Washer/Dryer recommendations?

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Skittl1321, Aug 21, 2012.

  1. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    We are buying a new house, so we are going to need a new washer/dryer. Our old ones are staying with the old house.

    I, of course, want a super pretty red LG, because it is super pretty, and they are kind of the "thing" of the moment.

    But, I am trying to be realistic, so I was wondering if anyone had recommendations on good washing machines and dryers. I don't really have a budget, we'll spend what we need to- but I don't need super duper top of the line.

    Thanks for the help!
     
  2. mrr50

    mrr50 Well-Known Member

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    I have a front load maytag washer which I love, its 3 years old. the dryer is good too. prior to that i had a frigidare(?) front load washer with matching dryer which were horror stories. the drum belts broke on both at least twice in the 9 years i owned them. granted, I'm sure that defect has been fixed but i tend not to trust brands after that kind of crap.
    Of course Whirlpool (I think) now owns several different brands, including the two i mentioned(I think).
     
  3. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    If you get front loaders, you may be tempted to save a few bucks and not get the stands that raise them up off the floor. SPEND THE MONEY.

    We just moved, and the previous owners did not buy the stands, and it's a pain. The units are quite deep, so to ensure that you have everything removed you have to double over to see and reach in, plus when the doors are open you can't put your laundry baskets under them as they don't fit.

    Sounds picky I know, but along with the million other things we need to spend money on, this is near the top of my list.
     
  4. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the suggestion. Can I ask one question- are you tall?

    I guess I need to weigh not having to bend over with not being able to use the top of the washer/dryer for folding. If they are on pedestals, I can no longer reach above them.
     
  5. CynicElle

    CynicElle Well-Known Member

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    We just replaced our washer/dryer last month with a Whirlpool top-loading high efficiency washer and a Whirlpool dryer. They have so many functions that they make my head hurt, but so far I really like them. I'm especially fond of the "Allergen" wash setting -- it takes a long time, but it does seem to have helped reduce my husband's allergy attacks when we use it to wash bedding.
     
  6. Really

    Really No longer just a "well-known member" Yay!

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    I'm 5'2" and we bought the pedestals for our new set last winter. I got Kenmore steam machines. I've used the steam in both machines. Mine are pretty purple...look quite nice in my white laundry room! :)
     
  7. rfisher

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    I do not recommend Samsung front loaders if you ever plan to move. The drum has a special locking mechanism and requires a specialty moving company. It cost me almost $1,000 to move them. Something if I'd known before the fact would have had me including them with the house or buying another brand. They will stay with my house when I move again. Also, double check that there are available repair people in your area for any brand you buy. This is another problem with Samsung.
     
  8. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    5'8" and my husband is 6'3"
     
  9. Louis

    Louis Tinami 2012

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    I highly recommend Electrolux - largest tub capacity, very quiet, reversible doors, steam wash and dry, and many stylish colors. I got the Mediterranean Blue. :)
     
  10. agalisgv

    agalisgv Well-Known Member

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    I have front-loading Bosch. Works great for me. I'm not tall and don't have the pedestals. No problem reaching in to get the clothes or placing something below the doors. I use the top of the w/d to fold, so I like having that available.
     
  11. A.H.Black

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    Somewhat on a tangent.

    Some/many of the front loaders don't do a good job of getting whites white. Many people complain of grey underwear. The problem seems to be that there isn't enough water to really carry the dirt away. Try to find a model where you can change the water level and it isn't done completely by a sensor.
     
  12. madm

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    One year ago I had to replace my under-counter (23.5" x 33") Asko washer when the washer motor failed and was $500 to repair. My criteria for replacing vs. fixing is to replace when the repair is >50% of a new machine and when the machine is old (mine was 10 years). I still have the Asko dryer. I chose the Bosch Axxis front-loading machine. Like my other washer, it is energy efficient, uses very little water, and heats it's own water. Ten years ago I switched from a full-size GE top-load washer/dryer to the smaller under-counter front-load washer/dryer, and I love them. They give me back so much of the space in my small laundry room that doubles as a garage entry room. I also had a carpenter build a counter above and around the washer/dryer so that I have a melamine counter on top of the units that I can iron on. And my husband installed a 4-outlet receptacle above the counter. The only drawback to this whole arrangement is that I am now limited to buying under-counter models and that limits my choices. If you are interested in saving money, I believe a gas dryer is less costly to run than the electric one.

    When choosing my new washer, I asked the repairman what brands have the best and worst repair records that he's seen. He told me Bosch and Maytag had fewer repairs, and that Asko has a lot of repairs. Before you buy, check with your local appliance repair shop to get their opinion about which models they recommend based on repair frequency and cost to own. Also consider buying the extended warranty as it is not uncommon to have to get a repairman for something during the first 4 years of ownership, especially with these highly computerized models.

