With a loud Jodel: German skating news

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  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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  3. DORISPULASKI

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    It's very hard on a team. I recall Shantelle Jordan & Jeremy Barrett, US Jr. Champions, had that problem. They could not compete on either the Sr or Jr Grand Prix. They ended up competing and winning the French National Championship one year, looking for a place other than US Nationals to compete.
     
  4. Jeschke

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    yes, but this was in the 2004/2005 season, they started at us nationals too, came in 10th. so they were able to start at seniors, or?
    but question is: can prölßs/blommaert start at b-internationals at seniors? or isn´t that allowed?
     
  5. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    Jordan/Barrett never competed internationally for the U.S. (besides being invited to French Nationals once and North American Challenge Skate summer invitationals that had no age limits).

    Annabelle PRÖLSS will be 14 in March 2013 so she would be old enough for Senior B internationals in 2013-14. The ISU minimum senior age rule (15 for Senior GP/Senior Bs) is supposed to start in 2014-15.
     
  6. Jeschke

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    thanks for that.
    understand. so they could do b-seniors but no grand prix (wouldn´t been invited though) and championships? thanks for your answer sylvia
     
  7. DORISPULASKI

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    thanks for info Sylvia-I was not trying to imply Jordan & Barrett competed for any group other than themselves, only that entering French Nationals was an interesting solution to limited competitions due to be illegal to compete either senior or junior.
     
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    very happy for hoffmann, too.

    yeah, hecken and hoffmann still have to fight for their tes for worlds.
     
  10. Jeschke

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    very interessting that hoffmann, with the least international reputation got the highest components score.
    but i like to see that.

    she has gone too really hard times, years ago with gorgeous triple lutz and afterwards seemed to lost most of her jumps. seeing her this season back on track is really great. i wish, i could say the same about isabel drescher.
     
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    german press already reports, if weinzierl not finishes top10 at euros, it´s propable that hecken will travel to euros.
    aaaarh.
    hecken was far mor incosistent than weinzierl this season and would herself not be able to finish top 10 at euros to be fair.

    3xrussia, 2x italy, 2x sweden, korpi, gedevanishvili, FRA entry

    i (sadly) cannot see weinzierl (and above all) and hecken neither crash into top 10 without the other girls making big mistakes.
     
  12. sandra_persch

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    I really think the German Fed should send Weinzierl to Junior Worlds in order to gain maximum possible spots for the JGPs and JW for next saison.
     
  13. Jeschke

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    yes, that´s absolutely my thought. but shouldn´t her be given the worlds spot too?
    she really deserved it this season and who knows how many possibilities there are for her. next season is evry important and would be good for her to show herself to the judges and maybe get 1 grand prix.

    otherwise (imho) hecken starts again with an advantage in next saison, not fair for me.

    and please don´t get me wrong, i really like hecken and her program this season, but weinzierl was far more consistent and has more technical quality in her programs.
     
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    German press release: interessting to see, with whom tanja kolbe is skating in zagreb :D

    Das DEU-Team für Zagreb:

    Damen: Nathalie Weinzierl
    Herren: Peter Liebers
    Eistanz: Nelli Zigantschina/Alexander Gazsi, Tanja Kolbe/Enrico Caruso
    Paarlauf: Aljona Savchenko/Robin Szolkowy, Mari Vartmann//Aaron van Cleave, Maylin Hausch/Daniel Wende
     
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    FANTASTIC. We'll have live singing from ENRICO :))
     
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    They should be able to do Senior B's but no ISU Championships. If I remember correctly the age changes don't kick in until after the 2013 / 2014 season
     
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    http://www.sport.de/medien/wintermi...vchenko-szolkowy-respekt-vor-nachfolgern.html

    http://www.sport1.de/de/wintersport/win_eiskunstlauf/newspage_655154.html

    2 german press releases.

    - savchenko is ill again, got again the flue she had before TEB; she tries to get healthy withput antiotics
    - german government holds on in not willing to pay steuer, who seems to be in trouble, after s/s retire (working for other nations seem posible)
    - steuer and savchenko give compliments to prölß/blommaert; steuer mentioned the pair would fit well in s/s style (he praises the work which is done in oberstdorf with them)
    - decision is made: if weinzierl not finishes top 10, hecken will travel to worlds
    (the coach of both of them said: sport is no democracy) --- i just can repeat myself, this is not fair, send sarah to euros, she will not finish top10 either

    - second article mentioned, zhiganshina is close to get her german passport. it should happen in febr/march, so she will eb able to skate in sotchi fpr germany.

    btw. caruso has no german citizenship, or? vancleave`?
     
