Weaver and Poje their time is now

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by sliver98, Oct 22, 2011.

  1. spikydurian

    spikydurian New Member

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    Congrats to W&P for staring the season with strong skates. Wishing them all the best.
  2. Marta24

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    I have watched their FD at least ten times and I am still not tired of it. I was afraid that their Olympic FD could never be as good as Je suis malade, but I am so happy that they created such a special FD for the Olympic season. :swoon:

    The German Eurosport guys couldn't stop gushing about them. :lol:
  3. Excidra

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    I love love love W/P. They've got two great programs and their journey to Sochi started off with a huge stamp of approval from the judges. I can't wait see how these programs will build throughout the season. Canadian Nationals is going to be one exciting event.

    WTG W/P
  4. girlscouse62

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    I really can't see it happening, but I will be so unhappy if SC promotes G/P over W/V. IMHO they are not even in the same league.
  5. lauravvv

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    You mean W/P of course. But I don't think that it is even possible. After last season they must know that no matter how they promote G/P, they are not going to get such marks internationally - especially at the bigger competitions. Besides, Gilles doesn't have the Canadian passport/citizenship yet, and probably won't get it in time for Olympics. Even if she would get it, seems that Paul/Islam are better anyway, although they lack consistency.
  6. shan

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    I think G/P are a big question mark regardless of citizenship. I think Paul is healed and they are training. It will be interesting to see how they look given their lack of training time in the off season. Are they scheduled to compete in China this week?

    Edited to add: G/P will be at NHK and Rostelecom Cup in Russia.
  7. clarie

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    My take is that G/P will be in a battle for 3rd this year with P/I. W/P are way ahead of them now in every way. If Poirier had stayed with Crone, it might be a different story, but that's not the reality. W/P stand a very good chance of medalling in Sochi with those programs if all goes well......here's hoping!!!!
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  8. Emdee

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    I think third will be paul nd Islam
    They had a great free dance yesterday.
  9. clairecloutier

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    Prior to now, I've never been a huge fan of Kaitlyn & Andrew. I've appreciated their talents and liked some programs more than others, but wasn't completely sold on them. After Skate Canada, though, wow. They were amazing! They have really made a big leap forward with their skating this season. Both programs are absolutely wonderful, and they are skating them brilliantly already. Just a huge improvement over last season. As of now, I absolutely see them as podium contenders for Sochi.
  10. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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  12. Jeanne7

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    I've always thought Andrew was an outstanding skater but in the last couple of season Kaitlyn has improved SO much. She used to skate with slightly stiff knees but now has lovely soft knees, good edges and is way more confident. Great coaching obviously helps. LOVE this team - world champs very soon I'd say.
  13. nuge

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    I agree World Champs !
  14. rvi5

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    Kaitlyn and Andrew made the cover of the "24 hours" commuter newspaper, modeling the Canadian Olympic outfits.

    -Click on "calendar".
    -Select October.
    -Click on the 31st.
    -Click on the image to get a closeup view.

    http://eedition.toronto.24hrs.ca/epaper/viewer.aspx
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    Kaitlyn and Andrew made the cover of the "24 hours" commuter newspaper, modeling the Canadian Olympic outfits.

    -Click on "calendar".
    -Select October.
    -Click on the 31st.
    -Click on the image to get a closeup view.

    http://eedition.toronto.24hrs.ca/epaper/viewer.aspx

    Going to the Olympics was their initial dream. Having been so disappointed in 2010, they must be very excited now that it is within reach.
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    I agree !!
  18. tut88

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    Skate Canada has been a turning point for them, skating 2 beautiful and demanding programs already SO well !!
    I hope all will go well at CoR too, even if Bobrova at home will be unbeatable, anyway...
    I love this programs and I m really happy Pasquale and Angelika have worked well with them.
    Also Geoffrey Tyler sounds a special man ! Great team !
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    I think they are well liked and appreciated in Russia. So I have great hopes for them there. Their programmes are sound, the judges obviously liked them, and their marks for their first outing were stellar in comparison to Bobrova's first comp. I really hope that being on home ice doesn't help the Russians get inflated scores, but only the scores they deserve
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    I've watched both of their dances again and I'm really impressed .They look so polished and ready for so early in the season .They have an amazing chemistry as well and respect and they look like extremely hard workers.That was so evident after Kaitlyn's comeback so soon after injury last year :respec:I hope P/B win the bronze but if not I'll certainly be very happy for W/P to win and I'm sure they have a great future right at the top for sure .
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  22. girlscouse62

