Who will win 2011 Ladies World Championships Gold Medal?

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Who will win the 2011 ladies World Championships gold medal?

Poll closed Apr 13, 2011.
  1. Kim Yu-Na

    132 vote(s)
    55.9%
  2. Mao Asada

    47 vote(s)
    19.9%
  3. Miki Ando

    40 vote(s)
    16.9%
  4. Alissa Czisny

    9 vote(s)
    3.8%
  5. Rachael Flatt

    2 vote(s)
    0.8%
  6. Carolina Kostner

    1 vote(s)
    0.4%
  7. Kiira Korpi

    2 vote(s)
    0.8%
  8. Kanako Murakami

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Ksenia Makarova

    1 vote(s)
    0.4%
  10. Alena Leonova

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Viktoria Helgesson

    2 vote(s)
    0.8%
  12. Other

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Maofan7

    Maofan7 Away

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    Assuming 2011 Worlds go ahead, who will win the ladies Gold medal?

    Note that the old poll has closed and took place before cancellation and need to reschedule (a delay that will obviously impact on skaters preparations). Worth running again with a wider choice of skaters to vote for
     
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  3. Maofan7

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    As stated, poll closed and took place before cancellation and need to reschedule. Worth running again.
     
  4. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

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    I voted Mao. You should have included Cynthia Phaneuf on the list though. If you include Helgesson you should include her since she probably has more of a chance of winning than Helgesson or even Leonova.
     
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  5. Maofan7

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    You raise a valid point. The last slot indeed came down to a choice between Helgesson and Phaneuf.

    On a non-skating note, RIP Elizabeth Taylor. A very sad day.
     
  6. neptune

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    Where's "Mary Ann Summers"???? :eek: ;)
     
  7. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    I still say Miki. Her jumps have just been so huge and consistent this whole season.
     
  8. judgejudy27

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    Yu Na Kim. Nobody in the field has any chance against her if she is even close to clean, especialy now with Worlds not even in Japan anymore. And with surprisingly 3 bad outings at Worlds in 4 years, she is due for a good showing, which can not be challenged by anyone in the field with Mao still not close to her best.

    I think silver and bronze will probably go to Japanese women. Even if one of Miki or Mao have an off competition I have a feeling Murakami will step up in that case. I dont trust Kostner or Czisny to deliver at a Worlds. And I dont think Flatt or any of other European women can medal regardless how they perform.
     
  9. pinky166

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    Not even pretty Kiira with her 3-3s and 7 triple FS? :)
    That is, if she ever manages to deliver in both programs at one competition....
     
  10. judgejudy27

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    I dont know what Kiira's scoring potential is since like you said she has never gone clean. However her best free skate ever was her one in winning her first regular season grand prix this fall, and even that didnt exactly score huge.
     
  11. neptune

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    Perhaps she should consider using a professional courier. ;)
     
  12. pinky166

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    True, but it wasn't clean. I guess it's good she plans to do 7 triples though because then if she messes up a couple of them, which she usually does, she's still left with around 5 which will allow her to score pretty well.

    Alissa has done very well this season and I'm curious to see if she can keep the momentum going at Worlds. I'd could see her maybe winning silver or bronze here, but I also wouldn't be surprised to see her as far down as like 8th.
     
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    Yuna kim.....Go yuna!
     
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    coolmoon....
    oh! thanks. Goooooood!
     
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    Queen Yu-Na!!!
     
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    If Yuna is in top form she will probably win. I say "probably" not "certainly" because I'm not sure how the judges will score her given that they haven't seen her skate in over a year and because they are not familiar with her new programs.

    I think it shows Yuna's courage and commitment to skating that she is coming back to compete for the first time in a year at Worlds no less! Perhaps she is just happy to compete again and is not expecting to necessarily win. Personally, I think she is feeling renewed after a year off from competition and is excited about getting back into it. I hope so, she is such a gift to skating, and I hope she continues to compete through the next Olympics.
     
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  18. icellist

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    I seriously think this year is Miki's year, but if she does falter, then the podium is up for grabs, most likely by Yuna. Mao's consistency at Worlds will help. I think whoever did this poll had a very good guess about who is going to be on the podium. except Phaneuf > Helgesson

    I say:
    Miki 1
    Yuna 2
    Mao 3 - 4
    Czisny 3 - 11 (depends on watch Czisny we get. hopefully the good one)
    Murakami 3 - 7
    Kostner 3 - 10
    Flatt 5 - 10
    Korpii 6 - 9
    Phaneuf 6 - 10
    Makarova 9 - 10
    Leonava 9 - 10

    But still really really really really really irked about Mirai not making Worlds. I think after both of their subpar performance at nationals. USFSA should have decided their world berths based on their performances at 4CC. She would have been 3 - 8 in my opinion.
     
