With a loud Jodel: German skating news

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Hedwig, Jun 13, 2010.

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  1. shan

    shan Well-Known Member

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    Beautiful skating from S/S!! I won't comment on the costume. :p

    I usually hate the pairs step sequences in the SP, but I love how theirs actually relates to the music! :cheer2:
     
  2. lauravvv

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    Thanks. I was waiting very much for their new programs. Although mazzy is right about the costumes (most likely they will change, though), the programs look much better and more promising than those by Volosozhar/Trankov. If they keep up the level of the last season, they will probably become world champions for the fourth time (of course, we can never count Pang/Tong and even Volosozhar/Trankov out).
     
  3. oleada

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    Finally got to watch S/S's SP! Not that it'll surprise anyone, but I loved it :swoon: They are such innovators. I love how they use the music; the program really builds. The only true artists in pairs these days. I love V/T but they have a long way to go before they can match S/S's artistry. Total legends, IMO.

    :swoon:
     
  4. Ziggy

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    Difficult, very short entry into the 3toes.

    Very interesting dance lift dismount straight into pair spin.

    Interesting step sequence (although it goes a bit too long).

    The rest is very decent but nothing outstanding.

    They skate to the music very well though (I also love how the program builds up) and both their basic skating and the program is infinitely better than V/T's "Bring Me to Life" nightmare (although the judges will probably disagree :/).

    They deserve 10s all round for skating to the "Pina" soundtrack. :)

    The contemporary dance inspired choreography seems very sophisticated, especially in the context of the usual FS shit.

    I haven't been this excited about a program ever.

    I have huge hopes and I hope that with more mileage the programs will look amazing.

    I'm so excited! And I just can't hide it! :cheer:
     
  5. oleada

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    I know I'm such an uber, but the FP looks amazing :swoon: So smooth and modern! It could be my favorite LP from them, though I say that every year.
     
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    Many thanks for the links!

    The SP program has barely started, and boom!, there's the throw out of nowhere. I loved the lift: fast entry, nice transition into the position change and direction change and, especially the dismount.
     
  7. la.louise

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    As a modern dancer I have to say I absolutely love the LP modern choreo :respec: This could become one of my favorite lp ever.

    The step sequence in the short is great and relates to the music perfectly,
    also love the lift and the dismount. I don't mind the costumes, but I think
    the costumes for the lp will change.
     
  8. Ninchen

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    Pity I can't watch the videos since they are blocked in Germany :( Do you know if there are any other links? I've already searched fsvids, but couldn't find anything
     
  9. julieann

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    They skated this extremely well - as they always do - but I don't see much innovation in the choreography. I know they usually do the double axle in exhibition so I don't know if they will do it in the program. I doubt it since it won't get them many points and their triple flip is huge. I would rather see it at SA since I'm not a fan of seeing programs for the first time under spotlights. I do love their costumes.

    I love the fact that they are skating to the music and got the choreography inspiration from the movie and soundtrack from Pina. (I can't wait to see the movie!) I als can't wait to see the final version. The start of the Grand Prix can't come soon enough.
     
  10. Proustable

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    That long program is stunning. Holy cow.
     
  11. Hedwig

    Hedwig Rarely here anymore but I try to be better!

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    look upthread. I could watch it with hidemyass.com
     
  12. Jeschke

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    thanks for the hint ;)

    the sp is great built-on, speacial mood created, i liked that; not sure, whether both are sure to land clean tripples out of nowhere for sure, but nice to see.
    new variation in pair spin, i liked that.


    applause applause for (the courage) skating to the pina-soundtrack. great costumes, perfect fit to the movie, even the mood, but i don´t know whether this program jumps on the audience and judges without seeing the movie, i don´t know.
    for me it´s perfect, it´s again something new from them, that´s great to see, i ilke the endings of the lifts (especially because the lifts haven´t changed too much) and their whole package of skating.
    i don´t know, what the judges will see, but as from now on, they are really far away of v/t, but i doubt we will see that in points.

    i´m a little bit excited about the first half of the pina-program? let´s hope, steuer didn´t want to show it, because there´s something special in it. new combination (but don´t know, what that could be with their solid 3t seq 3t) or maybe the quadruple flip? let´s wait and see :D

    grogeous programs, especially the free skate
     
  13. Hedwig

    Hedwig Rarely here anymore but I try to be better!

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    Germany awards Unity price to S/S

    http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,15432602,00.html

     
  14. VarBar

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    Love most parts of their new music and I let out a big sigh of relief when I saw they put the Pink Panther kind of stuff behind them as I never got to enjoy their LP of last season even when they skated it flawlessly.

    I think it's the nicest material I've watched thus far in the current season's pairs skating, less Aliona's costuming.:rolleyes: Hope it can be improved.:)
     
  15. Ninchen

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    Thanks Hedwig!
     
  16. Hedwig

    Hedwig Rarely here anymore but I try to be better!

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    S/S will not start at German championships. They say that they will need a rest after their four GPs. (;) already planning in the GPF...).
    The German fed is okay with that and say that they understand that S/S are not as young as they used to be and need a rest before Europeans.
     
