Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Cachoo, Nov 8, 2012.
Apparently they will open at 8 p.m. I find this depressing but I'm sure the stores will be busy.
In New England, the Patriots are playing Thanksgiving night. So while the boys are mellowing out from the turkey dinner and watching the game, it seems a good opportunity to get some shopping done. Not for me, I do all my shopping online. But I'm betting my sisters will be there.
My mom and I went when stores first did this and we left pretty quickly without buying anything. It was depressing. Not only for us but it was depressing seeing the employees who would rather be anywhere but at work. We never did it again.
8pm, heh? I can cross the border after work and go home at a decent hour. Thanks, Americans!
Whether or not they actually open on Thanksgiving night, they have to work anyway to put up all the Christmas decor, stock the merchandise for Christmas and Black Friday sales, and get ready for early openings the next day.
And I'm sure some of them are happy to get the extra hours and the overtime.
I get the Black Friday stuff, but here Christmas is already up. I just found it lends to stores opening that wouldn't normally open - usually grocery stores close at 3, some are now open.
Yeah, Christmas decor goes up on Halloween in retail stores nowadays. It's already in full swing by the time Thanksgiving rolls around.
I work for le Tarjay, and we've not formally announced our open time (to my knowledge). But rumor has it that it's going to be 10pm, and given that Wally-mart is now opening at 8pm, I predict it's going to be at LEAST 10pm; maybe earlier, now. Who knows! I signed up to work as early as possible; I would rather work, go home, sleep and then have the majority of my Friday off to do whatever. I work in the market section, so it will be a slow day either way, haha.
ETA: Oh, now I remember what I came in here to post. Opening times have steadily been creeping up more and more, but eventually it's going to hit a point where the corporations realize that they need to ether go back to legitimately opening on Friday, or just not close at all on Thanksgiving. Which frankly I don't see happening because they would hate to have to pay time and a half to every single employee (Black Friday is the one day of the year that every single person is scheduled to work). I dunno, I just think eventually they'll just go back to 5 or 6am on Friday.
My hope is those that don't mind coming in on Thanksgiving are there and those who have long commutes to celebrate with family are off.
I hate Black Friday. I am required to work that day and therefore can't travel to see my family on Thanksgiving. The thought of stores opening earlier and earlier each year just makes my skin crawl, I'm waiting for the day that it becomes a 2-day event, both Thursday and Friday.
I think that is a great hope, but sadly I don't think a corporation like WalMart really cares that much about their employees.
Not that I want or hope to change anyone's mind over the Thanksgiving Day opening (just an FYI), but all employees that work that day will receive a voucher for an extra ten percent off one purchase the second weekend in December, no limit to the number of items included in the purchase.
for anyone who is having a miserable time with their family on thanksgiving, excuse yourself to go shopping
Maybe not, but my brother's pizza businesses always did pretty brisk business on Thanksgiving because a) there are plenty of people who aren't spending time with families but are alone on the holiday, b) lots of people are already to be home in the evening, having escaped from their relatives ASAP and c) there are plenty of people who don't celebrate Thanksgiving at all. It wasn't the busiest day of the year by any means, but it was busier than a typical Thursday.
So I would guess that if WalMart asks who wants to work on those times--which, IME as a person who comes from a family that does not celebrate any holidays is not at all atypical for companies to do--there will be more people than you might think who will be readily available to do it.
I was wondering how long it would take you to find this thread.
What is the point of Black Friday if the sales all start on Thursday. You couldn't pay me to get anywhere near one of those stores. I did it once and will never do it again. I am far too cheap to think those deals are even worth it. I think their huge sales end up backfiring on me because all it does is remind me how much they overcharge the rest of the year. That thought makes me never want to shop for anything again.
Thanks to state Blue Laws, Walmart stores in MA and RI will probably not be opening on Thursday, or so I heard on this morning's news. NH stores will open. I don't know about Connecticut but, if they do open the stores, then maybe there will be a reverse in the shopping tide, with MA and RI shoppers heading there, as long as the discounts cancel out CT's astronomical sales taxes.
People have been calling the restaurant to find out if we're open on thanksgiving. We're not (though it's going to mean driving home after working the night before and rushing back on Friday morning as we're open both of those days) but I said if they paid quadruple overtime I'd do it. I can't afford to pass on hours, none of us really can. Our boss won't do it (his son has been known to complain about EVER paying overtime, because one hour of work's the same as another, right?) but I would if it were offered. Money's money and these days most people can't be picky about how they get it.
At least they haven't started playing the Christmas CDs yet, though it might be a nice change (AT FIRST....) If I hear that damn ukelele cover of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" again I'll poison someone.
And, according to the subject line I got in an email from a certain retailer this morning, "Black November is HERE." WFT? Sales creep has been going on for years now, but a whole frickin' month of "sales"? :shudder:
I love a good bargain as much as the next gal, but Black Friday in the US and Boxing Day sales here at home are just not worth the hassle imo.
They were all open last year in upstate NY. My son went over around 9ish and the stores were all packed and he couldn't even find a parking space in the lot, even all the closed restaurant lots across the highway had crowded lots. Some sales were on but the big ones didn't start until midnight.
He told me some stores, like Walmart and Target, had pallets of sale stuff in the aisle still wrapped in packing paper ready to be revealed at 12 and people were ripping them apart before to get their crap in their cards so they beat the rush (!) and get out of the stores as soon as the prices came into effect.