  19. icellist

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    oh yea the rest of the roster should be like:
    12 Helgesson
    13 Gede....
    14 Kwak Min Jung
    15 Helgesson
    16 Lee
    17 Vannut
    18 Hecken
    19 Samson
    20 McCorkell or Meite
     
  20. briancoogaert

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    Very hard to tell. IMO, it's even harder than the Worlds as previously scheduled.
    I don't know how those girls who trained a lot for March will bear the pressure one month later !
    Maybe Carolina will be able to land a good 3 flip with one more month. And a beautiful 3/3 in the SP !
     
  21. pinky166

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    Makarova and Leonova, especially Leonova, are capable of falling out of the top 10. I'd say the same is true for Phanuef and Korpi too, depending on which girl shows up at worlds. The results I expect are:

    Places 1-3:
    Miki
    Yuna
    Mao

    and maybe:
    Kanako
    Carolina
    Alissa

    Places 4-6:
    Kanako
    Carolina
    Alissa

    and maybe:
    Mao
    Kiira
    Rachael
    Ksenia

    Places 7-9:
    Kiira
    Rachael
    Cynthia

    and maybe:
    Ksenia
    Alena
    Alissa
    Carolina

    Places 9-11:
    Ksenia
    Alena
    Elene

    and maybe:
    Cynthia
    Viktoria
    Min-Jung
    Joshi
    Myrianne


    Places 12-14:
    Viktoria
    Min-Jung
    Joshi

    and maybe:
    Alena
    Elene
    Juulia
    Myrianne
    Sarah
     
  22. Karpenko

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    I think the fact that most of the skaters thinking Worlds being cancelled was a big possibility is going to light a fire under all of them. I think all 4 disciplines will be more competitive than they were before, I'm super excited.
     
  23. blue_idealist

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    Amelie Lacoste is going instead of Myriane Samson now, apparently (Samson's injured). I read that in another thread.
     
  24. icellist

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    i would be so surprised if minjung kwak got 12th and yuna kim got 1st. Then korea would finally have 3 skaters at worlds next year. There's going to be such a huge talent splurge from korea soon. I am really happy that other people like min-jung (I thought I was the only one). If she gets the PCS she deserves and skates to the best of her ability, I'd say she can get 10th but she, sadly, always misses one jump or element. Once again, so happy that someone thinks so highly of minjung to be put into 9-14 rank
     
  25. icellist

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    oh yea btw, i'm not really informed with some of the canadian skaters

    did mira leung retire?
    and who is better between Samson or Lacoste?
     
  26. loulou

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    Predictions are really hard, this time the advantage will go to those who don't fall too much out of shape once the season peak is over. Which can also be read: those who never particularly peak, or accuratly paln to.

    I'll say what my dream podium would be though.
    Asada, Korpi, and then for third place I'd be torn between Murakami and Czisny. I think I enjoy Murakami slightly more, but I'd also love for Czisny to medal at worlds at least once.

    -- Wishful thinking.
     
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  27. wonderlen

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    I say right now advantage goes to skaters who are mentally tought and doesn't skate half their program on butt (Kim, Asada, Ando, Murakami). Others like Kostner, Cizney has potential to skates well, but the chances are like winning a lottery. Others like Korppi, Makarova don't have a chance even with ridicolous PCS and pretty bonuses.

    Right now chances wise: Ando 30% & Kim 30% (both are already max out their score potential, unless they attempt the 3F and 3Lo respectively). Asada 40% (coz she has potential to outscore both of them). But then, ice is slippery so.
     
  28. Polymer Bob

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    Four of the last three world champions are in this event. :confused:
     
  29. nubka

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    Although I voted for Yu-na, I would be thrilled if Miki took the gold! :D
     
  30. pinky166

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    Well Min-Jung just placed 8th at 4CC, ahead of Lacoste and Samson, and she's scored in the mid-high 140s at her past 3 competitions (4cc, Asian Games, Nationals) and her PCS have been improving. If she skates clean and rotates her jumps, she could probably score like 55 for SP and 105 for FS so around 160 overall, which probably could correlate to like 10th place.

    If she skates like she did at her recent events, she'll probably finish more 12th-15th if I had to guess, but looking at the 4CC results, if you replace Akiko with Kanako and remove Mirai, and then add the European ladies likely to beat MJ at Worlds - Carolina, Kiira, Ksenia very likely (although not even considering how inconsistent those ladies can be...), that would put Min-Jung in 10th place, and then there's a group of like 5 ladies that could beat her but also might not, those skaters being Alena, Elene, Amelie, and both Helgessons. Skaters like Sarah Hecken, Cheltzie and Mae can be added to that group as well, though I think Min-Jung has a good shot at beating those three at Worlds this year judging from recent results. So if they all beat her, that would be like 19th place, but realistically they probably won't, so I still say 12th-15th is more realistically what she'll place. Maybe like 9, 10, 11 if she skates really well and/or others falter. I know last year she bombed at Worlds, but I tend to think that was because she was burnt out after the Olympics and that won't happen this year. Her URs seem to be less of an issue now, so there is a slim chance Korea could get 3 spots, although I think more likely is that they will just miss getting 3 spots.