you don't belt out a Nina Simone song - it's ridiculous. There was absolutely no soul in her rendition. And she sounded really untrained to me.
  15. tarotx

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    Carly is decidedly not untrained. More like a plant. She's a New York theater kid.
    http://carlysonenclar.com/

    To me it seems like they are probably only showing the good contestants that will be highlighted in Bootcamp or maybe even the ones that made it out of Bootcamp.

    They are showing too many bad ones making it seem like the talent pool was dead this season. I personally watched/listened to a lot of the video/audio and there was a lot of talent and potential stars. Thank god only 2 more weeks of auditions and then this show got better last season and depending on how much of a reality tv aspect they show, it should get better this season. There was a lot of talent at Bootcamp.
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    I think I was impressed with Carly because no one else they've shown has been very good. Some not bad, she just stood out as the best so far. I don't think that's saying a lot though. That's why I added "I hope they find a lot more talent this week" ;) So far there isn't much that's impressive.

    Anyone know how long the auditions last before they hit boot camp?
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    http://www.thexfactorusa.com/about

    Auditions: Septemeber 12-27

    Bootcamp: October 3-10

    Judges house: October 11-17

    Live shows: November 1st-December 13th

    Final/finale: December 19-20th
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  18. Ziggy

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    So a year on and correct me if I am wrong but nobody who took part last year made it in the music industry.

    Rachel Crow seemed destined to success, especially with all the DESTROYER OF CHILDREN'S DREAMS business. But both her debut EP and her single "Mean Girls" failed to chart (not surprising given how terrible they were).

    Melanie Amaro's single is out on the 18th and given how mediocre the song is, I am betting it's gonna meet the same fate. :p
  19. halffull

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    Thanks tarotx :)
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    Thank you for this. I agree- it did nothing for me. My roommate was freaking out and I was just like :shuffle: I never like when people pick that song, its not a bad song its just overdone and never comes across as genuine. Of course she is good for 13, but I am not looking forward to seeing more of her, I am going to find her more irksome than Rachel I think. :blah:
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    I've seen Carly in many professional theatre productions. I know people who have worked with her in NY. She's not going to be irksome...she's always been praised for her maturity/adult-like qualities.
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    no one in the history of our species as been as irksome as rachel
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    I forgot about the girl who had been bullied in high school. She cried during her song. I thought she wasn't too bad either.
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  24. Ziggy

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    I've just watched all of the auditions so far.

    And now I feel really abused. It's just painful. The show is very entertaining but the way they objectify and exploit people is just beyond disgusting.

    Whilst half the auditions are showcasing people who are good at singing and performing, the other half go out of their way to make people look like shit.

    When it's somebody like Lexa Berman, you can say that's what she deserved. I mean her attitude was just awful. Funnily enough in her case, the judges were actually quite sympathetic and gave her constructive criticism.

    But then there were cases of exploiting clearly deranged people for ratings. Which I guess shouldn't surprise me because that's what X-Factor auditions essentially are but it felt particularly bad this time.

    I mean if it's somebody like Quatrele, that is fine. He's not a great singer but he was funny and put on an entertaining show.

    Kaci Newton and Vincent Thomas were clearly edited to make them look terrible. And I don't think they are. Vincent seemed really nervous and insecure and talking about his past boyband success was a way to boost his mood. And well he actually recorded and performed with a band that achieved (modest) international success which is something very few people can say.

    Shan Armenta is obviously very deluded. Here at least Demi tried to be nice but I'd guess even the most constructive criticism wouldn't help as he seems very detached from reality.

    Don Phillip is clearly not with it. He seems very emotionally disturbed, the strange rasp to his voice screams substance abuse and if it's true that they forced him to admit he's gay on the show, totally throwing him off balance as he wasn't out, it's just revolting.

    Patrick Ford - obviously clearly disturbed. And Britney was a total bitch and looked constipated throughout when she could have just smiled, thanked for the flowers and said that she appreciates everything but it's not really right for him blah blah blah.

