Who is the woman version of Patrick Chan?

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by DickButtonFan, Nov 28, 2010.

Who is the female Patrick Chan?

  1. Kiira Korpi

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    10.3%
  2. Carolina Kostner

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    55.7%
  3. Alissa Czisney

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    17.2%
  4. Other

    29 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. DickButtonFan

    DickButtonFan New Member

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    ...Meaning who can have major falls/errors and still win?

    (This thread is not meant to be taken seriously.)
     
  2. ks777

    ks777 Well-Known Member

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    Yuna?
     
  3. purple skates

    purple skates Shadow dancing

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    There is no human being who could possibly be as good as Patrick Chan, so it is a moot point. :drama:

    (This post is not meant to be taken seriously. :p)
     
  4. MikiAndoFan#1

    MikiAndoFan#1 Well-Known Member

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    Patricia Chan?

    :p
     
  5. dundas

    dundas Banned Member

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    double-jump-queen Lepisto. :lol::lol: I would say her scores are more Chanish. Chan has at least tried some hard jumps and occasionally landed them. Lepisto, not so much, we are back to 60s.Lepisto's jump content is an embarrassment.
     
  6. BigB08822

    BigB08822 Well-Known Member

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    Kostner is simply taking advantage of the CoP by doing what little she can very cleanly. I don't see that as being the same as falling 4 times in a competition and still winning over clean skates by very good skaters. I don't even like Kostner but I don't feel she has been held up like Chan has. Korpi also does what she does well enough to win or place well. I don't know if the women have an equivalent right now and for that I am thankful.
     
  7. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Occasionally I have seen Carolina get high marks even with mistake filled programs but not with falls.

    I thought Laura Lepisto was overmarked last year when she doubled many jumps; they would have been falls had she tried to do 3 rotations, but she did not actually fall.

    P.S.- I am not taking this thread seriously either.
     
  8. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    I'd say she's more the female Takahashi.

    Joannie Rochette is the female Chan. They both have gorgeous basics and transitions, but he's 3a challenged and she's 3lz challenged, he falls a lot and she pops a lot, and even when they mistakes, they both always score well, especially at Skate Canada,
     
  9. professordeb

    professordeb Well-Known Member

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    Ummm .. do I have to pick a skater? :)

    pinky - you may be onto something about Joannie and Patrick. I do so lurve to watch both of them skate.

    Hmmmm ... the choices are such gooooood ones, and the write-in ones even moreso. I choose Carolina only because
    - I've seen her skater more often
    - I've seen her implode more often than other women skaters
    - it has seemed to me that she gets the benefit of a doubt on her PCS in spite of her falls
    - she too apparently just flies across the ice (now I can't say for sure, never having seen her skate, but I'm told she is fast and I know that Chan IS fast having seen him about 3 times live).

    Yep, it seems Carolina and Patrick make a good pair according to my analysis.

    And this post is totally done with tongue in cheek and not meant to be serious.
     
  10. museksk8r

    museksk8r Holding an edge and looking dangerously sexy

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    Huh? :confused: What international competition has Joannie ever won by falling all over the place? I'd like you to name even one.
     
  11. skateboy

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    I don't think there is a female counterpart to Patrick, not even Carolina or Lepisto. Not really the same situation.

    (Okay, I guess that was my serious answer to a non-serious thread!)
     
  12. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    If such a female skater existed in recent memory it would be Sasha Cohen I guess. Except her basics are nowhere near his (but her musicality and sheer beauty of her skating is far superior).
     
  13. Jaana

    Jaana Well-Known Member

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    Voted for "Other": I see Laura Lepisto as the closest.
     
  14. riveredge

    riveredge Active Member

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    Yuna didn't fall 4/6 times in a single competition and managed to win. :p:rolleyes:
     
  15. escaflowne9282

    escaflowne9282 Well-Known Member

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    But Sasha never won anything :shuffle:
     
  16. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

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    There's no one.
    Patrick Chan's basics are unmatched. :p
     
  17. orientalplane

    orientalplane Mad for mangelwurzels

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    So are his falls. :p
     
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  18. gkelly

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    Michelle Kwan
    Irina Slutskaya
    (when not competing against each other)

    Peggy Fleming
     
  19. topaz

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    Michelle Kwan is one of the most consistent skaters in the history of sport, in my opinion.

    Also, MK was an incredible competitor. One of the fiercest. I wouldn't categorize Chan as great competitor nor a consistent skater.

    I voted for Korpi. She has excellent basic, good IN and PE but consistency regarding jumping is similar to Chan. Also, she does not seem to suffer in he PCS scores in some of the categories due to popped jumps.
     
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  20. topaz

    topaz Well-Known Member

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    Michelle Kwan is one of the most consistent skaters in the history of sport, in my opinion.

    Also, MK was an incredible competitor. One of the fiercest. I wouldn't categorize Chan as great competitor nor a consistent skater.

    I voted for Korpi. She has excellent basic, good IN and PE but consistency regarding jumping is similar to Chan. Also, she does not seem to suffer in he PCS scores in some of the categories due to popped jumps.

    Carolina has lost competitions due to her failed jumps and the judges are not so forgiving to Caro as they are Chan or Korpi.
     
  21. blue_idealist

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    I don't think there is one now, but I found that Joannie Rochette could often have major technical errors and maybe get a higher placement than it looks like she should have. However, it wasn't as extreme as with Chan. I don't remember her falling and winning anything other than Canadian Nats.
     
  22. dundas

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    Korpi may be pretty but she doesn't have 'excellent' or even 'good' basic. She doesn't get down to the knees and her stroking is very stiff.
     
  23. Wyliefan

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    :confused: Winning U.S. nationals, the Grand Prix Final, and a bunch of GPs counts for nothing?
     
  24. L'amour

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    I was going to sau Yuna buuut...

    I'm voting for Caroline. I don't get her skating at all;
     
  25. burntBREAD

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    Caroline Zhang?! :eek: Her PCS have never gone higher than 53, I think!
     
  26. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

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    And there is absolutely no doubt : she deserves her bad PCS ! :lol:
     
  27. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    Not winning but at the Olympics she won bronze with a messy FS, at 09 Skate Canada she had a bad FS and still won gold, at 09 Worlds she had a huge SP score without doing a 3-3 and that also happened at 09 SC where she had a margin of like 7 points over Alissa in the SP even though they were both clean and landed the same jumps. And some of her scores at Canadian Nationals have been overly humongous.

    Don't get me wrong Joannie is a wonderful skater, it just seems like sometimes her scores are a little too high for programs that usually are not clean.
     
  28. Artifice

    Artifice Guest

    No lady actually is in the exact same situation than Chan but Lepisto is close.
    She can rank very well without the jumps. Embarrassing indeed.
     
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  29. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

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    :rofl:
    messy with 7 triples, 6 perfectly done including a 3/3 sequence, a 2Axel and everything else level 3 or 4 ?
    Well, you have a weird vision of what is a messy program. ;)
     
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  30. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    I remember she had a number of step outs, left out a combination, etc and yet she still scored above Mirai who was totally clean....maybe my wanting Mirai to win bronze has fogged my memory though.