When (and where) in the world is Worlds? Update: MOSCOW! 4/24-5/1/11

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  1. danceronice

    danceronice Corgi Wrangler

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    Be fair, compared to most things in a budget for a country the size of Russia? This isn't exactly breaking the bank.

    Iceland sounds rather exciting too. But I nth giving a :cheer2: for the federations willing to make it happen, wherever it ends up.
     
  2. kia_4EverOnIce

    kia_4EverOnIce New Member

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    wow, hope Speedy can also think at worlds sometimes, he's so busy on phone with Hersh! :lol:

    Seriously, the deadline for the application is that evening.
    In CET time now it's early afternoon..so, until now who's in? Russia (Moscow) and US (LP/CS) only? with Canada and Finland likely to join, right?
     
  3. Polymer Bob

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    In the other thread, Iceman posted the ISU requirements for a new venue. The 5th requirement was :

    5. A TV production for the entire event and availability of the signal free of charge to ISU and its TV right holders

    I don't recall which event it was, but last year, there was a competition where each skater's performance was up on YouTube before the next skater left the ice. :eek:
     
  4. BittyBug

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    Somehow, I doubt Obama is going to be expressing his support for this event (not that there's anything wrong with that, LOL). I would guess that with Putin's stated endorsement, the deal is sealed for Moscow, which would be fabulous. I think they're the only ones who actually have a chance of potentially filling the stands on short notice, which would be nice for the competitors.
     
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  5. millipied

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    Alexander Gorshkhov, President of Russian Figure Skating Federation:
    http://www.championat.ru/other/news-765546.html
     
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  6. SamuraiK

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    Im already rooting for the russian bid even though I have zero chance of making it there. This could be a big push in exposure for their skaters and momentun till Sochi.:rollin:
     
  7. marbri

    marbri Hey, Kool-Aid!

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    Fwiw nobody was suggesting Iceland. That person was just talking about flights to Halifax from Europe ;)
     
  8. millipied

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    BTW, if anyone cares, Putin's comments were televised on national TV. Here is the link, just click on video button.
    http://newsru.com/sport/22mar2011/bless.html
    He has a meeting with Mutko, Russian Minister of Sports, not sure if it was already planned ahead or specifically called to discuss the Worlds issue. After Putin makes his comments, Mutko informs him that he is going immidiately call Ottavio Cinquanta. :)
     
  9. Karen-W

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    Obama's too busy visiting South America and worrying about his NCAA brackets to care about figure skating. Now, if only Condi were still Sec'y of State, we'd have someone in our corner, lol.

    I think Colorado Springs would have a relatively decent shot at filling the stands on short notice. The city is hard-wired to support the Olympic movement and they'd turn out to support an event like a re-scheduled/moved Worlds.
     
  10. Iceman

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    Historically, when you add all the threads on this (older ones were closed and a new one started) , is this the longest thread ever on FSU? It is getting difficult to remember what you (meaning me lol) said or didn't say or wanted to say and maybe did or didn't say
    or intended to say, but did or didn't (I'm starting to have dreams about this thread).......:eek:
     
  11. victoriaheidi

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    Oh, my gosh, I remember that...yeah, it makes the requirement for the TV signal seem somewhat outmoded.
     
  12. Sylvia

    Sylvia Bring on the JGP & Sr B comps!

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    Putin's offer has made CNN.com: Russia offers to host skating championship instead of Japan
    Reuters newswire article: Moscow bids to host world championships
     
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  13. Frau Muller

    Frau Muller President of Dick Button Appreciation Club

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    Latest updates, via Phil Hersh's tweets.

    First, this English-lang article from Finland, in which Finland Fed President Susanna Rahkamo offers some interesting information. For example, Finland was ASKED by the ISU to submit a quote...suggesting that theirs is NOT a serious proposal but, rather, something to make the bidding legitimate, if a minimum number of bids are required.

    Between the lines, Rahkamo lets on that Finland received a wish from abroad - in other words from the ISU - to enlist as a candidate.

    Rahkamo also lets it slip that the dates for Worlds have been determined (week of April 24/May 1...which happens to be the week proposed by Moscow):

    The World Figure Skating Championships are now rescheduled for April 24 – May 1.

    Link to full article:
    http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Fi...ld Figure Skating Championships/1135264815751

    Next, here is Phil's Tweet, on the Putin Push for Moscow's bid:

    olyphil Philip Hersh
    Done deal? Putin now pushing Moscow as sub host for world figs. He got 2014 Winter Games, 2018 World Cup for Russia. http://bit.ly/eEA7Q9
     
  14. IceIceBaby

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    When will the bidding time end? In couple of hours? So it's only Russia and US so far...
     
