Weaver and Poje their time is now

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by sliver98, Oct 22, 2011.

  1. sliver98

    sliver98 Banned Member

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    I have to bump this thread and say that Weaver and Poje were robbed of the gold at NHK their FD was breathtaking, the Shibs were their usual boring crap self skating to the same thing as last year, people say they are great technically thats because they are skating to the same thing as last year.
     
  2. pani

    pani Well-Known Member

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    W-P could win, but they had dedaction. So its OK.
    I hope they will take medal at GPF. It will in Canada hope this will help them. I like this two.
     
  3. Shayii

    Shayii Well-Known Member

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    I adore this team!! I love their SD and FD, I've already watched both like 3 times. I wanted them to win so bad at NHK but silver is good too, I hope they continue to do well!
     
  4. Rafter

    Rafter Well-Known Member

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    Andrew's twizzle mistake in the SD cost them the title.

    Their FD is really growing on me.
     
  5. clarie

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    Such a shame.......I was rooting for them. I hope they do better next time. Too bad about the twizzles.
     
  6. dinakt

    dinakt Well-Known Member

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    They were great in their FD in Japan.
    While I wish they had won, it's probably all good- they are competitive with super- clean Shibutanis even with a few mistakes; the scores are good and the year is young.
     
  7. tapper88

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    I thought they did really well!! It must be frustrating to be so close to gold though, and to have a deduction :(

    Does anyone know if Weaver/Poje are together? They sure make a cute couple, together or not. They're obviously really close!
     
  8. ~tapdancer~

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    Really a wonderful skate at NHK! Loved their passion and attack in their FD. They have improved so much and I can tell how hard they are working. Wishing them all the best. Just a beautiful couple.
     
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  10. Ziggy

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    It's extremely impressive how fast Weaver/Poje have been developing.

    They put down two extremely strong performances at 2011 Worlds, where I strongly believe they should have medalled.

    But I didn't care much about their programs last season.

    This season both programs are great. Voidy with tons of character. Thank god they are with Camerlengo who definitely can deliver on that front.

    SD is too open for my liking but at least it has heaps of Latin character, which can't be said about most SDs this season. ;)

    FD I wasn't too keen on at first but after they delivered this amazing performance at NHK, I've changed my mind. It's also a little open but it has tons of transitional movements all the time. It never stops, there are no empty spots, something is happening constantly.

    They just floored me. They look so polished for this early in the season.

    And technically they are so so good. Deep edges, extremely strong and effortless lifts.

    I am absolutely fuming that they didn't get the gold at NHK and by such a small margin too. :mad:

    They were just heads and shoulders above anyone else in the FD.

    I think they should have edged Shibutanis out on the GOE. Shibs definitely had the best twizzles but W/P were much stronger on the other elements, as far as quality of the execution is concerned.

    At least the judges went with them on the PCS.

    Must be so frustrating to be so close, especially knowing there was a silly lift deduction. Argh!
     
  11. shan

    shan Well-Known Member

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    Which lift received the deduction?
     
  12. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    The one that went over the time limit. :saint:

    You just made a great point.

    Before the next ISU congress, I'll suggest to the Ice Dance Technical Committee members to indicate that in the protocols.

    I guess the skaters can check that themselves on a recording but we can be talking tenths of a second here and simply marking it on a protocol somehow wouldn't be difficult to implement.
     
  13. tapper88

    tapper88 New Member

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    the link to the photos doesn't work :(
     
  14. shan

    shan Well-Known Member

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    :p
     
  15. nuge

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    I always wonder about couples.
    Going by their body language in the KNC I would say no they aren't together off ice.They seem formal Andrew didn't kiss her cheek just sort of shook her hand .JMO.
     
  16. allezfred

    allezfred Old and Immature Admin Staff Member

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    Plus the Shibutanis being overscored in PCS as usual.
     
