Volosozhar/Trankov blog translates

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  1. julieann

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    I don't think it's on youtube but here's a picture of how it was during the national anthem.

    I think the ISU probably was more in a twist about how it looks for photos. I think they do want each medalist on each step with no flags even if they are from the same country. Then when it's over you can join the gold medalist for another photo on the top step with the heads of the ISU and technical controllers. I just think they want to keep control of medal ceremony protocol.
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    I think that it's ridiculous that they should be fined! It's not like they were offensive or anything like that. It was a sweet moment and all the pairs looked so happy. If it's all about photos, I think it actually makes very nice ones. Really I think the ISU has more important things to take care of that than all three Russian pairs standing on the top of the podium with their flag. Maybe if they would have played the Italian anthem and given them an Italian flag there would have been no problem. (No negetavity directed towards Italians here, just Cinquanta).
  4. TAHbKA

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    Higher, prettier, better
    Hello, everyone! We are in Nice and the official practices began. We are in a good shape, all goes as planned and we are getting ready for the competition. Today we'll answer your questions as we promised.

    Q: Do you plan adding more complicated elements in the Worlds? Or will you focus on performing better? I know Maksim is against the quad throws, but what about the quad split twist?
    Trankov: The quality of the element is very important, no matter how many rotations you do. I can assure you: Trankov and Volosozhar do not plan quad throws nor quad split twists. You see, we can perfor a level 1 quad split twist instead of a level 2 triple twist. More revolutions - less high and the element is worse looking, hence the judges will give us 0 GOE at the best case. So what's the point? Why would we spoil the beautiful element for which we usually get a +3GOE? We are not a 13 or 15y.o. skaters, like Chinese who do that.

    Q: Which of your programmes is the most loved you think? And which do you like skating the most?
    Maksim: `Super Mario' is probably the crowd's favourite. The game is very popular abroad, the kids go nuts when hearing the first notes of the music. The adults love it as well. We are a bit sick of it by now - there isn't much figure skating in that programme. But yes, it became our TM programme.
    Tanya: I like all our programmes because they are so different. I like experimenting and being different all the time.
    Recently Nikolai Morozov choreographed a number to a sont `Yeah Right'. We were skating it to the life performance of Dian Bronfild (who, by the way, is the late Amy Winehouse's niece). A lovely afroamerican with a huge voice. First if was hard to create the character, but we succeeded later and it was very well received.
    Maksim: the story is : Tanya comes to a hotel with her luggage, she is kind of lady like, comes to a bar where I'm sitting listening to the live music and looking at the singer. So Tanya shows up and I approach her. I'm kind of not a commiting guy and Dian sings about me missing out on the real love. Very real number (not Maksim's, in general)

    Q: Maksim, would you like to live in Switzerland?
    Maksim: It's nice to visit, but I like it home. So I'd rather live in St. Petersburg. As for Switzerland I'd love to live there for a while , but not for the rest of my life.

    Q: You left home for quite a while. Who took care of your pets?
    Tanya: we have families, we live our pets with them

    Q: Will you skate your number to `Yeah Right' again?
    Tanya: we haven't really thought about it yet. We'll see, perhaps.

    Q: Maksim, was Nikita (Katsalapov) wearing your trousers? Were you wearing Lambiel's?
    Maksim: I couldn't skate in Lambiel's trousers even if I really wanted to. I'm at least one head taller than Stephane. Nikita was indeed skating in my trousers one number because he didn't have a matching costume.

