Weaver and Poje their time is now

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  1. Macassar88

    Macassar88 Well-Known Member

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    From what I've gathered, Andrew is bringing Kaitlyn, a statue, to life and dancing with her then restoring her. But I don't think they've disclosed their story.
  2. Macassar88

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    It's from the League of Extraordinary Dancers
  3. Emdee

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    I like this program a lot - it needs mileage and complexity for them to get on the podium.

    I have always loved Andrew but now I see Kaitlyn coming into her own. She is a far cry from the young girl who first teamed up with Andrew.

    They will be good role models for Paul and Piper where one person is not as refined as the other.
  4. Pratfall

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    :lol: Oh, emdee . I had to step away from my computer for a bit after reading your post.

    It's as if being role models for G/P is the most important thing. At last , a useful purpose for W/P.

    I'm sure you didn't mean it that way .. but it just struck me funny..:rofl:

    Somehow ,I don't think G/P are wanting to adopt W/P as role models. They seem to be trying to progress by another route , entirely.
  5. Emdee

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    Glad I killed you Pratfall!

    Maybe G&P want another route but there is NO other.She has to improve to reach Paul's level no if, ands or buts. This is what Kaitlin had to do and she has done it. No amount of tricks can hide the fact.

    Besides role models are very important as they create a skating tradition. Canada has had a mens tradition for many years and a pairs tradition. Now a dance tradition. The good women have skated in isolation. Never making the cut for one reason or another.
  6. zilam98

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    yes i know that but i've never heard of that group before. i meant that the music sounds like i've heard it from elsewhere that i'm familiar with.
  7. zilam98

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    ahaha! good one there, pani. but then again, she is being brought to life, so that's when she needs to do the flexibility and stretch. she is not a statue all throughout the program ;)
  8. euterpe

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    W/P face D/W at Skate America. Let's see how that one pans out.

    Anyway, D/W beat V/M at the WTT after Worlds 2012. I don't see D/W conceding anything to anyone.
  9. spikydurian

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    I am impressed with their FD. Well done W&P. Your time is now indeed. Although they didn't podium in the last Worlds, I like their skating and am glad that it is looking like they will have a good chance to podium at the rate they are improving. Good luck W&P.
    BTW, why are many ice-dancers so good looking? :swoon:
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    Holy smokes their FD is AMAAAAAAZING!! I was lukewarm towards Je Suis Malade because of my taste in music, but The LXD's classically modern composition is one of my favorite type of music to listen to.

    The choreography is superb, reminded me of SYTYCD's Turn to Stone routine. W/P dancing is so fluid and their lines are exquisite! This is probably one of my favorite FD of all time even with the fancam! I really hope they can get onto the World's Podium with this!!
  11. clarie

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    SD down and very nice. Good luck to them today in the FD. Here's hoping they can make it to the podium in 2nd place, and also to the GP final eventually :)
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    They ended up 3rd, with an unaccountable 91 in the FD. Judge for yourself:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hogjp2qkCJY
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    Everyone in the audience around me was pretty shocked by their score (as was I).
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    How well do W/P have to do at CoC to qualify the finals?
  16. Macassar88

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    Depends - I'd think at a minimum second with a higher score than BS (Or higher score than Shibs/IK if one gets silver at NHK and other gets silver at CoR)
  17. googooeyes

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    Truthfully I'm worried that W & P are not going to get their due at worlds this year. Can we really expect 3 North American dance teams to be on the world podium? Even if they deserve to be? There are 5 former Soviet country judges in judging pool for the dance event at worlds. W & P will have to be SO much better than B & S, they will have to get all their levels, and B & S will have to make a mistake for W & P to be placed ahead of them. Even then I'm not sure it will happen. Any competition result like Skate America just provides justification for not having the 3 NA teams on the world podium. Boy I have gotten cynical im my old age!
    But on the other hand maybe all the competitions will be called super fairly and the results will come out exactly as it was skated. :)
  18. Rock2

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    Possibly at World's in Canada but not in Sochi. Guaranteed that -- rightly or wrongly -- Bobrova and Soloviev will be neck and neck with D/W and V/M by the GP next year setting up a fight for the Gold in Sochi. They are likely to hit the podium in London this year, too. Depends on how well W/P skate and get the audience into it.
  19. Macassar88

