What do I wear?...the sequel

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by PRlady, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Port de bras!!!

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    FML. That's it. It's either HRT or a boob job. :drama: No wonder Traditional Chinese Medicine no longer considers you a woman after the age of 49. They don't mince words, do they...
    arble loss drug trial. :shuffle:
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  2. Jenya

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    My mom did it 15 years ago - she is quite petite (5'2") and her chest just overwhelmed her. She had severe back and shoulder pain and just decided to do it. She was so happy that she did it, and I don't think the recovery was that bad - it was an outpatient procedure as I remember and she was back up and around in no time. Her quality of life improved quite a bit, her clothes fit better, and the pain was gone - totally worth it, IMO.

    ETA: and her insurance did cover it, I think it normally will in cases of chronic pain.
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  3. *Jen*

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    Easy. The band is too big in a 34, the cup is too small in the 32D. Try going back to a 32DD. Just because a woman with a measuring tape told you to wear a 34D does NOT mean it's right. Watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jk55ep4XUQ&feature=share

    It's not BS. Most women ARE wearing the wrong sized bra. There's an incorrect assumption in the US that if you're over a D, you're huge. Not so. I wear a US women's size 8, yet I'm in a 30 band and it's not too small. There are a whole range of reasons why bra sizing has changed, mainly to do with the fabric, but stores like Victoria's Secret still have no clue. The video is long, but worth it.
  4. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Port de bras!!!

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    Yes, insurance does cover reduction if it's for medical reasons. These are the only ones I am familiar with working with chronic pain. It's a bit more involved than a typical augmentation--I've watched both live several times back when I was in research.
  5. cruisin

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    No yelling from me either. I would do it too, if I were't such a chicken, and it wasn't so expensive. I have permanent dents in my shoulders. But mine are more deflated now. The breast tissue is probably a small C cup. the excess skin turns them into Ds. Sorry if that's too graphic. I just want mine back on my chest! :lol:

    I wear Wacoal too, very good support.
  6. PRlady

    PRlady aspiring tri-national

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    See, that's it. (We need a subset discussion here for Women of a Certain Age.) At what point are you fixing something that really can and should be fixed -- and at what point are you fighting time? Natural growth/saggage to me is not something for which I should choose major surgery. It's like the line I draw between Juvederm (ouch but minor) and a facelift (major ouch, not minor, not accepting natural progression.)
  7. Anita18

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    That's EXACTLY what happened to me! :rofl: I swear I have nothing more than mosquito bites on my chest and had been wearing A/AA's all my life, until I decided to get fitted properly before my friend's wedding (I was bridesmaid). 32B. I was like, NO. WAI. :eek: The fitting lady laughed and assured me, "You have breasts, girl!" :lol:

    Turns out that I am a flat and wide B. I don't stick out very much, but cup size seems to go by how wide your boobs are over your ribcage. The only 32Bs I've recently found that fit me best are Gilly Hicks pushups. :) Generally I can only fill out the pushup bras, because otherwise there's a ton of air in the cups. But if I go to an A, it pulls at the boob tissue underneath my armpits. One can never win even if you know your correct size. :drama:

    My best friend weighs 115lbs, is SUPER-small framed (weighs more than I do but has a smaller waist)...and is a 30F after getting sized by the same people who did me. :shuffle: She is also flat and wide across so I guess there isn't as much mass there as there should be...but still! :yikes:

    She hasn't complained about pain. Yet. But poor woman can't go braless even when she sleeps.

    My mom is an AA, too. IF that. Actual mosquito bites on that woman. :lol: I'm not sure how much bigger she was before, though, although I know she was able to breastfeed us waaay back when. We are just small-breasted folk. :p And she doesn't have any interest in cleavage-baring clothing, or even clothing that shows off how thin she is, so I don't think it bothers her much, if at all.

    If one is concerned about one's attractiveness to the opposite sex, my solution is to find a man who likes your assets. My ex-bf was a boob man. I do not have any. Alf (Anita's Loveable Fiance :lol: ) is a butt man. And lemme tell you, I'm a whole lot happier with him than with ex-bf. :lol:
  8. Zemgirl

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    A friend of mine had a reduction a few years ago for medical reasons. I never asked what her cup size was before but it must have been very big, and she's not tall. It wasn't as simple a procedure as Jenya describes, but she's so happy with her smaller breasts, not having to deal with awful back pain, etc., that it was definitely worth it to her. If this eventually feels like the right decision, I don't think anyone else's opinion should matter.
  9. made_in_canada

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    I can't speak from personal experience, but I've known 3 or 4 women that have had it done and all are very happy with their smaller breasts.
  10. IceAlisa

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    Natori is featured in the immigrant success story on yahoo: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/7-self-made-immigrant-millionaires.html?page=1

    Yay for Natori!

    Also features Sergei Brin of Google teaming up with DVF:
    Yay for Brin! Although I am not sure we need sunglasses that text.
  11. Twilight1

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    Boob non-violent I think about getting it done myself... still weighing the pros and cons of it.

    Hubby and decided instead of going nuts for xmas we are just going to buy what we need/ want. I need clothes so that is my xmas gift this year.

    Any colours really big this season? Lol
  12. PRlady

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    Teal. Purple. I actually have black shoes I bought last winter with tasteful little teal and purple insets along the sides so I'm set. ;)
  13. cruisin

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    Green is also very big this year. Especially emerald and hunter. Burgundy was very big last year and continues to be.
  14. Twilight1

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    Yay! Green looks fab on me with my red highlights. I also like teal and purple is my husbands fave colour.
  15. PRlady

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    Thanks to everyone for contributing thoughts and experiences. I will continue to mull it over.