    That's it for now, cheer the Russian team. We'll try to skate our best in the worlds for you!
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  5. Yukari Lepisto

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    oh i love that part lol! ;)
  6. zilam98

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    are they competing at worlds? i havent seen youtube vids of them yet, but those of the germans and chinese are
  7. Bournekraatzfan

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    Thanks so much, TAHbKA:)
    I'm really sad about the SP but am confident they will rebound in the LP.
  8. Bournekraatzfan

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    Yes, they are indeed competing. Unfortunately, they struggled in the SP, both falling on the death spiral, and are currently sitting in eighth. Many of the teams struggled. I read that the ice was crumbling.
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    Dionne Bromfield was born and raised in London, not sure where the american part came in :lol:
  10. TAHbKA

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    From PC, of course.
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    :confused: But if someone is not from America why would they be described as african-american? African English (I'm not sure such a term exists) ok, or some other reference to african heritage, but American?
  12. Bournekraatzfan

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    AWESOME skate! Congrats, Tati and Maks!
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    AMAZING!!!!!!!! And that may pull them all the way back up to the podium...
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    They were soooooo amazing!! :) and so cute during the award ceremony
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    Awww, they were great! Amazing comeback, the skate of the night... I hope they don't think about the fact they would be world champions if they had even done 1 less mistake in the short... this is a positive thing they have learned...that they can skate from behind and catch up.
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    exactly. It's an incorrect term because there are African people in just about every country not just America :lol::lol::lol::lol:.
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    Misleading calm

    Hello, dear readers! First we'd like to thank everyone who rooted for us, supported us despite everything. It's so important! Your warm words added energies before our LP in the Worlds 2012. We realized we can't let you down so badly.

    MT: We received so many emails. From Russia, Ukraine, Span, Germany , Japan... We have a superfan Yoka, who comes to the competitions with huge banners. It's not so common, by the way. Japanese fans prefer single skaters. Yoka gives us hand made cheburashkas which she makes herself. One of them holds a box and Tanya and I are kind of dalls inside there. Yoka is so creative, there is a banner with cheburashka that says in Russian : `adore you'
    Tanya: We worked so hard before the championship. We didnt even have time to prepare an exhibition number. Usually we take a week to recall it, but we were so deep in work that we didn't care what will we skate and what wear after the competition.
    Maksim: We only thought about a good skate in the SP and the LP. The preparations were really good. We did everything according to the plan, all worked out fine. We felt we were more ready than ever.
    Tanya: And just before the SP we were so calm, so much calmer, than usually. The mood was wrong. As if you stand up and realize you have to perform and of course you will, but without as much mood as usually.
    Maksim: We are all humans and in our sports the emotions and the mood are important.
    Tanya: it can happen to everyone.
    Maksim: Things happen. What I learned from the experience is that you must never ever give up. Always go on and do all you can do.
    Tanya: I was so upsed after the SP that I didn't even see the marks and wasn'tr tying to count how much we'd have to gain. When Maks said we could still be on the podium my spirits were lifted. But I was desperate for a moment.
    Maksim: Looking at the skates I can say all our pairs skated to the top of their abilities. If the falls didn't happen we could have repeated the European success. The Germans were not skating like thye usually do, they were bad. For their level that is. And look: Bazarova/Larionov's season best is 129, Savchenko/Szelkowy's is 132. Had Bazarova/Larionov skated cleanly they could have gained 13X and be on the podium. It's a science fiction, but it could happen. AS for Yuko and Sasha they certainly could be on the podium.
    Tanya: We spoke to our team mates afterwards...
    Maksim: And we said almost the same words to each other. Sasha, for example, said that when he was entering a braket and pushed with the toes the ice went down under the weight and he couldn't keep his balance.
    Tanya: The venue - the exhibition centre where the French put the ice just a couple of days before the competition. It could be that at the beginning the ice was still not good enough. It felt differently in the LP
    Maksim: Yes, I disliked the ice quality as well. I was just kicked out from the footprint! It's unspeakable... I was pressing into the ice with one blade and making a braket wit hthe other. Usually when you fall it is because of the braket. If you push slightly wrongly it slips. But I was kicked from the footprint. I've never saw a pair skater falling from the todes on his left foot.
    Tanya: Even my father said `I don't understand how did Maks fall'. Even though he is not interested in the elements he was curious what happened. he said `I was watching and rewatching, and couldn't understand'
    Maksim: I fell after the turn, usually if youfall it's in the entry. The pairs guys couldn't understand how it happened - if you make a turn you just remain sitting there.
    Tanya: We were in a state after the skate. How come!? We knew the other Russian pairs had falls as well.
    Maksim: When we were waiting for our skate everyone were running around and shouting the Russians fell. The sound on the rink is really good. I was a bit shaken by it. You should step away from everything before the skate, yet instead everyone were paniking! We learned the lesson and went far away before the LP. Where no one could see or hear us.
    Tanya: WE have mixed feelings after the competition. On one hand we are happy the LP was everything we wanted it to be and we got the silver medal, on the other hand - such a skate of the SP is unacceptable.
    Maksim: What happened happened. Lets move on.
    Tanya: We are going to Altay to a city Barnaul. We'll have 2 weeks to regroup there. We'll attend various procedures: massages, dirt bathes.
    Maksim: We'll see the northern deers. Their horns contain very healthy elements which are used in recovery procedures.
    Tanya: we'll live in a wood house..
    Maksim: We were told the recovery should be good. Many athlets speak highly of that place, so we decided to give it a try.
    Tanya:When we are back from Barnaul we'l lfly to Riga where we'll skate and Maksim will work a bit.
    Maksim: We'll have to prepare some exhibition shows for Korea where we were invited by Yu Na Kim. At the same time I'll be choreographing a programme for a Latvian skater. Will have a try out as a choreographer. I'm very interested in trying so I agreed. I have a couple of ideas. Then we'll fly to Korea for a couple of weeks and then we'll choreograph the new programmes in the USA with Nikolai Morozov.
    Tanya: WE have the ideas. Nikolai promised the music is good, something he never gave anyone to skate to being afraid they won't be able to express the music
    Maksim: After our `Black Swan' he decided we are ready, so he'll let us hear it.
    Tanya: But it happens that you listen to a piece and end up picking another. Though perhaps it's a wonderful piece that would suit us.
    Maksim: We want to go on astonish, try something new. I have an idea for an SP, but it'll be hard to impliment. If Nikolai supports it will probably become another programme everyone will be talking about. At least I'd love it to be.

