I usually stay out of threads about the ladies so I figured it was S/P, Plushenko and Stojko who are often disliked here (not that I necessarily agree). I wouldn't want to be a fan of any of them around here, it can't be much fun. Lysacek should definitely be on the list, more so than Urmanov. There's video of everyone heading backstage post-warmup and it looks like Hongbo Zhao is giving Sale a very disdainful look. It's pretty hilarious, even if it's just because of the camera angle. She was pretty careless out there on the ice.