What Makes "Sherlock" So Good?

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Cachoo, Feb 25, 2012.

  1. modern_muslimah

    modern_muslimah Thinking of witty user title and coming up blank

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    I watched all of season 1 on Netflix and then downloaded all of season 2 and I loved it! I was surprised because I'm not usually into mystery stories. I never watch Masterpiece Mystery. I've always shied away from Sherlock Holmes movies and shows because I always thought the stories would turn me off. However, this version is wonderful.
     
  2. Cachoo

    Cachoo Well-Known Member

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    The person I keep thinking about is Molly Hooper. What was that exchange all about with Sherlock in the lab? And Molly once thought Moriarty was her boyfriend. Of course he was posing as a coworker with an alias last season before Sherlock knew who Moriarty was (or at least what he looked like.) How has Molly survived Moriarty's evil? Was she just some insignifigant rube to Moriarity? Actually Sherlock treats her the same way. Just some thoughts...
     
  3. skatesindreams

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    Last night's episode was mind-blowing.
    So much to think about: Mycroft's actions, the nature of friendship/trust, the lengths we will go to protect those we love.
    I can't find the words to describe how heartrendingly great Martin Freeman was.

    The wait for the next series will be excruciatingly long.
     
  4. Vagabond

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    Which is the answer to Cachoo's original question, in my opinion, at least.

    What makes Sherlock so good is that it wholeheartedly explores the nature of an emotional friendship between two men. We see lots of buddy stories and even some gay romance, but very little of this.
     
  5. Artemis@BC

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    Yes! Coincidentally, in the retrospective of House last night before the series finale, they drew parallels between Holmes-Watson and House-Wilson, and it's a connection I've commented on before. The House-Wilson relationship is pretty much the only reason I kept watching House, and the Holmes-Watson relationship is one of the best things about Sherlock.

    (Also coincidentally,
    House fakes his own death in the House finale
    ...)
     
  6. gkelly

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    I doubt it's pure coincidence if the original Holmes stories continue to serve as a source of inspiration.
     
  7. maureenfarone

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    I thoroughly enjoyed Sherlock. Loved the season finale. I'm going to order season 1 from amazon. Thanks for the info on the UK vs US versions of the DVD.

    Does anyone know the name of the actor who introduced the show? He looks so familiar but I just can't put a name on him. He has short dark hair an talked about the episode before they got to the thank you for contributing to PBS.
     
  8. jeffisjeff

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    Was it Alan Cumming, AKA Eli Gold from The Good Wife? We love him! :swoon:
     
  9. kwanfan1818

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    Somethings wrong with my PVR (grrr), but the actor who introduced the first two is Alan Cumming, and he now plays Eli Gold on "The Good Wife."
     
  10. Artemis@BC

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    I <3 Alan Cumming big-time. And PBS's decision to have him host/introduce Mystery almost makes up for them screwing up their aspect ratio.

    Though it's very hard for me to decide between his Eli Gold persona ... and any situation where he speaks to me (yes, just me!) in his natural Perthshire brogue. :swoon:

    I guess it would have been just wrong from Eli to be Scottish ...
     
  11. danceronice

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    It's definitely not any sort of coincidence in that case, "House" was explicitly Holmes and Watson (House and Wilson? It's even in the name...)

    And I think it's pretty clear what the exchange with Molly at the end was about. Two things: 1. I can't think of anyone else to set up the fake "Mrs. Hudson's been shot" call to get Watson out of there and 2.
    Molly's a pathologist/M.E. Sherlock needs to be dead to the world CONVINCINGLY. Who better to help? Notice that when John runs for him before being knocked down by the cyclist, there's a laundry cart between him and Sherlock, when he recovers and reaches the body, it's gone. I bet Molly helped him pull off the switch and 'identified' the remains.
     
  12. Cachoo

    Cachoo Well-Known Member

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    Thanks danceronice---I'm looking forward to the artful way they will relay all of this info regarding Sherlock's last moments.
     
  13. znachki

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    Pretty much think something along those lines too. If you go back and watch the first episode of the second series, I think you also see that the newspaper has a story about renovations at the hospital, and I bet that plays into it as well.
     