    That's it, till later, take care!
  19. HisWeirness

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    Thanks for the translation...looking forward to their programs next year.
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    I'm not; V/T really need to get away from Morozov, but so long as they're getting the PCS that they are, there's no incentive for them to do so.

    I was so looking forward to this partnership, even before it was announced, but the more I see of them the less impressed I am. They're better than the material they're getting.

    Thanks for the translation, TAHbKA!
  21. hanca

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    Actually, I liked both their programs this year.
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    Thank you, TaHbka :)
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    I also enjoyed their programs this season. I liked the ones from last season too.

    They're both sounding better than just after Worlds. Thanks to the provider of the link and the translator.
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    We are slightly buffled with the new rules

    Hello everyone! Since we last blogged we choreographed the new programmes in the USA, participated a show in China, rested in Dominican Republic and trained in Italy. The summer was very productive - there were no injuries (unlike last summer) and we worked a lot. We will tell all about it next time, this time we'll answer your questions, as we promised.

    Q: Have you followed the Olympics in London? Who were you rooting for?
    Tanya: We were in Italy during the games without an access to the streams. We checked the internet every morning and listened to the radio
    Maksim: Vasilii Konov who was broadcasting from London did a great job, I could also write and ask him questions. A huge thank him for it. I think the Russian team did well - better than in Beijing. Of course I was surprised by the shooting and fencing results....
    I was also very upset when Isinbaeva didn't take the gold. I took it so badly that I couldn't sleep till 3am: how come my beloved Isinbaeva didn't win? Next day I was rooting for Abakumova and again, no luck for her. I was thrilled for Anna Chicherova. I met her when we received the sportsmen of the year price. I really felt for my favourite basketball players, but, of course, the volleyball compensated! When they were playing we were on the road and couldn't follow. I read in twitter our guys won and told everyone on the flight - everyone were so happy. When I watched the recording of the game I thought I must have missed something or forgot how to read. But the end of the game was genious! The Olympics were great!
    Tanya: We felt for everyone. Kudos to the girls from gymnastics and synchronized swimming. I'm also amazed by Hussein Bolt!