    IMO front-loaders do a better job of washing than top-loaders. The only disadvantage of the under-counter model is its capacity - the biggest thing I've ever put in it is a queen comforter and I had to stuff it in there. Since we only have 2-3 adults' laundry to do now, we don't need a giant machine. Also, the time to do a load is a bit longer with the foreign machines than the American ones, but that's because they do such a good job of cleaning the clothes. My Bosch has many wash cycles to choose from with the shortest one being 20 min. You will also want a model that is easy to use and not totally confusing to select wash options.
     
  13. agalisgv

    agalisgv Well-Known Member

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    I was going to mention some of what madm posted, but wasn't sure if all washers did these things nowadays. With Bosch, it weighs the amount of clothes you put in before starting the cycle. Then the machine adds only as much water to wash that amount of clothes. If you need to throw in an extra towel after starting the cycle, it reweighs your clothes and adds water accordingly. It's exceedingly efficient. It will also adjust the washing/rinsing time based on the load amount. That way no matter how big a load you do, those clothes will be clean at the end. A very small load will wash quickly. Finally, if you accidentally put too much detergent in, it has a suds sensor that will run an extra rinse cycle so you don't end up with soapy clothes.

    I heart my Bosch :rollin:
     
  14. madm

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    One more thing I forgot to mention is to be sure to get a washer with the option to spin clothes at 1200 rpm. This really gets the water out of the clothes, which will reduce the time required to dry the clothes. I find that anything less than this leaves the clothes kind of soggy. Also get the biggest capacity you can. Here's the Bosch Axxis spec:

    Bosch Axxis Plus Series WAS24460UC - 24" Front-Load Washer with 2.2 cu. ft. Capacity, 15 Wash Programs, Energy Consumption of 130 kWH/year, Touch Controls & LED Display and 1,200 RPM Spin Speed
     
  15. PDilemma

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    My father-in-law repairs washers and dryers and occasionally other appliances. His recommendation is to avoid the front loading washers as they have more issues and do not last as long. He also suggests avoiding as many bells and whistles as possible as they are just more reasons that you end up calling for repairs and make repairs cost more. People get absolutely irate when they find out how much it costs to repair some of that stuff that you do not need for washing/drying clothes anyway. Also, if you get a high efficiency washer, be aware that you have to clean it or it will smell. Because if you call him to fix that, that's what he is going to tell you and you will have to pay for the service call. (He goes on those calls roughly once a week).

    When our washer (provided by our land lady) died, he recommended a Maytag. That's what she got. It is very basic and works great. If you want to pay more, he would probably say Bosch.
     
  16. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    Agree with this, and not just for appliances. So many products these days have a million settings, features and extras that you never end up using - but you pay for them, and they provide a million more ways the product can break down. Plus, money spent on all the extras is often at the expense of the basic quality and function of a product.
     
  17. madm

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    I love how little detergent is required by a front-loader. I only use about 2-3 Tbsp powder per load. This means that I get a lot of wash loads out of one box of HE detergent. If you buy a front-loading HE machine, you MUST use HE detergent so that it does not produce too many suds. Buy a good quality detergent like Tide HE. Using the wrong detergent can cause drainage issues and may prevent the machine from spinning.

    Make sure you buy a washer with a stainless steel drum if possible and as many metal parts as you can get. The plastic parts are more prone to breakage.

    Also take note of the power requirement for your washer and dryer. The Bosch and other European models require a 208-240V power supply.
     
  18. Aceon6

    Aceon6 Get off my lawn

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    We have bought the low end Electrolux pair last August during our state sales tax holiday. Absolutely zero problems. We went to an independent appliance dealer who also does a ton of service calls. He recommended against the LG due to frequency of repair.
     
  19. AxelAnnie

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    I have the super pretty red LG! I have had it 4 years, and love, love, love it!
    I highly recommend it, for both it prettiness, and it's cleaning ability. It does a fab job on the clothes, with less wear and tear.

    Good luck with your new home.
     
  20. agalisgv

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    Fwiw, I haven't had a single repair since we got the machine five years and two moves ago. Also haven't had any issues with smells. I know that's often cited for front loaders, but we've never had an issue. We use the sanitary cycle frequently for our laundry, so that may be why. Also haven't had any issues with whites coming out gray. Our clothes come out much cleaner than any top loader I've ever had. Before I would have to run our clothes in two or three cycles to get them as clean as they get in our front-loader with just one cycle. As madm mentioned, the cycles tend to run longer on average, but they get your clothes clean the first time. So overall you save on power, time, and really save on water.

    Also, I shopped around and got the deal of a lifetime--a brand new, top of the line Bosch for just $400 including tax, with free delivery, set-up, and full warranty. Regular retail price for it was $1300 or so, not including tax or delivery. The lower-end models were near double the price I paid--why pay more for less I say?

    If someone is cost conscious, the place to save is on the dryer. While the quality of the washer matters a lot, dryers are pretty similar across the board. People pay lots of money to have that matching set, but you really are getting hosed on the dryer side. If you need to cut back, get an inexpensive dryer, and performance-wise you'll be fine while saving $500-1000 or more.
     