  14. skatesindreams

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    She's a part of his very small "trusted network" , surely.
     
  15. Peaches LaTour

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    Yes, we understand that.:rolleyes:
     
  16. Peaches LaTour

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    He was recently on Piers Morgan and his physical appearance was :eek::eek:

    Oh, and will there be anymore Sherlock episodes???
     
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  17. skatesindreams

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  18. Cachoo

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    Oh that is too long to wait. I sure wouldn't mind seeing a feature length film with this "Sherlock" as opposed to the other crew. That it is gorgeously filmed even comes across on my little tv screen. Just think of it at our local, awesome theater with their sound system and huge screens. Heaven.
     
  19. skatesindreams

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    If Cumberbatch and Freeman weren't so "in demand" for other projects, due to the success of "Sherlock", the wait wouldn't be as long.
    Great for them, yet maddening for us; especially for viewers in the US.
     
  20. Artemis@BC

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    ^ Small consolation: both seasons of Sherlock are worth re-watching. I know I've picked up things on repeat viewings that I missed the first time around.

    (BTW, does anyone have the BluRay versions? Just wondering if there are any choice extras that make them worthwhile.)

    And hey ... just happened to stumble across this, don't think it was posted earlier: The Blog of Dr. John Watson. (The hit counter is still stuck at 1895 ... :D)
     
  21. skatesindreams

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    I'd like to know that before I order, as well.
     
  22. Artemis@BC

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    ^ Ok, I just read the descriptions/reviews over at DVDTalk, and it looks like the BluRay content is identical to the DVD. So, given that it's TV and not a movie, given that BluRay would only emphasize the "conversion glitches" from the other side of the pond ... and given that I've never noticed more than infinitesimal difference between DVD & BluRay quality, I'll be going DVD.
     
  23. znachki

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    So, here is another preview of Elementary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff-XiZzJLxw&feature=player_embedded I'm still feeling quite ambivalent about it.

    There are a few times in this when something he say, or the way he acts just doesn't seem right. It's very similar to the way I feel about the Gwenyth Paltrow version of Emma. Just the way something is phrased or something. Hard to explain.
     
  24. Cachoo

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    I do think they are trying to put together a fine show with "Elementary." For me it makes me think of the 60 Minutes interview when Paul Newman mortified his wife when asked why he didn't cheat on her and he replied something like "Why go out for hamburger when you have steak at home?" But for me this fits here. I think the "Sherlock" we love will be considered one of the greatest of all mystery series. And maybe mystery is too limiting. "Elementary" will always pale in comparison and I won't be able to watch it without making comparisons.
     
  25. skatesindreams

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    I fear that "Elementary" will be only a poor imitation.
    As though I need more reasons to appreciate "Sherlock"!
     
  26. dinakt

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    I have not watched 'Sherlock" on TV, but just purchased two seasons on Amazon prime. Thank you FSU for getting it on my radar. I am obsessed, addicted and in love. The best rendition of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson, amazingly true to the spirit of the books. The acting, the writing, the cinematography- all stunning. Having to wait for two years till season 3 is painful- I better be looking out for something just as good to drive it away.
     
  27. Cachoo

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    Best Actor in a Movie/Miniseries
    Benedict Cumberbatch - "Sherlock" - PBS/ "Sherlock" was nominated as well for a "Critics Choice" award. Does awards season ever end? And alas Martin Freeman was not mentioned.... But I'm happy for the show and Cumberbatch.
     
  28. dinakt

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    Martin Freeman got the Best Supporting Actor in British BAFTA Awards, while Cumberbatch was nominated but did not win- so the two seem to split the awards pretty evenly. Both are such great actors.
     
  29. Cachoo

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    Well I'm glad to read that as Freeman's Dr. Watson is so interesting. And ita about Cumberbatch!
     
  30. skatesindreams

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    I'm glad that Martin Freeman is receiving such well-deserved praise.

    I hope that viewers and critics alike realize that his portrayal would not be nearly as effective; except for the equally amazing, masterful performance by Benedict Cumberbatch in the title role.