    There were some very good performances too but all the above left a really bitter taste in my mouth.
  25. Rob

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    Rachel is still doing acting parts on Nick from time to time. She might be better off in the acting business than in the music business.
  26. my little pony

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    no one in the world is as talented as leopard face thinks she is
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    Is there anything about this that is not totally and completely set up? This Kesha wanna be who started singing a horrible rendition of the Ghost song is now suddenly vamping it up and doing well to Aguilera? This woman was cast, you can't convince me otherwise.
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    the banter betw contestants sounds very very scripted and then badly acted by the planted contestants
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    Yes, it was just as obvious as the sketch at the beginning of the show between L.A. Reid, Demi and Britney. I'm sure that conversation was totally and completely real. :rolleyes: It just makes me question each and every person who walks on stage and I can't get invested in anyone if I don't think they are real. The entire point, for me, is to see a REAL person with REAL talent go on to be a star. I don't care to see a scripted show where a contestant who was hand picked wins....as scripted.
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    Ugh, just switched over from the voice, and it feels from substance to going to the shallow end of a wading pool. So much arrogance, and b/s. Yargh
  31. rfisher

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    My first watching as well. The talent pool is probably equal to the Voice, but X-factor has none of the chemistry or humor. No contestants get to the judging stage without some talent. They aren't going for the "isn't this funny...let's humiliate this person." And while Xtina may dress more slutty than Brit, she looks better. Brittany looks rough.
  32. tarotx

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    It's Britney and she did look rough in San Francisco.
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    Panda was interesting. And the last girl.
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    I think the judging panel is really brilliant.

    Demi is quite eloquent and funny, Britney is being a total bitch. :D

    And I boycott The Voice because it pretends to be an "authentic", "non-gimmick" talent show whilst based on a huge gimmick of spinning chairs (plus battle rounds in a boxing ring...) and pretends it's all about the voice where the music industry is anything but. :p
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    Her eyes are completely hollow. It seems doubtful anyone is in there ;)
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    That Panda lady cracked me up. I'm glad she ended up having a decent voice and wasn't there for ridicule. You could tell Simon was still cranky when he came back after missing a round due to being sick. Loved all the snarkiness from him. :lol:
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    Out of all the auditions so far, Carly Rose Sonenclar is definitely the outstanding one.

    It's just incredible how amazing this girl is.

    She just has the whole package.

    Vocally, she's absolutely outstanding. But not just in technical terms. You can see she feels and understands the music. All of which is just incredible given her age.

    She is very confident but not arrogant. She knows she's good but she's also humble and seems well mannered.

    Amazing.
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    Loved her, but my money is on Jennel Garcia winning the whole thing. Great out of the box audition. Ditto Willie Johes.

    Can't wait to see how they do. :cheer2:
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    The X-factor judging panel is brilliant? I thought Simon was good at finding talent on the 1st few years of AI but he's so arrogant & pretentious now that he's unsufferable. The other 3 have nothing useful to say IMO. And they spend so much time on background & judges' interviews before they sing & then they waste time after they sing, that it's boring, esp on contestants who don't even move on to the next round.

    I never got the feeling that The Voice was being promoted on the fact that there are no gimmicks & I've never heard anyone connected to the show pretend to be authenic. I love the spinning chairs. I'm not crazy about the battle rounds so I hope they are planning something different this year to whittle the teams down.

    Neither show has been that great on finding true commercial talent so far but I find The Voice entertaining & at least the judges are megastars who know what they are talking about. Britney is the only megastar on X-Factor but she is such an airhead that she should sing & never talk.
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  40. BaileyCatts

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    They showed too much filler and not enough of people singing during Boot Camp that I'm not even sure who is still around anymore.

    But this I do know .... hate hate hate HATE that damn beyoth Cece. What the hell is that crap all over her face? Does she really think that looks attractive? Loved how she stood up there and totally lied about the other girl picking the song when Beyotch forced it on her. Man I hope she ends up getting cut after her snotty remark about how she should advance because she didn't forget her words. If she ends up making the live shows, I may have to quit watching.