Which of these 10 performances was the best?

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Which of these 10 performances was the best?

Poll closed Nov 28, 2013.
  1. Tessa Virtue & Scott Moir (Free Dance - 2010 Olympics)

    30 vote(s)
    15.6%
  2. Kim Yu-Na (Free Skate - 2010 Olympics)

    34 vote(s)
    17.7%
  3. Xue Shen & Hongbo Zhao (Free Skate - 2003 World Championships)

    32 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. Michelle Kwan (Short Program - 1998 U.S. Nationals)

    20 vote(s)
    10.4%
  5. Alexei Yagudin (Short Program - 2002 Olympics)

    31 vote(s)
    16.1%
  6. Peggy Fleming (Free Skate - 1968 Olympics)

    2 vote(s)
    1.0%
  7. Jayne Torvill & Christopher Dean (Free Dance - 1984 Olympics)

    26 vote(s)
    13.5%
  8. Daisuke Takahashi (Free Skate - 2010 World Championships)

    7 vote(s)
    3.6%
  9. Mao Asada (Free Skate - 2008 World Championships)

    3 vote(s)
    1.6%
  10. Sasha Cohen (Short Program - 2006 Olympics)

    7 vote(s)
    3.6%
  1. Maofan7

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    What do you think of this list by Dustin Newcombe? It is a list of what he regards as the 10 best figure skating performances ever, and the criteria he has used is as follows:-

    The top 10 in order on the list is as follows:-

    1. Tessa Virtue & Scott Moir (Free Dance - 2010 Olympics)
    2. Kim Yu-Na (Free Skate - 2010 Olympics)
    3. Xue Shen & Hongbo Zhao (Free Skate - 2003 World Championships)
    4. Michelle Kwan (Short Program - 1998 U.S. Nationals)
    5. Alexei Yagudin (Short Program - 2002 Olympics)
    6. Peggy Fleming (Free Skate - 1968 Olympics)
    7. Jayne Torvill & Christopher Dean (Free Dance - 1984 Olympics)
    8. Daisuke Takahashi (Free Skate - 2010 World Championships)
    9. Mao Asada (Free Skate - 2008 World Championships)
    10. Sasha Cohen (Short Program - 2006 Olympics)

    Its not a list I personally agree with. But, which of these 10 performances would you say was the best of the 10? Do you agree with the list and the order in which it is ranked? What, if any, performances do you believe are missing from the list in terms of the greatest performances of all time? What would your top 10 greatest performances of all time be?
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  2. Jammers

    Jammers Well-Known Member

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    Not sure why you would include Peggy's free skate at the Olympics which wasn't her best at all. Her free skate at Nationals that year was much better. That was the one that should be included.
  3. Vash01

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    I don't think you can compare long & short programs. It's apples and oranges.
  4. Maofan7

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    Peggy Fleming - FS (1968 U.S. Nationals)
  5. Maofan7

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    Something tells me that Michelle is about to win another poll! I would place her at the top of my own top 10, but it would not be for the SP from 1998 U.S. Nationals. It would be for the free skate from 1998 U.S. Nationals! Hence, in this poll, I voted for Torvill & Dean
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  6. museksk8r

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    I also can't believe Asada's 2008 Worlds LP was selected where she face planted to the ice on her 3Axel takeoff edge and then took what seemed forever to pull herself back together. She skated it so much better at 4CC that season!

    My vote goes to Shen/Zhao! That performance was really something special and she was injured on top of it. I still cry from joy when I watch that performance. Amazing and iconic!
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  7. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    The writer picking Fleming from the 68 Olympics is a total joke when that was probably her worst performance ever. Mao has also had many performances better than her 2008 Worlds LP.
  8. Vash01

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    I don't know who Dustin Newcombe is but based on this list of top 10 performances I am not sure that he has watched much FS. How could he not rank G&G's 1989 worlds LP performance or their 1988 Olympics performance or Michelle Kwan's Lyra Angelica or Irina's 2005 worlds LP or Midori Ito's 1990 worlds LP performance in the top 10? The very fact that he puts SP and LP on the same list tells me that he does not know how different they are. If he wanted to include SP, B&S's 2002 Olympics SP is the best SP ever, and should have been on this list. I would still not compare it with any of the LPs.
  9. Vash01

