Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by haribobo, Apr 7, 2012.
my choice : Chan, Abbott, Kozuka
Chan, Takahashi & Joubert.
I wish it would be: Abbott, Kozuka, Takahashi, but I have a feeling it will end up being: Chan, Takahashi, Amodio.
I expect Abbott and Kozuka will suffer from lower PCS due to their disappointments at Worlds, no matter how they skate.
Can I have different skaters (whom I like too) who did not medal at Worlds medal at this event? If so, they are Kozuka, Brian and Jeremy (in no particular order).
Is this the official entries already?
The best part is that most of these guys are completely unpredictable. Of course what we can predict is that Chan will be on the podium, most likely he will win. The rest is an open case. Takahashi is my guess and then we have Kozuka, Joubert, Amodio. I somehow don't believe in Abbott.
My favorite is Jeremy Abbott. But my vote goes to the same skaters as yours.
Who was it that voted for Bacchini or Bush finishing on the podium? lol
The same person who voted for Maé Bérénice Méité in the Ladies' poll.
And, yes, he has a wonderful sense of humor.
Chan, Takahashi, Kozuka
poor Voronov has no votes
I picked the same.
I picked Chan (is there anyone that did not?), Takahashi (I still believe he is hit or miss) and Joubert (more for sentimental reasons than anything else).
Even though this is kind of a meaningless competition after worlds (at least to me), Jeremy has a great chance to redeem himself here. The skater he is likely to replace on the podium is Joubert, but he is capable of beating Takahashi too. He could beat Chan only if he skated two perfect programs and Chan had at least 6 mistakes total (SP+LP).
I picked Chan, Takahashi and Kozuka.
(love Abbott, but it's the end of the season, and he's never his best so late)
Chan, Takahashi, and Joubert, the first two almost a sure bet and probably Joubert in 3rd or even 2nd the way things have been going lately. If not Joubert, then Amodio but hopefully Joubert!
I think Chan, Takahashi, and Abbott. Abbott is due for another good competition and skating well he will easily beat Joubert and Kozuka (even if Kozuka himself has a better competition) and has capability to beat Takahashi as well.
My wish, Chan, Joubert and an unknown. Now that'd be AWESOME podium!
Here's hoping that Patrick has a marvelous skate at WT and breaks his own records . I sure do hope those of us in Canada will have some sort of "feed" to watch.
Considering Chan's record scores were set at Canadian Nationals when skating his best, the only place he has any hope to ever touch those scores again is Canadian Nationals.
If he skates at the same level anywhere as his National, he wouldn't need to be at home to have those scores.
You are delusional (not that this wasnt already evident about you) if you think ANY skater would receive the same scores as they do at their Nationals for the exact same performances, especialy at Canadians which have doled out a ridiculous 135 for Dube & Davison, 144 for Rochette, and numerous other absurd scores. I wont even bother getting into Chan's comical scores at Nationals over the years, especialy in 2009 and 2010 when he wasnt even the Worlds top skater yet.
Since the ISU doesn't recognize Nationals scores, wouldn't his records be from Worlds 2011?
^Good question, Proustable.
I think it will be Jeremy - Patrick - Brian.
He's not going anyway. He has an injury.
Kovtun is going instead now. More His Oilyness Kiss N' Cry action to look forward to now
so for Mororov in WTT
has I/K, Leonova, Amodio, C/L and Kovtun now
his Oilyness but maybe Leonova will rub her make up on his other cheek this time
Yes and from what I have seen he is very handsy with Kovtun. Should be interesting...
I voted for Patrick, Dai and Brian. But would not be suprised if Jeremy or Florent medal.
Chan, Takahashi, Amodio!
I voted for Abbott because he won't feel the pressure of the World Championships
That's what I was thinking. I believe that if Jeremy can finally skate to his full potential, he can overcome Patrick ......
( if Patrick assists him with a fall or 2. )
Now as for Daisuke, .... I'm not so sure.
It's a nice thought, but you have way more faith in the judging system than I do.
1.) That's a big IF
2.) Never going to happen
Jeremy is done as far as ever hoping for a World or Olympic Gold. He'll never beat Chan and not Hanyu or Takahashi if they skate well, even if he's perfect. So he has a slim chance of maybe getting a silver or bronze at Worlds/Olympics if he even makes it there, and those chances are very slim, honestly. Sadly I think Jeremy will retire having never won a World or Olympic medal...
Nope, I wasn't delusional. It's more like someone's hatred has blind their judgement (not that this wasn't already evident from you).
Chan's 2011 World, SP 93, LP 188
Chan's 2012 National, SP 101, LP 201
The difference for SP = 8 higher, LP = 13 higher at National
Chan's National LP was perfect. He had a step out of his 3A in his LP at World's. I'm taking a guess, 4 points difference there. At his National, he also changed his 4T+3T to 4T+2T, and then added a 3T combo at the 2nd half of his program, meaning he added additional bonus there (1-2 bonus?). With better CH, much improved artistry, better arm movements, stronger edges and speed, 4-6 points higher than last year is possible. So yes, if he skates as good as his Nationals, he will get the similar score else where.
So now Chan has much better artistry, speed, and choreography than he had last year.
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I wouldn't say much better, but I do think he's improved his speed, that Aranjuez is a better piece of choreography than POTO and that he has stronger interpretative sense now. Is that a ridiculous point of view?
No that is reasonable. Jettasian as always was way over the top though.
Chan, Takahashi and Abbott, but I would love to see Kozuka rebound from his showing at worlds.
Yes, Chan has improved a lot in those areas. I'm glad the judges see them.
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