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    cheering and hoping for them as they skate at CoR this weekend. Does anyone have any practice footage?
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    This should be an exciting few weeks for them. They should win their first grand prix event, followed by their first ever grand prix final medal in a couple weeks, setting them up perfectly for the Sochi podium.
  24. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    We'll be cheering for them.
  26. girlscouse62

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    Thank you, Sylvia. I really enjoy that this music and progamme so different from most this season.
  27. Pratfall

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    Well, that was disgraceful..:mad:
  28. bunhead

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    Would you mind elaborating, Pratfall? Not everyone has access to whatever you're seeing.
  29. spikydurian

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    The scoring sucked big time ::mad: There's something very wrong here, and it had nothing to do with W/P's skating.
  31. Bailey_

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    Their scores were significantly lower than Skate Canada. They did not get several levels on their elements. Something seems really off...
  32. professordeb

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    *Something* has been off in ice dance for quite some time. Either
    1)use the rules the way they written and meant to be used
    2) modify the rules to what you want dance to become and ensure EVERYONE understands what everything means or they don't get to be on the tech panel/judge or
    3) take it the hell out of the Olympics.
  33. bunhead

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    It seems speed is being rewarded above all else in ice dance right now. Nevermind that speed can come at the expense of looking like they lack control or show weak posture. Even Eurosport commentators are lacking to me this season: they didn't even bother pointing out that BS' twizzles were far from perfect. This need-for-speed is reminding me of the Grishuk Platov days that made me hate ice dance. SAD.
  34. amy8

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    I too have noticed that speed is more important than footwork this year which is really against my preferences but I didn't like the era where theatrical poses were the big mark getters either. Is there ever a happy medium?
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    Tanith Belbin tried to be diplomatic but even she had to say she was "surprised" at the disparity between WP's and BS's TES marks. Has anyone looked at the protocols to see whether it's the tech panel, the judges or both who are putting in the fix?
  36. rustyskater

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    I know. It's crazy. I think WP are better than BS but . . . the judges say otherwise. Makes me sympathize with VM fans who feel judging is biased toward DW - they just can't believe DW deserve those scores! They believe in a fix. Thankfully, DW are in fact superior so there is, in fact, some validity in some judging.
  37. Cyn

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    The judging in the SD yesterday was beyond reproach, and W/P got the butt end of it :mad:.

    There's an interesting discussion about this going on in the Rostelecom Cup forum titled "From Russia With Politics." If you have access to it, SLIVER, who, IIRC, knows a good bit about the workings of the ISU/Judging/Federations (or some combination therein), has made some very interesting posts (one in particular about the Technical Caller for Dance at this competition) that are definitely worth checking out.
  38. Jessiebanana

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    I wish she would have been less diplomatic (I haven't actually heard her comments), I wish everyone would be less diplomatic. If everyone commenting that had access to a microphone and legitimate knowledge of ice dance, like Tanith, called this kind of behavior out on a regular basis, I think it could make a difference.
  39. Jessiebanana

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    Speed + difficult clean footwork is incredibly difficult and should be awarded, but anyone (and by anyone I mean elite skaters, not me) can fly sloppily around the ice.
  40. Pratfall

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    Oh, I posted that comment right after the SD and ran off to kick something. I don't want to transgress by getting into discussion here but that they were marked too low was only half the problem ..others were marked too high as well..

    Katalin Alpern is notorious,as far as I know , and has been involved in many controversial competitions over the years.

    If anyone has a link to the British Eurosport coverage , I'd love to see it . They were apparently very puzzled and surprised.

    We'll see what tomorrow brings...