  15. Eislauffan

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    I have no doubts that the Russians can pull it off. They seem to be really interested, now with even Putin supporting the bid. Don't think any other prime minister would get involved (but then, most other countries don't mix sports and politics as much as the Russians do). Anyway, they realize that it is a good opportunity for them to expose their skaters, to support figure skating in their country, to look good in the eyes of the skating world as they help in a time of need.
     
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    Obama is at war right now somehow I don't think figure skating is on the radar for him.

    I think Russia will get it. Canada doesn't really want it as we have 2013 worlds.
     
  17. marbri

    marbri Hey, Kool-Aid!

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    So it looks like the only two serious candidates were the US and Russia. Finland doesn't really want them and Canada has also said they didn't want them but those two will likely throw in bids to make the process legit.

    Russia is getting government support and seem really keen and eager but I´ll hold off on the :cheer: so as not to jinx them ;)
     
  18. Frau Muller

    Frau Muller President of Dick Button Appreciation Club

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    Ah....I'm not so sure that Colorado Springs may not be the leading contender.

    Both US and Russia have cumbersome entry-visa requirements, true. USA has Homeland Security rules making it tough to gain entry visa. But have any of you tried to go to Russia as an independent tourist, avoiding the expensive hotels? It's very tough to do. If you try to stay with friends (a 'home stay') you are almost treated like criminal, having to register with the OVIR (immigrations police) within 48 hours of arrival -- usually taking a full day of bribing your way from office to office, so forget seeing any skating on that day. If you go the expensive-hotel route, you have to prove that you've paid the hotel in full, by including the Hotel Voucher/Receipt as part of the visa-application process.

    A key to selection of the Worlds venue will be which country -- USA or Russia -- is willing to relax its visa rules for skaters, coaches and officials...cause it "ain't gonna happen" for ordinary fans, I fear.
     
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  19. marbri

    marbri Hey, Kool-Aid!

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    So arrive a day earlier :D

    Is it any easier the other direction?
     
  20. pani

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    Why Moscow didnt work so hard to get WCh before? They wasnt inteersting in this before, but now they even have government support.
    This will be greate fro Russian skaters - this is really greate and will be greate for Natale-Peshalat - Fabien Bourzat, if WCh will be in Megasport - there traning base :p But i wish Russain Figure skating federation and goverment care more about there skaters, not only in such critical situation for all World and in futire work hard to have in Russia such a big competitions, like Europian championships, GPF, JWCh and hold one of the JGP competition.
     
  21. SamuraiK

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    Im trying not to gett too excited here but when the president and sport minister of one of the biggest skating countries are stating via national TV that they will handle all the expenses (read as "we will lose the money for you Ottavio"), I believe is a big no brainer for the ISU now.
     
  22. RD

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    I agree. I think Russia's all but got this one in the bag now. I'm just glad someone has chosen to step up and allow Worlds to go on. Kudos to the Russians.
     
  23. BittyBug

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    I think Russia would be the right choice, but I'm not terribly thrilled about it conflicting with Governing Council (for non-US posters - major convention for US Figure Skating). There better be wireless access in the meeting rooms. :drama:

    Pfft. The man needs to get his priorities straight. Skating first. All else second. :p
     
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  24. Frau Muller

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    My point is that a day is shot, leaving a bad feeling. Who wants to spend a day of his vacation pounding the hallways of a dark, creepy government office building...even AFTER having entered the country with your visa? For entry into the USA, the hassle occurs in the US consulate of your hometown/coountry, before you ever get on a plane. Once you enter the US with your visa, it's off to the hotel and a relaxing vacation!

    Regardless of this hassle....what matters most is that there will be a Worlds 2011 and Moscow is a great skating city. The local fans will be out there in full force and we will be delighted to cheer the skaters from home, via computer or TV.
     
  25. itsartemis

    itsartemis Enjoy your doron, Daisuke!

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    Does anybody know if there are any other big sporting events that Eurosport may have contracts with during that proposed week in April?

    Giro d'Italia and French Open which will be aired in full on Eurosport don't start until May 7th and May 17th respectively. Thank goodness.
     
  26. Sylvia

    Sylvia Bring on the JGP & Sr B comps!

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    I forgot about that! 2011 Governing Council dates are April 27-30 in Lombard, Illinois.
     
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    the italian eurosport commentator told me there *shouldn't* be problems regarding the broadcast
     
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    I appreciate Putin and Russians so much.
    I'd be happy to give a bronze medal to Bobrova & Solobiev as long as he doesn't feck up his twizzle.
     
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    Championship Tiddlywinks?
    Darts?
    Snooker?

    Who knows - with the amount of crap they have on Eurosport, they have managed to fill the skating slots pretty quickly (given the time difference I suspect most of the action would have been highlight anyway), so i'm sure they can clear some of their schedule for figure skating. Not sure about "live" but certainly highlights.
     
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