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    I doubt that Bobrova and Soloviev will be anywhere near Virtue and Moir by the time Sochi starts. I think that Zhulin is an amazing coach, but I don't think that's possible. I don't think they'll be able to challenge Davis and White either.
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    Don't think so either. And I wouldn't take Pechalat/Bourzat out of contention for the bronze medal at next Worlds just as yet, we haven't seen them compete in the GP series, have we? Some people think P/B got their retirement world medal last season and shouldn't expect to repeat but I'm not sure that's how it works. Well, only time will tell.
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    I agree as well. I still believe those 2 teams are a notch above the others. Call me naive but I hope whoever skates it and deserves it ends up on the podium whether they're from Russia, N.America or wherever. I hate thinking otherwise even though I know it still happens. I like W/P FD but they weren't happy with how they performed it so I have hope. It's very different/unique and sometimes that can be a plus and other times a minus, but I always appreciate the effort to bring something new to the table no matter what the result.
  22. geoskate

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    The silver lining in this result IMO is that, despite the fact that Bobrova/Soloviev are much improved compared to last season, Weaver/Poje still beat them on the PCS scores. The levels problems are probably quite easy to fix.

    One good thing about the judging panel at Skate America is that I don't think anyone could accuse the technical panel of favouring the Russians, given their nationalities. That will mean that the levels problem can't be passed of as a bias in the technical panel, and will have to be taken seriously and fixed.

    To set some context for the result, their PCS scores have improved by over 2 points compared to their first competition last season (Skate Canada).
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  24. clarie

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    I'm very happy that these were fixable mistakes and that they are easily overcome. I love their FD (and their SD).
  25. tut88

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    I love this FD !
    They took a totally different path from everybody else !
    And I admire them for this !!!!!!
    They have guts !
    Need to work on it, and to make some mechnism more fluent, but I'm sure it will be great !
    They are very good skaters, just need to handle pressure better.
    wish them all the best !
  26. Pratfall

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    Best of luck to them for CoC. ..SD just a few hours away . Go, guys !
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    The free dance will grow on me I think, like their Moulin Rouge freedance. Their SD is my favourite one this year of all the one's i have seen so far.

    Good luck to them at CoC, honestly, I really really hope they win!
  28. circuscandy

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    Kaitlyn's new SD dress is beautiful!
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    I am happy she changed it. The old dress was too plain.
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    Love it! Solid job and I hope they close the gap with P&B.
  32. Macassar88

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    Unless PB fall, I don't think that WP will be able to close the gap even if they do win the FD. But we'll see what happens. Personally I hope that PB fall and end up in third so that BS and WP can still make the GPF (because we know that PB will win TEB so they'll make it anyway). I feel like all three of those teams are more deserving of making the GPF than Ilinykh and Katsalapov or Capellini and Lanotte.
  33. zilam98

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    love the new SD costumes! fit the music better!
  34. clarie

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    :( Awww.......it looks like they won't make the GPfinal this year unless a miracle happens.........oh well, more training time for them.
  35. zilam98

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    oh really? what happened?
  36. Macassar88

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    They placed third in both events - usually the top 6 all have two silvers/golds or a gold and a bronze.
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    3 straight events now where Weaver and Poje's FD spin and diagonal step sequence have been called a level 2 (Ondrej Nepela, Skate America and Cup of China). When are they going to look at tweaking those? The spin matches the character of the program nicely, but they can't be giving up 2 whole points at Worlds. The difference between a level 2 and 3 diagonal step sequence is 1.5 points. A level 4 spin alone would have kept them 2nd in China.
  38. Marta24

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    I don't care what the judges say. Weaver/Poje's FD is amazing and a masterpiece. I hope they won't change now their FD to something more traditional!

    I am so sad for them,sometimes it's like they are running against a wall and I think they deserve much more recognition and respect than they get right now.
  39. shan

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    But I'm sure there are small things they could change here or there that would enable them to get higher scores without sacrificing their "masterpiece".
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    Of course! Maybe with more transitions they could improve their PCS and they have to raise their levels in the spin and steps.Maybe it's good for them to not getting into the GPF, so they have more training time until Canadians.