"I'd rather go to Walmart than spend another moment with you."
I wonder if there's going to be any pepper spray action this year
Many years ago as a teenager I had a job at K-Mart and used to laugh during the holidays because people simply lined up behind the blue light and followed it around from blue light special to blue light special. We were also paid in cash instead of checks and needed to know how to count change back to a customer. How different it all is now except that there is this madness around the holidays.
Me too!!! I also remember that our discount was given in a voucher only redeemable in store. I swear half the people there had spent their pay before they left the store each Friday.
I remember 5 years ago that KMart was open during the day of Thanksgiving.
I had bought a new home, closed on Wed, and the movers were coming Friday. So I spent most of Thanksgiving day getting my new place ready, and found out by accident that KMart was open. I stopped in around 2-3pm and it was not crowded. It was more last minute shopping, don't remember any big signs for Sales or anything like that. I think they were closing @ 4 and staff said it was not bad.
Last year I went shopping at midnight on Thurspm/ Friday - first time in 18 years. Never again!!!
I forgot about that voucher! I thought the wood-paneled cash room had the look of a bunch of old ladies smoking and playing poker when they were actually separating piles of money and paying us. It is a wonder they weren't robbed.
I remember that! I worked at Gimbles during the holidays (or was it Gimbels?) They don't exist any more either.
Gimbel Brothers (Gimbels) was an American department store corporation from 1887 until 1987. The company is known for creating the Gimbels Thanksgiving Day Parade, the oldest parade in the country. Gimbels was also once the largest department store chain in the country. By the time of its closure in 1987, Gimbels had 36 stores throughout the United States.
I never was in a Gimbels: Was it like Macy's? (I suspect counting change back is like riding a bike---you never forget.)
Kids nowadays won't have any idea what the line "Would Macy's tell Gimbesl?" means in Miracle on 34th Street.
(Oh yeah, and get off my lawn )
Whee Kmart voids! Such happy times for me - I worked there throughout high school and college, and they paid slightly above minimum wage, so I felt like I was rolling in it Speaking of working Thanksgiving - we were never open on that day and indeed no Sunday shopping back then, so as a part timer you scrounged for every hour you could get. In college I worked my course schedule so I'd have at least one free day to work a full shift, and I'd take all the full timers' shifts when they went on holiday. Back then the women who worked full time were usually doing it for fun money as a supplement to their husbands' income - crotchety old broads, god love'm! Somewhere, I still have the certificate and photo they displayed when I was Employee of the Month
Ok--I have this odd memory and I think it is correct and maybe you can verify: I was pulled off of the register and placed in the "millinery" dept which included accessories like ladies hats and gloves but also lingerie. I just thought that name was either inaccurate or old-fashioned or both. I liked that department though. Do you remember a millinery department? I don't think I was ever Emp of the Month though! And what is it about being a young girl/woman working with a bunch of much older women who say just exactly what they believe?
Gimbels and "Miracle on 34th Street"---I had not put the two together but of course that was where Kris Kringle sent shoppers when Macy's didn't have the product.
This is probably not true for everyone, but I worked Thanksgiving evening once, and I worked Christmas Day once, and it wasn't bad at all. Thanksgiving evening, I was ready for something to do, and I think moving around after a meal, pie, and leftovers for dinner was really good for me. Far from being miserable, most of us were in a jolly mood. It was relaxed, it was casual, and most of the shoppers were just making their lists, so it was easy time-and-a-half money. And because I volunteered to work on Thanksgiving, I got Black Friday day off!
Back when there were video rentals , the place I worked stayed open on Christmas Day. To be fair, they decided everyone should work two hours so no one had to be away from their families/friends for long, and with everyone working, it was fair. I volunteered for the morning--by that time, the youngest person in my family was my nephew, and he was 12! My youngest brother was 16, I was 20, so we all slept late. A lot of the people there had families, and when I volunteered to do an extra hour from 8-11 (so did another girl who was about my age, same situation) most of the staff thanked us, as did the managers for volunteering. The few people that came in were relaxed, happy, grateful we were open. It was a really nice experience and I still felt the Christmas mood. Plus, the perks after were great. I got off both New Years and New Year's Day, and the staff was really nice to me till I went back to LSU. I got a great recommendation too.
While big box stores probably don't do it this way, I think working on a holiday is fine so long as you have volunteers who want to do it, or you make everyone work very briefly. But I don't think anyone's job should be in jeopardy if they don't want to work on a federally-recognized holiday, and if the store does have to remain closed all day, then it should be closed. I don't think Big Box stores think like that
I worked in Ladies Wear for the bulk of my Kmart career (!), which included children's wear, lingerie (pretty sure it was called that) and accessories, which includes purses, socks/hosiery, gloves, belts and hats (which would be the millinery). I also worked the pet department for a time and became expert in catching escaped hamsters and birds, cash, layaway, and the service desk - yes, I actually said "Attention Kmart shoppers! We have a blue light special!"
I remember fondly all the ladies -there were a bunch of Brits including one thin redhead with a thick Scots accent, an another heavily made up woman from Liverpool who sounded like the Beatles Just last night I remembered another dear - a widow who had lost her husband years earlier but had a really great attitude. She used to look forward to oldies movies on PBS on Saturday nights, accompanied by a bottle of red wine All the ladies loved to hear about boyfriends, and often gave really good advice and encouragement.
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