Which 2 U.S. men are you hoping will make the 2014 Olympic team?

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Sylvia, Dec 24, 2013.

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Which 2 U.S. man are you hoping will make the 2014 Olympic team?

Poll closed Jan 10, 2014.
  1. Max Aaron

    44 vote(s)
    20.7%
  2. Jeremy Abbott

    83 vote(s)
    39.0%
  3. Jason Brown

    111 vote(s)
    52.1%
  4. Stephen Carriere

    2 vote(s)
    0.9%
  5. Richard Dornbush

    20 vote(s)
    9.4%
  6. Joshua Farris

    10 vote(s)
    4.7%
  7. Grant Hochstein

    4 vote(s)
    1.9%
  8. Ross Miner

    7 vote(s)
    3.3%
  9. Brandon Mroz

    3 vote(s)
    1.4%
  10. Douglas Razzano

    3 vote(s)
    1.4%
  11. Adam Rippon

    128 vote(s)
    60.1%
  12. Other (Messing, Dolensky, ?)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    Pick TWO options only - honor system is in effect! ;) If you select "Other," please name the skater.

    I included everyone who competed as a senior internationally THIS fall plus Mroz because he was a past World team member (2009).

    Grrrr, I hate making typos, especially in a thread title - "man" obviously should be "men."
    ETA: Thank you to the FSU mod. who corrected my typo!
     
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  2. merrywidow

    merrywidow Well-Known Member

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    That's too hard, Sylvia. I guess I'd have to choose at this point, Max Aaron & Adam Rippon but I'd be thrilled to see Jason Brown or .... or .... or. We have so many deserving young men.
     
  3. bronwynsings

    bronwynsings Active Member

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    Adam Rippon and Jason Brown has been my dream U.S. men's team!
     
  4. olympic

    olympic Well-Known Member

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    Adam Rippon and Max Aaron
     
  5. orbitz

    orbitz Well-Known Member

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    Brown & Rippon
     
  6. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Sasha

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    Abbott & Razzano
     
  7. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    Rippon and Brown (or Aaron)
     
  8. miffy

    miffy Well-Known Member

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    Brown and either Aaron or Rippon :)
     
  9. Mrs. P

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    Any combination of Adam, Jason or Max is fine with me. Since I can only vote for two, I voted Jason and Max in the poll so I could boost Max's numbers. ;)

    That said, sort of surprised to see Jason have the highest number of votes so far. Or should I be surprised? As a fan, I'm delighted. :)
     
  10. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    I count 58 votes and 28 voters. Hmmmm. :shuffle: 'Fess up, who voted for more than 2 men? :lol:
     
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  11. misskarne

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    Any combination of Joshua, Max and Jason.

    After careful consideration, I think I'll go with Max and Joshua, for the pure reason that they have already had serious injuries, and Jason has not, making Jason's career potentially longer.
     
  12. paskatefan

    paskatefan Well-Known Member

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    Max & Adam

    Hoping that Ross Miner has a good experience @ Nats!
     
  13. Cyn

    Cyn Well-Known Member

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    Abbott and Rippon. If I had to pick only one of those two, it would be Abbott.
     
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    Abbott and Mroz. Sadly, I don't think either will make it. Abbott and Rippon would be my second pick. Rippon has a good chance.
     
  15. immoimeme

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    Jason Brown needs to be seen by the world!!!!
     
  16. Primorskaya

    Primorskaya Well-Known Member

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    Adam & Jason. This is the first time Abbot's not on my list, but those two have been thrilling me this season and he hasn't.
     
  17. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Sasha

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    Both my picks are sentimental picks. Nobody said it had to be logical. I really want Abbott to have a Paul Wylie moment in Sochi, and I really want our local boy Doug Razzano to make the Olympic team this year.
     
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    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Sasha

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    The world will have lots of opportunities to see Jason, I think. He is only 18.
     
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  19. missing

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    I voted for Brown and Farris because it's really helpful for men skaters to have Olympic experience before going into the Olympics at the peak of their careers.

    Of the American men who are now seniors, I see Brown and Farris as being most likely to be at the top internationally four years from now (besides, I really like both of them).
     
