Weaver and Poje #2: From Buenos Aires to Sochi

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  1. rvi5

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    My cable listing is showing the Gala on Saturday at 7:00-10:00pm EST on Sports Network Ontario.
     
  2. girlscouse62

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    Thanks rv1. Don't know whether we can access that in pacific canada
     
  3. Alixana

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    Check your local Sportsnet listings. I have it on Sportsnet West feed on time delay from 9:00 pm-12:00 EST.
     
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    Thanks, guys
     
  5. Jessiebanana

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    As much warning as I had that a Russian would be on the podium, barring a horrific mistake, I still can't believe they're bronze medalists above all the other superior teams. To think W/P will be behind them in Worlds is unbelievable.
     
  6. beebee

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    They did not have a poor SD. They were held down by the Technical Panel to ensure that were not within striking distance of the podium. This could not be clearer-- it worked at COR and it worked here. My hat is off to them for once again coming back strong and proving they are competitive with the best of them. They are great competitors and great sports--I truly admire them.
     
  7. PashaFan

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    I/K were way better than W/P. Get over it.
    Some of you really think that W/P have a right to be on the podium.
    They were not held down by the technical panel.
    They made errors & were punished for it in the SD.
     
  8. Sk8ngCat

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    Since you're obviously not a W/P fan, why don't you swan off, fowl troll.:kickass:
     
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  9. clarie

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    I think they were temporarily dumped by the judging this time. Who knows what will happen in the future. I/K were OK, but still have a ways to go. W/P were awsome!!!
     
  10. PashaFan

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    Actually, I'm a huge W/P fan.
    Ever since I saw them at the 2007 Worlds in Japan.
    But I'm also a SKATING fan which means I can be objective about skating.
    If the truth hurts why don't you swan off :lol:
     
  11. FelicitySmoak

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    Totally agree with you, as were some other beautiful dance teams.
     
  12. beebee

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    PashaFan, could you please take a look and let me know why W/P were given a Level 3 on their twizzles (remember, Level not based on space between skaters or even wonkiness). Also, I'm very surprised about the extended lift. What do you think? That's two points right there without even questioning the Finnstep. As we know, two points can create a chasm in the SD. Speaking for myself, I'm not saying they should have been in third place after SD, just that they were nickel and dimed. That was enough to drop them down a place in the standings and could have been enough to really shake their confidence going into the FD. The first objective was achieved, but the second was not. As they are wont to do, they just came back stronger and did themselves and their fans proud.
     
  13. geoskate

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    Finally chiming in to congratulate Weaver/Poje on a superb free dance.

    I am very impressed with how far they have come mentally. They must have been under significant pressure for a good skate in the free dance. A few years ago they would have had trouble dealing with that; now they take it in their stride.

    Their ability to express music has also really improved in the last three years. That was really obvious in the free dance.
     
  14. clarie

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    And I happen to think they were robbed in the SD by about 5 points. I hope they can put it behind them and skate lights out at Worlds as they did in Sochi.
     
  15. Emdee

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    I do too.
    Their marks were artificially depressed.
     
  16. Marta24

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    From Tessa & Scott's interviews it seems like they are retiring, so I'm curious how things will change for Kaitlyn&Andrew when they are Canada's #1. I think their scores had a lot to do with not being #1 of their country. If you take D&W,V&M and P&B out, who are probably all retiring after this season, Kaitlyn&Andrew had the second best FD score in Sochi.

    If Patrick is also retiring there won't be a lot of Canadian skaters capable of winning medals at future WCH and if you think about G/P not getting the international scores, Skate Canada had hoped for, I could imagine that Kaitlyn&Andrew will be maybe their only possibility to win medals.

    It would make me very happy if they would finally get the recognition from the international judges.
     
  17. Ladida

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    Very happy birthday to Andrew Poje!!!
     
  18. bonmil

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    With worlds coming up soon, I thought I would bring this thread into the forefront. W&P are Canada's best chance for a medal. Beautiful skaters and have improved so much over the last couple of seasons. Love both their programs this year. Go W&P!
     
  19. tut88

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    I agree !!!! they were jeld down by judges, unfortunately being second couple did not help too !!
    Hope this Russian power is eneded now that they got their medals in Sochi , and so we can enjoy again ice-dance !
    :)
     
  20. tut88

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    I agree !!!
     
  21. tut88

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    I don't agree !!

    WP were not of podium in Sochi, but not even I/K.
    I was THERE, so I haven't seen in on tv, i saw speed, edges, expressions, timing and all.
    "ponished " sounds totally the wrong words.
    They have been held down by panel like at COR,
    just because they were a threat to Russians couples, BOTH
    and also being second couple ( no VM faults, of course ) never helps

    They were great !
    And that FD WAS worth a medal !!
     
  22. PashaFan

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    I agree that at the COR they were robbed.
    In Sochi I would have had them 5th but not on the podium. But above C/L & B/S.
    I don't think they have been held down but their SD was under-marked. But I thought that about other couples.
    My two sisters were in Sochi too & one of them is a massive W/P fan but liked I/K too.
    Let's face it the top two in Sochi were decided a couple of years ago.
    I love W/P but just because you love a couple does not mean you can't love others too.
    I was gutted for P/B but really enjoyed watching I/K who I'm also a fan of.
    We should be happy there are so many great ice dance teams around at the same time.
    But enough with the "Russia Fix" thing. I/K deserved their Bronze.
     
  23. judgejudy27

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    W&Ps SD performance in Sochi was definitely not worth a medal. I agree that they should have finished 5th overall. They should have won COR and been 3rd at the Grand Prix final.
     
  24. lauravvv

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    They lost to Pechalat/Bourzat by 4 points overall in the GPF. Do you think they were underscored in the SD, in FD, or both? I could see that they had mistakes in their FD step sequences. Level 2 seemed correct, as level 4 is rare anyway, so, when a team makes an obvious mistake or two in a step sequence, level 2 is not surprising. PCS is another thing. It can be debated which of the two teams deserves higher PCS in what category. Although I see that it's accepted by many people here that Kaitlyn has weaker skating skills than P/B and even Andrew.
     
  25. beebee

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    I am so sick and tired of posters criticizing Kaitlyn's skating skills. Unquestionably, Andrew is a very strong skater--one of the strongest of all the current male ice dancers. Because of this, Kaitlyn had to improve her skills and has been extremely successful, IMO. Her posture, edging, and overall skating are excellent. I just don't understand how fans, who allegedly are savvy with regard to Ice Dance, cannot see the huge improvements Kaitlyn has made over the years and insist on harping on what is in the past. How could they possibly have performed Maria de Buenos Aires so beautifully unless both of them are strong skaters.
     
  26. lauravvv

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    I agree, and I think so too. It's just that I still see people talking about it, and I am not an expert at all, so sometimes I am not sure what to believe.
     
  27. clarie

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    I agree. She's up there with the best of them now, certainly better than some placed ahead of them at the O.G.'s
     
  28. PashaFan

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    Other than Bobrova, which women ?.
     
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  29. tut88

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    I totally agree !!!!
    She is a good skater !!
    Bobrova and Ilink are a lot worse !

     
  30. tut88

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    I totally don't agre !
    Panel was totally for RUssia so levels are done by judges.
    I saw any mistakes in the step seq. Should have been level 3 !