Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by barbk, Aug 7, 2011.
Y'all are casting your pearls before swine!
Michelle Kwan was one of the best things that ever happened to U.S. Figure Skating, and they sure as hell knew it.
Why even bother to acknowledge such nonsense. Just another unhappy button pusher getting their kicks playing the bigotry and race cards. Screw em!
I've previous made my thoughts clear on referring to U.S. Figure Skating as a discrete entity. That being said:
U.S. Figure Skating worships the ground Michelle Kwans walks on.
The association will never deliberately slight her. However, she has not maintained much of an ongoing relationship with the association; much more than Sarah or Tara, Michelle has moved on to a new phase of her life. Some skaters crave recognition from U.S. Figure Skating because it brings their past accomplishments - which form the core of their identity - back into the spotlight. Michelle does not seem to crave recognition of past accomplishments; she runs from spotlights.
Self-praise is no recommendation.
Isn't it possible that Michelle still has some endorsement contracts that require her to maintain her eligible status, even if she has no intention of returning to competitive skating? That would preclude her induction into the HOF at this time.
I thought it was stated that a skater's status does not matter. What matters is the amount of time has passed since one's last eligible competition and when they get inducted into the HoF.
But it gives an impression to the general public that one has retired. Michelle's sponsors may not want her inducted into the HOF just yet. 1000% speculation on my part.
I'm not sure why it matters. It's not as if Kwan has been active in the skating scene in 5 years. Doing a few shows for Yu Na does not give anyone the impression that she's training for Sochi.
You posted this in response to my last post; I don't understand what you mean. I certainly wasn't praising myself; to me, it's pretty clear that I wasn't even talking about myself.
But Average Joe doesn't know that. When I was on my way to Spokane in 2007, someone at the airport asked me if Nancy Kerrigan would be competing. But anyway, it was just a thought.
Referring to Tara and Sarah, perhaps?
Read post # 92.
Huh? Sarah has definitely moved on to a new phase of her life.
Tara shelved her moribund acting career to do skating commentary. Michelle has a BA and MA and has had diplomat assignments with the last two US administrations. Sarah graduated from Yale several years ago, but what has she done since then?
Yes, I assumed that the other poster was talking about skating. Tara is into skating commentary, even Michelle still does a bit of skating from time to time. I don't know what Sarah is doing these days, but she seems as far removed from FS as one can get.
Well, Sarah is invited to some shows this upcoming season. Does she have another job?
Sarah is listed for two Disson shows; Fashion on Ice and Beatles on Ice. I'm looking forward to seeing her back on the ice. I hope she's gotten some of her jumps back.
Sarah is writing a book.
ON Face Book, USFSA just opened up the nomination process.
Just retweeted the link on twitter myself.
ETA: In regards to moving on, in Tara's case I find it weird that she basically shunned the skating world for so long and then all the sudden jumps in and is like so I'm going to do commentary, and shows, etc. I think there was a FAQ or an article posted on Tara's official website a few years ago, before she decided to become skating relevant again, and it said that she didn't like being asked about her time with SOI or skating. I just found the whole situation odd.
I think Tara simply grew up and came to terms with whatever experiences she had with SOI and skating. With that closure she can welcome skating in her life again and not feel negatively about it.
I tried officially nominating Michelle Kwan, but the form requires I know all her personal info (home address, phone number, email, etc.). I mean I'm one of her biggest fans, but I shouldn't know that information. I guess the form is there to separate people who are simply fans from those who are actually a part of the USFS.
Anyway, I found a link that had her "public" contact info. Maybe I should just use that. http://www.fanmail.biz/52373.html
i put my own address for michelle address and phone number and email.
i don't expect the usoc expect the fans to know michelles address.
i thnk you can put your own in for hers as well.
It's not really that odd. She had no success with acting so she went back to what she could fall back on-skating.
FWIW, I emailed the USFS about the form, and they changed it so the personal information need not be submitted (and the event dates can be left blank)
Some Questions answered regarding the upcoming U.S. Figure Skating Hall of Fame Nominations.
With the 2012 U.S. Figure Skating Hall of Fame nominations open through Oct. 3, 2011 I decided to get some information on the process from the contact listed on the nomination form. What I learned is likely to make many skating fans very happy.
1. The first question I asked was "Does the phrase 'retired from competitive skating' mean a formal public announcement of retirement, or just having not competed in the past five years?" - Anwser: Just having been away from competitive skating for that period of time. (Note: Expect to see this specific wording to be cleared up for future nominating years.)
2. Was Michelle Kwan nominated last season? Answer is Yes but the nominating board ruled that since she had attempted to compete in the 2006 Olympics, her mere stepping on the practice ice was enough to disqualify her nominations received for possible induction in Jan 2011.
3. Has the USFS HOF nominations committee received a nomination for Michelle for possible inclusion on the 2012 ballot? Answer: Yes - several!
4. Is it likely her name will be added to the ballot for selection, vote and induction to the USFS HOF this coming January? Answer: Extremely likely.
5. Has the nomination committee received nominations on behalf of Rudy Galindo? Answer: Not yet, but they are expected. The contact encouraged that he be nominated.
As a result of my conversation I believe that both these great skaters will be added to the ballot, voted on and likely notified as such before the vote as is required and both to be inducted in Jan 2012 in San Jose, CA during the National Championships.
It will be extremely fitting to have both skaters inducted in San Jose.
Which is the real USFSA facebook site? There seems to be several out there, and the ones I'm seeing look pretty dead.
Visalia kid -- thanks for asking the questions and posting the answers. Very helpful.
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