    Maksim: Frankly, I never root for Phelps or Bolt. Just like I never do for Evgeni Pluschenko. There are people who are unbeatable in their sport. They are there in the right time and place. Of course they work so hard, I don't question that. I consider them great athletes, hence it's even more interesting looking at , say, Blake who is trying to get Bolt all the time. It's pretty cool to live at the same time of the fastest man on earth and the best swimmer of all the times. I will be able to tell my kids I saw them winning!
    Tanya: I like the way they behave - their heads are in the right place, they have a good sense of humour. It's something to respect!

    Q: Did you go to your vacation in Altai alone or did the coaches come with you?
    Maksim: we were completely alone.

    Q: Which GP events will you participatE?
    Maksim: Unfortunately we cant' choose ourselves which GP events we are to participate, we can only tell which do we prefer. We got the Skate America and CoR. We had a slight choice, though: either Paris or Moscow. The hosting country can decide which of the local skaters will participate. We preferred to skate home: first we want to skate in front of the home crowd, second it's more convenient: one flight less and well, I still don't have a home medal.
    Tanya: Except for the GP we'll participate the Nebelhorn Trophy.

    Q: Maksim, was it hard to choreograph for a single female skater? Do you think it's something that would suit you? Or not at all? Did Tanya take any part in the process?
    Maksim: I think choreographing is hard, but I was lucky to work with such a talented girl - working with her was fun and easy: she was catching everything on the spot. I was a bit worried first. I know it myself and any coach would tell the girls are more obedient then the guys, but it takes them longer to remember the moves. But in my case she remembered everything at once and even if she couldn't repeat a move immediately it was clear she understands the move and if needed will repeat it a 1000 times.
    I would tell her: right, no time for that now, you can learn it later. Should we keep that in the programme? She would say : yes, let's keep. She liked what we were doing herself, and when the person likes what they do they usually make it. It wasn't hard, I liked the process, think it was more interesting, then teaching and coaching. I even had some hard time coming up with some of the programme parts, was driving around, thinking.... It's a capturing process.
    Tanya: I wasn't taking any part in the choreographing. While Maksim was working I was warming up, then we practiced ourselves.

    Q: What do you think about the rules change? In Korea there was a split twist where Maksim didn't lower his arms even on the shoulder level. Was it about the new rules? He used to take his arms apart, but not like that.
    Maksim: Frankly, we are not thrilled with the new rules. There are a lot of changes in the lifts. Now a level 4 lift might be not quite interesting, even junior-ish, I used to perform some of them when I was 13. I don't really get where the figure skating is heading.
    Tanya: Some things became easier, some harder. Some positions in the air are not counted. While the entrance and dismount gave points in the past now everything is counted in the air. Besides, Maksim doesnt' like how the opposite direction lifts look, so we have to look for other solutions.
    Maksim: the changes are not in the lifts only. The only change I loved is in the split twists. Now the male partner has to lower his hands below the shoulders. I always did it, it was part of the level of the pair. So do the Chinese pairs. Now you have to emphasize it even more to gain the points. There are pairs that not only the male partner doesn't open his arms - he hardly leaves the female partner and yet they used to receive higher levels than we did. Don't think it should happen this year.
    Tanya: The back inside todes and the forward inside now cost the same. We think it's wrong - the back inside is much harder, while the kids can perform the forward. I guess everyone will be performing the easy one now.
    Maksim: the spirals are not clear either. You could just hold it for 6 seconds and get your levels, yet now there should be a choreographed something that covers the whole rink. We are not quite sure what exactly are we supposed to cover. And how? Diagonally? In a circle? Serpentine? We haven't received an answer yet, but we hope it'll be clarified soon.
    Tanya: The rules are not supposed to change in the next two years till the Olympics, which is, of course, a good thing.
    Maksim: I don't really get why changing the rules every year. What will they change in 10 years when there is nothing left to change?
    Tanya: first they were talking about changing the elements which were badly defined or the elements that become too easy and all the pairs perform it.
    Maksim: yet it seems that there are pairs in the top 5 (Canadians, for instance) who can't perform a level 4 lift, they perform level 3, yet the rules keep changing. Some pairs cant' even keep up with the changes. We are trying, even though there is a risk for an injury. Last year the lifts difficulty were changed and the two top pairs missed the elements or got lower levels in some competitions. Yet the lifts became even harder. Where to?
    Tanya: In the USA we worked on the lifts with the acrobatics world champions. They helped us a lot: explained some points, showed new positions, gave new ides. We adapted those things for our needs, modernized some. We'll go back to that later - we recorded everything and will work on that.

