If there is a similar thread elsewhere, I apologize in advance (the search function is not working for me). I am very interested to get the perspective of skaters, parents and coaches for their thoughts on when it is time for a skater to move on to a new coach. More specifically, I think everyone knows when it is obvious, such as either the skater or coach is not showing up or isn't really trying, or the skater is not paying. Instead, what about the more subtle situation where skater and coach are each putting in the effort, but the fire seems to be gone, or there are more and more strategic/creative differences, or more disagreements on goals/timing or even cultural differences are starting to become a bigger issue. The type of situation where there is nothing specific to point at to justify a change, but at the same time you are no longer happy with it. If it is not obvious, I feel like our family is approaching such a situation. Adding to the dilemma is that these are coaches we have been with for many years, from our first MIF test through several appearances at Junior Nationals, and they are generally regarded as the best in the rink, if not the area. So just switching to another coach is not an appealing, nor is picking up the family to move to be close to another coach. Thus, I would greatly appreciate hearing the thoughts and experiences of others of how they knew they had reached the point that they needed to move to another (lesser/unknown) coach or relocate to be with a new coach.