  17. museksk8r

    museksk8r Holding an edge and looking dangerously sexy

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    You took the words right out of my mouth! In the past, I haven't really been sold by this team. I never could understand why so many were hypercritical of Crone/Poirier, who I found to be so much more interesting and unique/original, but so in awe of these two, but their FD skate at NHK is the first time that I see what those people saw. They really have come a LONG way and they have impressed me with this FD skate. I hope they can carry on the momentum from this performance and incorporate the same vibe into their future performances. Their packaging and the mood they convey throughout is very well done. They made me feel their love for skating and for each other, and for that I give thanks and cheers! Go Kaitlyn and Andrew! :cheer2::swoon:

    With all that said though, I really am not feeling their SD this year. I'm not a fan of their music choice nor of her outfit for this program. Last year I thought their SD was beautiful though and I didn't care for the Moulin Rouge FD, so it's a reversal of my feelings toward them this season. Still, here's wishing them well for the rest of the season! :)
     
  18. judgejudy27

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    Weaver & Poje were definitely robbed of the NHK gold. Probably the World bronze last year also. The Shibutanis are so overscored it is laughable. Technically they are reasonable, not great, and artistically they are dreadful. Where the judges pull their PCS out from I have no idea.
     
  19. museksk8r

    museksk8r Holding an edge and looking dangerously sexy

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    I think PCS too often is a reflection of TES in this sport. I think in the past Weaver + Poje have so often made very costly technical mistakes that have hampered their momentum and the judges have felt they are too inconsistent and unreliable. I think once Kaitlyn and Andrew continue to put out performances like their FD at NHK and build on that performance level and steadily and repeatedly put out those types of performances without the silly technical mistakes that are so prone to happen with these two, then their PCS will be where they want them to be.
     
  20. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    I hope so. Hopefully the Shibutanis PCS also go where they should be at some point (down the drain until they improve significantly).
     
  21. mirage

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    Totally agree! Yes W/P made a mistake but still should have been waaaaay ahead of S/S.
     
  22. DimaToe

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    I love W/P and I would have liked to see them win NHK gold, but maybe the judges were sending a message to Kaitlyn we'd all like heard...Fix that Strap!!!:slinkaway
     
  23. sliver98

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    They were clearly pissed in the K&C too Carmelengo was nodding his head thankfully the US will not have a judge on the panel at worlds this year and Canada will have two other commonwealth countries helping them Australia and Great Britain:D
     
  24. Pratfall

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    They probably felt they had the count right on that lift.:(
     
  25. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    That's a given. Shibs actually presented their program really well and showed a lot of expression (in the form of cutsie-pootsie smiles :p) but it wasn't anywhere as complex as W/P's and although their skating was light, they didn't show the same depth of edges.

    What really bothered me this time was their GOE. In the FD anyway, where other than the twizzles, their elements weren't performed particularly well but still they got the protocol +2s (or +1s) all round.

    W/P, on the other hand, really nailed it on the elements.
     
  26. OrioleBeagle

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  27. clarie

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    I hope they can skate this beautiful program clean this weekend and can beat out the Russians....I think they are the better team, but then again....numerous factors come into play in this competition unfortunately. Good luck to them....they deserve it.:)
     
  28. nuge

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  29. JoSmiley

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    Agreed. Fix. That. Strap. ;)
     
  30. Pratfall

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    :lol: The Strap ??!!?? :lol:

    This is sooooo silly . My goodness, we've seen costumes that look practically naked , costumes that have so much stuff poking out , hanging down , flapping around, that you can hardly tell if there's a skater inside them.

    We've had costumes featuring ping pong balls, hula hoops, cone bras , breast-clinging spiders , panels that rip away to expose bleeding sequin hearts, giant crucifixes..not to mention all the half-this-half that travesties ( fondly known in my household as " half-a***d costumes )..

    Hey, we've even had genuine costume malfunctions.

    Now here comes a beautiful girl in a simple little dress designed to look like a slip. Gorgeous colour, beautifully cut , modest by skating standards , but gives the illusion ..of what ? Not that she's bare breasted , not that she wears no panties..as has been done by some in the past..but the illusion that one strap is off the shoulder ( which does add to the feeling of desperation and distraction she's trying to convey )...and people are calling for a costume deduction ?...:rofl:...what fans.

    On another note , thanks for the practice vid...looking good.

    ETA ; I was just thinking ... Kaitlyn and Andrew should wear these costumes for an exhibition number to Bonnie Raitt's " Let's Give Them Something to Talk About. " ;)
     
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