    That's it for now! We'll tell you soon how did we spend the summer and a bit about the new programmes. See you soon!
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  25. rfisher

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    I have to agree with Maks regarding the rule changes. Who's making this stuff up? It sounds as if he's finding his post-competitive niche in choreography.
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    Thanks, TAHbKA!
    Maxim and Lambiel would make a great future choreo team:cheer:
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    love Tanya and Max, I love how he is always outspoken to alot of things, I wouldn't mind Maksim doing Choreography post their competitive careers :)
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    Ladies, are you serious? If his choreography is anything like the crap he and Volosozhar have been skating so far I'd :scream::scream::scream: from such choreography.
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    Thanks, TAHbKA. :)

    Who did Trankov do choreo for? I must've missed that news completely!
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    A Latvian skater Alina Fjodorova (I think he blogged about it some months back)
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    CanĀ“t say for others, I just hope he stays in skating some way:p
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    Thanks as always for the translation!

    Don't worry, dude -- I'm sure they'll find something. :lol:
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    I remember his father saying that he didn't do the choreo as a dance choreographer but more like he helped to work in the elements so the program would be up to technical standarts
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  34. Evilynn

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    I assumed they'd just start changing things back, after a 10 year absense it'll be like a brand new thing for the skaters anyway. :lol:
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    About Fjodorova or about Volosozhar/Trankov's programmes? If about Fjodorova - well, it's not what Trankov himself blogged, but of course the daddy knows better.

    If about Volosozhar/Trankov's programmes - I have an impression if Trankov doesn't choreograph it himself he had a lot to say on the matter (and I doubt they would have skated anything he didn't like/want)
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    ????? I'm baffled by this statement. Not liking how they *look*? How would rotating in the other direction look any worse (unless you really suck at it)?
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    Fjodorova, it's not clear in the blog's entry what they were working on with the girl. TBH I see no harm in him trying to work with a junior skter from a small federation - he can try and see if it's what he's good at/wants to do after retirement.
    I think that - yeah, Maxim has a big part in the music the pair choose, partly because Tania doesn't seem that involved in the music choces, partly because Mozer has a big experience in chosing music for seniors and Nikolai has too much skaters to chose music for. But I don't think Trankov choreographs the programm, they are too "Morozov" for that.
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  38. reut

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    I think he mentioned that when you need to change direction the flow is interrupted, you need to slow the speed, and this makes it look worse.
    I'm not 100% sure I remember it right, he mentioned it last year at Nebelhorn.
  39. Ziggy

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    It's a dynamic process.

    You identify an issue and you come up with a rule change to try to remedy it.

    But you don't know how skaters are going to respond to it. You can't predict how they are going to adapt (or not).

    After the season is over, you evaluate everything and try to improve it again (because things are never perfect).

    :lol:

    Well her choreography could hardly get any worse. :saint:
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    Because the kids from smaller federations can be used as guinea pigs, of course.
    It's quite clear from his previous blog entry what he was working on.
    Partly because it's rather obvious he will not skate for anything he dislikes and he will not do anything he doesn't like/want to. Luckily to him his current partner can skate to any music and do it well, whether she likes it or not (though from her interviews it seems she is fine with the music)