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    Mao's SP skated to Chopin at the 2006 GP (was it at SC?) was so beautiful!
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    More like top ten most overrated performances ever.
  11. bardtoob

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    Kwan at 1998 Nationals because it is gorgeous and has the 3F.
  12. blue_idealist

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    A few of them I don't remember; a few of them I thought were pretty great. I picked V/M's though because I can still VIVIDLY remember it now, and some of the others are a bit foggy in my mind even though I know I thought they were great at the time (even other recent ones like Takahashi's Worlds 2010). I guess you could say V/M's program made the biggest impression on me.
  13. lala

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    I voted to Yuna.
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  14. gingercrush

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    There is only one among that lot and nothing even compares to it. Obviously Bolero. The only thing that comes close is Peggy Fleming. I can't believe the stupid Virtue & Moir fans (and I actually like Virtue & Moir) are voting for that Free Dance over Bolero.

    Oh and before people talk about how flawed Peggy's performance was. And? One has to remember the historical context and circumstances of why that performance was so good.
  15. girlscouse62

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    Some of us stupid V/M fans were not actually great fans of Bolero. I'm British, and I adore Chris and Jayne, but didn't care for Bolero that much. However had they nominated Mac and Mable or Barnum, I might have voted differently. So thanks for your "stupid" quote gingercrush!
  16. parapluies

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    Sorry but as much as I like Bolero, Tessa and Scott's performance of Mahler was the epitome of absolute perfection and I couldn't bring myself to vote for another.Nothing can top that performance. Sorry to break it to you, but Ice dance and figure skating has moved on and improved and its time to move along with it :)
  17. ciocio

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    I´ve voted for Yagudin because I´m a biased fan :p but V/M, Yuna, or T/D had great performances too. I would have voted for Yuna´s Olympic SP or 2009 Worlds LP too, they are one of my fav. ever.
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    :drama:
  19. ciocio

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    Then post the performances that were really the best in your opinion. :)
  20. gingercrush

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    No Ice Dancing has just entered the internet age where crazy stans exist.
  21. judgejudy27

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    Bolero was incredible, but V&M's performance was exquisite, pretty much perfect, and the technical demands of ice dancing are on a whole other planet today than they were in the 80s. I didnt vote for either of those, but if I were going to vote for an ice dancing performance I would have had a hard time picking between T&D's Bolero, V&M's Mahler Vancouver winning FD, Klimova & Ponomarenko's Bach 92 OG dance. All would be worthy choices. Even though they didnt win any of the big competitions with it I also found V&M's Carmen of 2013 a historic (and heavily underrated) FD.

    My vote ultimately went to Kim's 2010 Vancouver FS, but I would have picked Kim's 2010 Vancouver SP which I actually much preferred had it been there. Had Kwan's 98 Nationals LP, 2001 Worlds LP, or Ito's 89 NHK LP been included I might have picked them.

    I cant believe M&D's Dreams of Love from 91 or 92 Worlds were not included though.
  22. Golightly

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    Perhaps, in a few years, people will look back and see just how historic it really was. For me, the best FD under the new (now not so new) system and one of the best ever.

    Oops, forgot to add that I voted for Sasha's Dark Eyes :p
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  23. parapluies

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    You act as if 'crazy stans' didn't exist in the 80s/90s and that its a relatively new thing.
  24. Judge Dred

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    It's Yagudin for me too
  25. FSfan107

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    Yagudin's SP in Salt Lake is the one that jumps out as most memorable for me out of those. Shen & Zhao at 2003 Worlds is up there too.
  26. sk8ingcoach

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    This is really hard. T/d would be a good pick because they were so innovative. But then v/m were amazing as well. Tuna Kim was flawless. Sasha also had a great performance.
  27. giselle23

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    Agree.
  28. museksk8r

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    :lol: Tuna Kim, how do you want that cooked?
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    The Japanese chefs served her up as a new Sushi menu item so she wouldn't beat their beloved Mao and Miki anymore.
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    This is a horrible top 10. Cohen, Asada of 2008 Worlds, Fleming of 68 Olympics, and Takahashi should be nowhere near a list of top 10 performances ever considering all disciplines. I doubt any of those would make top 10 ever performances even in just their own discipline.