What were the first moves ever created in History for Pairs and Dance?

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  1. FSWer

    FSWer Well-Known Member

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    Say,does anyone know what the first moves ever created for both Pairs and Ice-Dance were? The ones the very first Team in both did?
  2. overedge

    overedge Well-Known Member

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    That goes back so far in history that I doubt there is any record of it.
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  4. DORISPULASKI

    DORISPULASKI Watching submarine races

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    In dance, a very early thing done was certainly, waltzing on ice. Jackson Haines (who was both a ballet dancer and a skater) is credited with teaching the Viennese to waltz on ice (He went to Vienna in 1864.)

    http://www.icestagearchive.com/haines.html

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/251854/Jackson-Haines

    The Polka followed soon after, I suspect, since Josef Strauss composed "Eislauf ('Ice-Skating') polka" op. 261 (1869)


    The idea of associating dance and ice is an old one:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Patineurs_(ballet)

    In 1849 Paul Taglioni composed a ballet "Les Plaisirs de l'Hiver, ou Les Patineurs"

    Ice dance did not have a world championships until 1952 and was not included in the Olympics until 1976.

    There were competitions held before that. I see that the Lake Placid Ice Dance Competition is celebrating its 80th year this year.

    www.ice-dance.com

    From the LPIDC announcement

    So all teams skate at the same time :eek: like old style public sessions. :cool:

    From their reference on the Fourteen Step:

    Here's what the steps were:
    http://www.ice-dance.com/images/stories/pdf/compulsory/Fourteenstep.pdf

    They include open mohawks, progressives, and swing rolls.

    Here it is, skated by a very young Virtue & Moir, with instruction by, I believe, Usova & Zhulin?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNAe5kysRiY&feature=relmfu

    The European Waltz is nearly as old. www.ice-dance.com lists it as being invented prior to 1900.

    http://www.ice-dance.com/images/stories/pdf/compulsory/EuropeanWaltz.pdf

    It includes left and right forward outside three turns,

    Here's the European Waltz with a very young Virtue & Moir.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvncVAD4MY8&feature=related

    The Kilian is quite old

    http://www.ice-dance.com/images/stories/pdf/compulsory/Kilian.pdf

    It includes steps which constitute an open choctaw, and crossrolls.

    Usova & Zhulin did an instructional video of the Kilian
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNAe5kysRiY&feature=relmfu

    Bestemianova & Bukin skate the Killian at the 1988 Olympics
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E6S5x_5eOY

    Other currently done pattern dances originated in the 1930's or later.
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  5. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    Am I remembering correctly that the first ice skates were actually animal bones tied to one's feet? I'm guessing these skates were made for transportation, but people realized that it could be for fun as well. Makes me wonder what kind of tricks they were able to perform with that type of skate! :eek:
  6. DORISPULASKI

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    While not "animal bone" skates, you could do the waltz, and you could do a "grapevine", a two footed set of moves.

    Here's closeup on roller skates
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhXDJ4htrI4

    You can see Brian Boitano doing a fancy take on one in his Les Patineurs SP 1988

    It is deliberately supposed to have a 19th, if not 18th, century feel
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me0RvshG1pY&feature=player_detailpage#t=90s

    His whole outfit and the cross armed poses are a take on this painting of

    Reverend Robert Walker (1755 - 1808) Skating on Duddingston Loch about 1795
    You'll note that his skates are strapped on to his boots.

    http://www.builth-hs.co.uk/e2603.html