    My stepsister had the surgery, but she had complications. She has already had open-heart surgery which means they had to maneuver around the scar tissue, she got an infection, it really took six months to recover. I'm thinking that is not the norm, at least I hope so.
  16. IceAlisa

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  17. cruisin

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    Nay! I don't mind the top.but the skirt? :eek:
  18. PRlady

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  19. Twilight1

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    I love the top too but definitely no to the bottom.
  20. skatesindreams

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    Ditto!
    Tasteless.
  21. myhoneyhoney

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    Ick. Nay! And I'm not afraid to show skin... but when people see your undies without a wardrobe malfunction... ick!
  22. made_in_canada

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    Nay. Maybe I'm a prude but showing your underwear (or the illusion of underwear) is never appropriate and tacky. Ugh. Dakota Fanning's dress however is :swoon:
  23. cruisin

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    Totally love Christian Serratos dress (photo # 33)! I looks like Zac Posen, but they don't say.
  24. my little pony

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    you know i'm voting yay because for once she looks like she has had a shower and isnt on her way to a soup kitchen for a free meal. would i like the dress on someone who didnt often look they had a standing appt at a meth lab? no. but baby steps people. thanks for using a comb and soap kstew.
  25. IceAlisa

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    If I were to give her a yay, it would be for this. Very chic and full evidence of decent personal hygiene.
  26. NancyNC

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    Late chiming in on the breast reduction surgery, but I think it is something that can change your life based on the comments of friends who have had it done. My best friend back home was 5'1" and was around a G cup, had reduction because of the chronic neck/back pain and has never regretted it. A co-worker had breast reduction surgery at a fairly young age (30) for the same reason of pain and may have had an even greater benefit from it. She was diagnosed with breast cancer 1.5 years ago (34 years old), she found the lump initially on a self exam. She was not at the age for a baseline mammogram and didn't have any risk factors that would require one. She ended up having the type of breast cancer that genetically has an extremely high recurrence rate and she opted for a double mastectomy. She was bemoaning the "wasted money" of the breast reduction surgery and the oncologist told her that the surgery may have saved her life because the tumor would likely have gone undetected until it was much larger and with a greater chance of having already metastasized.
  27. Twilight1

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    Wow- loooooooooove that dress! I would totally wear that! Lol!
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    I'm assuming that was a magazine shoot. So I would guess that the Harper's people picked out the outfit and cleaned and groomed her. Can't imagine her accomplishing that by herself.

    (ETA, totally off-topic--so glad this is the last Twilight. Maybe she will go away now)
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  29. Twilight1

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    I am too... I truly hope no one thinks my name came from that movie series... I was Twilight1 since 1999... lol!
  30. PRlady

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    I never knew my Sexy Divorced Coworker had the surgery, in her early thirties. A mutual friend told me yesterday, I headed down the hall to ask SDC about it. She closed the door, pulled up her shirt and bra and provided me with a first-hand look. :rofl: (I love this coworker.)

    The scars are certainly there but what nice small perky boobs she has, and her body is nicely balanced. I have an appointment with an orthopedist after T'giving to talk about the upper back and neck pain; I'll see what happens after that but will certainly consult with a reduction specialist, then make up my mind.

    Back to clothing. This was supposed to be a very low-shopping fall, but losing seven pounds meant that more than half of my slacks don't fit. I've quickly purchased four new pairs in various cheapie places and on sale. Maybe it's just as well I lost no weight up top, then I'd have to replace shirts and jackets too. Meaning that surgery would cost a LOT in the long run in replacement clothing!
  31. cruisin

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    Yes, but think of all of the fun you'd (we'd) have doing that! :)

    I'm jealous of your courage. I wish I was not so chicken. I have felt bad about that part of myself for decades. And I get blisters on my shoulders, when it's really hot, from straps rubbing. But, my OCD side is worried that I'd gain weight if I couldn't walk my 3 miles, the next day.
  32. PRlady

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    I don't have OCD, just your usual vain middle-aged woman's weight obsession and believe me it occured to me what would happen without being able to exercise for weeks. I gained a few pounds from foot surgery immobilization two years ago....

    Now that I know myfitnesspal works, however, however slowly, I'm more likely to risk it.
  33. cruisin

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    Can I get my neck done at the same time? :lol: And, can we go to an outpatient place, I don't like hospitals. :eek:
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    Sorry, double post.
  35. IceAlisa

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    PRLady, if your neck and low back pain are related to your breast size, than your reduction would be a medical procedure and therefore, should be covered by your insurance.


    Oh absolutely. No way she could have put herself together that well. Or her stylist for that matter. And yes, I hope this is the last of her in movies. Meh.
  36. Norlite

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    Just to chime in with another yay on the surgery. Best thing my sister in law ever did for herself.

    Unlike you, PRlady, she was a large girl, and hers just made her look even larger. Afterwards she looked wonderful, felt wonderful. OHIP did cover it because of her back pain, I think that's quite common.

    I've been thinking about a lift, myself.
  37. PRlady

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    What kind of lift?

    Nobody likes hospitals but this is major surgery and I ain't doing it in some storefront clinic. And if you find a twofer on neck tightening, man, I'll come to New Jersey and we can share a room!

    Today I'm wearing a rather form-fitting periwinkle blouse I bought in Israel and the aforementioned shoes with the teal-and-purple insets with a black pantsuit. (It's remotely possible I might have to do TV today.) You know how some days you look in the mirror and think, I look good? Usually not so many days? Today is one of those days. :)
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    I'd love to see a picture, if you don't appear on TV!
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  40. Norlite

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    Just a breast lift. Put the girls back where they belong.