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  21. Rob

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    I love my Samsungs. One thing to note is that the dryer "Normal" setting only intends to get your stuff 85% dry so you can hang it the rest of the way. I happen to like that, but if you want it 100% dry, you have to use the "More dry" or timed settings.

    My washer came with locking bolts so I can install them myself if I need to move it.
     
  22. madm

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    I have never had a smell issue with our Asko or Bosch front-loading machines. Maybe that's because I live in a dry climate and I do loads at least every other day. Occasionally my husband does an all-white load with bleach and hot water. We just bought a rental house in Oregon for our college daughter to rent, and it came with the Frigidaire Affinity washer/dryer. I read on the web that she may need to leave the washer door open after use to avoid that mildew smell. But so far we haven't noticed any bad smell.

    Here are some useful tips to avoid a bad smell (e.g. use less detergent, no fabric softener, keep door ajar after use):

    http://housewares.about.com/od/laundryappliances/qt/preventingmold.htm
     
  23. LilJen

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    We got Fisher & Paykel washer/dryer when we moved to our current house 7 years ago. Never had any problem with them. The washer is top-loading but engineered to be efficient and not use a ton of water. (It's an EcoSmart model.)

    On such subjects I nearly ALWAYS go to the library and snag the most recent reviews in Consumer Reports. Always helpful. We got a great dishwasher that way, vacuum cleaner too, can't recall what else.
     
  24. NancyNC

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    Um...we have Samsung front loaders (which we LOVE and I would move them anywhere we happened to go) and they required absolutely no special movers despite the locking mechanism because the bolts were there. I'm thinking perhaps you were snookered into something there...:confused:

    EDITED to comment on the "clean it or they will smell" - all we do is dry the door and seal of the washer with an old towel after each use, then leave the door ajar for 15 minutes or so. Never had an issue with smell.
     
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  25. Vash01

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    I bought Whirlpool washer & dryer around 1988. I am still using them. They never needed repairs.
     
  26. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, things don't seem to be made like they used to. Almost every guide says to expect a washer/dryer to last 8-10 years...

    I think Whirlpool is a good brand, but knowing it used to be a good brand doesn't give much evidence that the products made today are still a good quality. I know of plenty of brands I used to trust really aren't high quality anymore.
     
  27. rfisher

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    Nope. This particular model did not have the locking bolts. It's about 5 years old now so Samsung probably changed the mechanism due to so many complaints. The other problem I have had and so did my brother with a Samsung ice maker is certified repair people if it's under warrenty. None were available to work on them in either of our areas (I was in E Ky and he's AR). So, be certain to ask the dealer before you buy. I will never buy Samsung again.

    And, if you use a professional moving company, they will not secure the bolts for you. You will have to do it yourself. It's part of their new liability issues because a lot of front loader washers have been damaged during moves if the drum is not secured. Trust me, after this experience I did my homework.
     
  28. Prancer

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    ITA. We didn't get them because our we have a fixed shelf in the laundry room and the washer and dryer wouldn't fit under them with the stands.

    If I had to do it all over again, I'd rip out the shelf even though I use it, and buy the stands. Sometimes I am bent over almost completely double trying to find socks that are stuck on the back or top of the washer drum. I'm 5'6" in sneakers, so I'm no stork.

    Lots of people overuse detergent and fabric softener, which is the main reason whites turn gray, particularly when combined with hard water. People had gray whites before HE washers for the same reasons. It may be that the washers don't rinse away as much residue, but I don't think the problem is dirt.

    I have Whirlpool Duets; never had a service call in all the time I've owned them. I do clean the washer with Affresh every 100 loads, but I always cleaned my washer with vinegar every couple of months anyway. I also clean my dishwasher every couple of months. We have hard water, even with our water softener; we get a lot of detergent and mineral buildup in our machines.

    I suggest looking in Consumer Reports rather than relying on people to tell you about their personal experiences (mine included). All any of us can tell you is that our particular machines work or don't. That doesn't tell you much about the reliability of a brand overall.
     
  29. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    This is very true. But it does tell me what I should keep my eye on.

    My sister told me she doesn't have the stands and it is no trouble for her at all (she is 4'11", I'm 5'0") but my husband looked at some DIY ones and said he can make them easily, so we'll probably do that to get a laundry basket under the door- that does seem like something that would suck, even if the opening isn't too low.

    I hate that I'm losing the space on top of the machines though. I currently keep a lot of stuff on top of my dryer (my washer is a top loader- but both are staying with the house as a rental)
     
  30. Prancer

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    I did buy a topper for my washer and dryer--it's a big flat thing that matches the machines and goes across the top of both--and I use that as a my folding table, which I consider my trade-off for the stands.

    And that is the reason why I haven't gone ahead and ripped out the shelf and gotten the stands.

    But there are days when I think it might be worth having the stands instead.