  17. Jeschke

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    what other option has the german federation? ;)
    i´m sure they would like to see s/s at the german championships, because there would be more audience, but they achieved such a status, so they have their latitudes.
    but it could be interessting though, with upcoming h/w, z/g and hecken; it could be worse ;)
     
  18. Jeschke

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    first time i saw the new fs of vartmann/van cleave from the nebelhorn trophy

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Tatjana2541#p/u/8/uc3zuA_1eCA

    i´m kind of impressed; he´s a string guy, not the best match for pcs, but they improved since last season, now it´s about getting consistent.

    i like their first lift (2:47), interessting position, we will see, how gets the third spot
     
  19. Ziggy

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    Van Cleave deserves the third Pair spot on the basis of his hunkiness alone. :swoon:
     
  20. aftershocks

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    As someone else mentioned already, Robin said in the Absolute Skating interview (linked here in GSD in another thread):

    Questioner: So your programs are all ready, what about the costumes?

    Robin: The ones for the short program are, but not for the free, so we'll be wearing temporary ones tonight. The new costumes are in production though, so we'll have them ready for our first competition in two weeks' time.


    I like what I see of these new programs for S/S. It seems to me that they were perhaps holding some things back from the sp as well as the free, and that more might be added to sp as the season progresses. At the Golden Skate Awards, it seems they were giving a taste of both programs (with a bigger taste of the sp). I agree with most previous assessments/ critiques. Great build-up of music and moves (dramatic tension, excitement and control, push/ pull, sparring aspect of the Angels/Demons theme) in the sp, with as always beautiful attention to detail and excellent musical interpretation. Nice to see a fresh pair spin from them in the sp, and I love their overall ease, confidence, playful attitude and apparent readiness for the season. They are skating like World Champions.

    The work-in-progress free program is delightful, and I look forward to seeing more. Great how these two and their coach are so professional in their approach to training and goal-setting. They never rest on their laurels -- always are looking to grow and challenge themselves, try new things and up the ante athletically and artistically.
     
  21. Nune

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    really great programm for S/S !!!!! such a creative pair/trainer ... don't remember any pair representing such a big variety of styles in their programs all over the years !!!
     
  22. sandra_persch

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    Lots of skaters will be competing next week.

    Paul Fentz & Franz Streubel who both fully rotated the 3A in their last competition will be at Coupe de Nice together with Isabel Drescher, Sandy Hoffmann & Nathalie Weinzierl in Ladies.
    Vartmann & van Cleave will compete in Pairs and Hermann & Hermanns and Kolbe & Caruso in Dance

    http://nice-figure-skating-cup.com/images/stories/docs-coupe/resultats2011/html/

    More interesting for me will be Tirnavia Ice Cup. http://www.kraso.sk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ENTRIES_Tirnavia_Ice_Cup_2011.xls

    In Junior Mens will will have the international comeback for Alexander Schoepke who had to sit out last season due to injury and illness. Also competing will be Manuel Leitner, Aljoscha Hadasch and Vincent Hey;
    Junior Ladies will be Anna Baumgaertel, Laura Fritzsche, Anne Zetzsche and Henriette Graessler

    While there is only one Novice Men on the entry list Kurt Grohmann, the novice ladies team is huge! Most of the girls are from Saxony it should be interesting how they all rank here.
    I will list the jump content from their first competition of the season behind the names) I will keep an eye on Lutricia Bock (2A, 3S) Lea Dastich (2A, 3S), Tina Helleken (2A, 3S, 3R), Paula Mikolajczyk (2A) and Chiara Thiele (2A, 3S). To meet the Team envelope criteria for next season these ladies need to skate 83 (Tina , Lutricia) / 80 points (Lea, Chiara, Paula)
     
  23. Jeschke

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    what a gorgeous program of s/s in the free skate. they´re pushing forward and forward. by time i don´t matter if they become olympic champions or not (though i really want them to be - but fear the worst), they´re so outstanding; this program is the best and demanding program in pairs skating i´v seen for a while.

    sadly h/w seem not to get off their low pcs; i really don´t know why; maylin is great, daniel not really catches someones eye, but their programes improved so much and for the first time, i really like both programs of them; hope the judges will move them up and their single jumps will improve.

    z/g - i don´t like the free dance; i don´t know why. it doesn´t get me, and if you ask me, the audience neither. their was almost no clapping after their performance; that´s too sad, because i really love that team but i fear with that fd, they will not move forward
     
  24. Ziggy

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    Savchenko/Szolkowy have two incredible programs but the FS really looks rough around the edges at the moment. It needs more work, more polishing, more mileage on it.

    Hausch/Wende - What happened to them? They were very strong last season but at SA they didn't have much speed and their skating looked much weaker overall. Maybe they're just not in the best shape at the moment.

    Zhiganshina/Gazsi - I agree that the FD isn't good at all. Staviski really didn't do a good job on this one. If I were them, I'd be ditching that program and working on a new one, as soon as their second GP is over.
     
  25. DORISPULASKI

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    OTOH, I love Z&G's SD! But bring back the knives!

    I wonder whether they had problems getting them into the arena (not to mention the country) here in the US?
     
  26. Hedwig

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    Hausch has an inflammation of her foot at the moment so it is not surprising that they weren't at their best.
     
  27. DORISPULASKI

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    That is sad.
     
  28. Ziggy

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    Thanks, I didn't realise.

    Hopefully they can clear that up soon.

    Their FS looks very promising.
     
  29. Finnice

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    :(Thanks. I was so surprised that they were not skating well. IIRC they took bronze last year in TEB.
    And he is :smokin:
     
  30. sandra_persch

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    Awesome! Dresden gets a JGP next year! :cheer:

     
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