  20. Jessiebanana

    Jessiebanana Well-Known Member

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    Brown and Rippon are the only two options for me. I certainly wouldn't want Jason to feel any pressure, but I think the experience will do him good, especially if he proves himself to be a medal contender next go round.

    Max Aaron embodies everything I dislike in terms of style...or lack there of and Jeremy is a head case and I can't have any real hope for him anymore.
     
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  21. Jessiebanana

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    I agree and disagree. I think I might be too jaded to believe that any one person can help improve the popularity of US skating, but I certainly don't think it hurts to have someone as charismatic and talented represent us. I think people also get more attached to athletes they've watched develop, so yes while he has many years, I don't think it's a bad thing to put him out there as long as it's done right. Also, nothing is guaranteed in life. He could have an injury at some point, that shortens his career. I think he should get every opportunity he deserves to to achieve as much as he can.
     
  22. pinky166

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    They are both great, but do you really want to send 2 skaters who don't have stable 3axels? It's entirely possible that if Jason and Adam were the team, that there wouldn't be one clean 3a landed between the 2 of them in 2 programs. Neither has landed 2 clean 3axels in their FS in any of their international events this season. Not to say the rest of their skating isn't great, it is, and Adam is having some success with his quads, but I would feel safer having at least one strong technician on the Olympic team - someone like Max or Joshua. Besides the questionable 3axels, neither Rippon or Brown are particularly great jumpers in general and the risk of URs and meek GOEs on jump elements for them is higher than for some others. I know they can make a lot up in spins and steps, but skaters like Joshua or Richard are strong spinners too and have better jumps, even Max's spins are fine and Jeremy is stronger artistically than anyone and while his jumps are hit or miss, at least his 3a is stronger and more consistent than those of Rippon or Brown.
     
  23. bronwynsings

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    I would totally back having Max on the team as a strong technician and then one of Adam and Jason, but Max hasn't been the consistent quad machine he was last year. At Skate America, he looked incredibly shaky and I was shocked he came out with a medal at all. Adam and Jason have been far more consistent, and with Jason it's a matter of nerves with his 3A- in his junior worlds skate from earlier this year his 3As were very high and nice, unlike the ones at Skate America where he was having issues with nerves. My main argument with having a team of Jason and Adam is that Jason has been extremely consistent with his SP, it's been very quality and consistent throughout the season and this would help in the team event greatly. Adam has a very strong LP too, and he seems to be getting much better with his quads. Having Jason skate the SP and Adam skate the LP seems like it would be a really good idea for a team event IMO.
     
  24. judgejudy27

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    I guess from a logical perspective it would make sense to send one technician and one artist or complete package. So from that perspective maybe a good idea to send whichever of Aaron, Miner, or Farris skates better at Nationals, and then give the spot to whichever of Abbott, Rippon, Dornbush, Brown skates better. Then on another side as the U.S doesnt probably have any real medal hopes this year, maybe best to send someone who might be around for 2018. That would probably rule out Abbott, and possibly rule out Rippon or Miner (well the latter two might be around then but I doubt they will be World contenders or much stronger than they are now).
     
  25. jlai

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    I'm still in shock that Sylvia started a US nationals poll. :)
     
  26. Sylvia

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    ^^^ So am I! ;)
     
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    Rippon and Brown
     
  28. Sasha'sSpins

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    Adam and Jason!!
     
  29. Finnice

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    Adam Rippon and Jason Brown. I love Abbott, too, but Adam and Jason even more.
    Rippon is also Mr. FinniceĀ“s biggest favourite. If he would skate at the Olys, Mr. Finice would watch with me.:swoon:
     
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  30. Primorskaya

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    pinky and judgejudy, I'd get behind the "one artist, one technician" argument if there was such a thing as a super reliable technician among US men. There isn't. Aaron and Miner have absolutely nothing to prop them up if their jumps desert them, Brown and Rippon have plenty.

    It's just my wish anyway, Nats will decide. There's no point trying to peer too far into the future. Anything could happen in the next quadrennial. Jason is young, but anyone can get a career-ending injury (Skategods please don't hear this!), you can't ever know if "right now" isn't the only chance a skater might have. They can't afford to hold back, calculate and speculate...
     
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