  19. Jeschke

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    :D thanks for that, their sd is online too

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaI3DJQ5f68

    not the biggest fan of the sd, seemed a little bit slow at the beginning and i was just distracted by her skirt, it´s almost everywhere :D

    i enjoyed their fd much more despite the strange music compilation (and the costumes were awful)

    but great to see that next year (with koch/nüchtern) germany will have 3 great dance teams of which 1 unfortunately has to stay at home at international championships, but nice development.

    btw: nice to see some audience in hamburg
     
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    as far as I know they don't have them yet, but I think I read somewhere that Van Cleave had a German grandfather, though i am not sure how much that would help in getting a passport.

    on another note .... I really hope Weinzierl can show what she's got at Euros! She is listed on the entry list for Junior Nationals too, so I guess she is serious about going for the ticket to Junior Worlds too.

    The German Fed is probably wanting to spread the spots around, but if Weinzierl can show what she can, she might be able to get very close to the Top 10 at Euros and I am still hoping for a miracle ;) She has gone through so many injury's in the past and after switching to Szcypa she just seems to have improved so much!
     
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    Ice Dance - Short Dance

    Beatris Katrin Tomchak-Egor Koshcheev SD
    http://youtu.be/8s7_kgINuDM

    Katharina Muller-Justin Gerke SD
    http://youtu.be/xgnWqc06kRA

    Kavita Lorenz-Ievgen Kholoniuk SD
    http://youtu.be/sclx-6sJV1s

    Tanja Kolbe – Stefano Caruso – SD
    http://youtu.be/HaI3DJQ5f68

    Nelli Zhiganshina-Alexander Gazsi SD
    http://youtu.be/zDg8AAsgzkc

    Ice Dance - Free Dance

    Beatris Katrin Tomchak - Egor Koshcheev FD
    http://youtu.be/4-Fu6E6Dw7s

    Katharina Muller - Justin Gerke FD
    http://youtu.be/raTjqMQjmYk

    Kavita Lorenz - Ievgen Kholoniuk FD
    http://youtu.be/B9RZ6HbNGyU

    Tanja Kolbe – Stefano Caruso – FD
    http://youtu.be/tNyv15dsa6g

    Nelli Zhiganshina - Alexander Gazsi FD
    http://youtu.be/Sb8h0qCWpBY
     
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    thanks for the links.
    again new lifts for z/g? how many different versions have they skated this season until now? :D

    to the 2 new pairs.

    tomchak/kosheev are hard to watch, sorry. there are miles between these to skaters. was she a single skater? she doesn´t seem like an ice dancer, he is so much better than her. am i totally wrong or was his skating with yankovskaya?

    lorenz/kholoniuk seemed to have great potential. he is really great and she (to admit, never known or seen her before) fits very well. this couple could have a future, and might it be bright.
     
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    f....i totally missed my 1000th post :D
     
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    Thanks for all the news. I don't understand the griping, though. Nathalie and Sarah finished within a couple points of each other at Nationals, its not as if one was dominant. So the National champ goes to Worlds probably and the skater with the better season goes to Euros- seems fair. Nathalie is given the same chance as everyone else to finish top 10 at Euros- but if she isn't strong enough to do that (which, to be honest, I don't think she quite is yet), then why not spread the spots around? If Nathalie stomped Sarah by 10 or 20 points at Nationals then I might have my side-eye up, but there is no crime going on here IMO.
     
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    Won't Nathalie be at Jr Worlds?
     
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    To the question about a German passport: Van Cleave mentioned in Oberstdorf that he is working towards it, language test was done, if I remember correctly, but before he can apply officially he needs 2 years of residency in Germany.

    And Aljona: I was at the press conference as well and I don't recall that she mentioned being ill again, she spoke of how long it took to overcome the inflammation of the sinuses.

    And both said that the costumes presented in Dortmund might still not be the final ones (maybe they rethink the ones for the free which were very black, but that is just a guess)
     
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    thanks for this news. maby the german press did once more not have its mind sorted :D
     
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    Jeschke, could you please provide a link for the "Enrico Caruso" thing, that is too funny, I'd like to show it to some friends. Or did the DEU take it down already (did not find it on their site).
     
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    Why don't believe one of the two going to european this year can gain a third spot for Germany? Could be wonderful!
     
  30. Jeschke

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    tell me a scenario how this could happen?!?
    i surely would like to see that. but how should z/g and k/c counted together place 13th or better?

    1. fra 1
    2. rus 1
    3. ita 1
    4. rus 2
    5. GER1 (and this is by far the best placement z/g could achieve)
    6. rus 3
    7. ita 2
    8. GER 2 -never see this happen because...

    teams that sould be behind them for 3rd spot for GER

    GBR 1, FRA 2, AZE, LTU, GBR 2, UKR, EST

    i cannot see z/g came in in front of r/t or her lil´brother (whoever is sent as rus 3), so k/c have to bebehind z/g on 7. sorry. that will not happen :( they surely can beat some of the teams listed above, but not all of them. fortune would be totally an germans side if this happens:40beers:
     
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