Virtue ~ Moir n. 20. L’amour est un oiseau rebelle

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  1. pani

    pani Well-Known Member

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    If competition will be more close not only between two teams, but between top 5-6 teams, this will be competitions more interesting for audience.
    And this will be new motivation for V-M ;)
  2. Golightly

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    Question: What was the overall difference between the second place (D-W) and the rest at Worlds? :confused:
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    pani Well-Known Member

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    Overall score
    1 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 182.65 1 1
    2 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE USA 178.62 2 2
    3 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA 173.18 3 3
    4 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN 166.65 4 4
    5 Elena ILINYKH / Nikita KATSALAPOV RUS 161.00 5 5
    6 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 160.62 6 6
    7 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV RUS 150.75 9 7
  4. Golightly

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    Thanks, Pani. We'll see what happens.
  5. bmcg

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    http://www.isuresults.com/results/wc2012/

    Pani posted the overall but when you look at the SD and FD alone and even further look at the TES and PCS you see how close it is between these top four teams in the eyes of the judges. I only point it out because some people still have the impression these two teams have a comfortable cushion and I don't think they do anymore, at all. And at least P&B and W&P show a confidence and belief they belong on that podium and I think it showed in their skating last year. And Russia is certainly doing all they can to give new life to their ice dance program. If I&K ever get their s**t together their skills could take them far. C&L had a fire lit under them last year (though personally I still don't see them in the same league as the current top four).

    I personally believe V&M have a special talent and quality and feel they are the best. But my gut says it's going to be quite the exciting season and I look forward to seeing it play out. Program choice is going to be so important this season. I may not like the outcome but I´ll enjoy the suspense of the coming season. I just wish the SD wasn't such a crapshoot:(
  6. NorthernDancers

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    Absolutely teams will have to skate clean and on form in order to place on the podium. However, looking at the scores from last year, I think P/B received a home town halo in their scores. I would have had them a lot closer to W/P, and I'm not sure P/B will be back on the podium this year. It's not as close as one would seem to think from those scores. There is a tremendous difference in the quality of movement, finesse, skating skills, musicality in the top 2 teams vs all the rest. In my mind, there is no match in that regard to V/M especially. It's not just a few of us fans who say that....it's their competitors, other coaches, media, etc. They are a once in a generation team. One of the all-time greats.

    There is 1 chink in the armour in Canton....it's making sure the teams get their levels on the SD. For V/M, twizzles, lifts, footwork are all strong and consistent. The SD levels is where they need to be careful. I don't expect timing will be an issue because they are so musical. It's about all the right steps exactly the right way. Marina is not a foolish person. I would imagine that she knows clearly, and her students know clearly, that they will need to be extra careful with levels in the SD, and others surpassed them in this area last year. I expect they will have gotten some specific help in for this. My guess is that V/M will be motivated to end on a high note with a world championship at home, and then the Olympics, while finally snagging a GPF this year or next. I can't wait to see what they have put together for this season.
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    JMO but I think they still should have a comfortable cushion and the judges are only 'seeing' it that way because people are starting to complain about domination. But hey if you are good, you're good and V&M and D&W are still superior in my view and I love P&B and W&P but that's just what I see. Maybe this season I will see it differently.
  8. Shayii

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    :( that's what I think will happen too, but instead of being excited I'm just gonna be a nervous wreck. Anyways let's see what happens in four days...excited!
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    It's kind of exciting. Really can't wait to see the programs of all the Detroit teams and I&K
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    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120814&content_id=36662380&vkey=ice_news You could read about him in this article.
    He was wll known ice dance coach in USSR.
    Here you could read his profile on russian (use ggolw translation).
    The famouse skaters - Lobacheva, Aberbuch, Senemovich, Kulikova-Markov (he worked with them before TAT), he made choreo for some Lysacheck programs.
    http://www.igorksenofontov.ru/s&c/epshteyn.html
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  12. Shayii

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    So how we are close to see new programs?
    Its funny, Anna and Luca will be even in the same group at practice. :) Buttle of "Carmens" will start on Thursday? :)))))))
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    I want a diva bump to happen when Tessa and Anna pass by each other lol
  15. pani

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    :lol: Hope both will be in new Carmen dresses at practice ;)
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    I somehow thing that Tessa will be in her favourite black practice outfit!
  17. martyross

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    for example Tessa could ask Anna to light her cigar. everyone on the ice would stop and say woooo
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    Sorry Pani, but your "Buttle" of the Carmens put a smile on my face. I realize it was meant to be battle, but I like your take on it cause it references one of my fav male skaters -- Jeff Buttle. Thanks for the chuckle!
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    :lol: Funny! Sorry :(
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    :lol:
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    I actually see no Battle of the Carmens,but I wouldn't mind Jeff Buttle!Love him!
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    Love him too :)
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    not today, but possibly by Sunday;);)
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    No, I think she meant there is no direct competition between C/L and V/M since everybody as been talking about the battle of the carmens. Anyways this preview from the ice-dance site also mentions that the battle is more of a battle between B/S and C/L. I'm so excited for this weekend though I can't even concentrate long enough to finish a chapter in my microbio book, and we still have three days to go!
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    We're always gonna be paranoid about V/M being overtaken, but I'm gonna argue that Zoueva (with her teams) has every reason to crack the whip this season and refute any argument supporting their decline.
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    So when do V&M perform Carmen, Sunday?
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    OMG this can't be happening:(
  29. IoanaC

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    Does anyone know more details about this? I'm trying my best not to freak out here.
  30. Pratfall

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    :eek::(..Oh.No..Scott?..What's the injury ?.. and is it Scott ? ..
  31. m_chenning

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    It is a shock :( . Wishing speedy recovery of Scott!
  32. Pratfall

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    :( I just hope it's not serious...
  33. IoanaC

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    WHY do they (and us) have to go through this nightmare every two years?? It's become like a damn pattern. So unfair...:(
  34. Pratfall

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    Trying to see the best case scenario... in their position, it would be foolish to risk their GPs by skating through a minor injury , thereby taking a chance on it worsening..

    OTOH, there could have been an accident in practice..and there's bound to be fear that it's Tessa again. I know that was the first thing that crossed my mind , so I almost felt relieved to see that it was supposed to be to Scott..except I don't want Scott to be injured either..

    I'm going to try to sleep now ( nearly 2AM here)..but I don't expect to have much luck.:rolleyes:
  35. alilou

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    Just gutted. For them, and for me :(
  36. Macassar88

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    I literally just screamed NOOO at the top of my lungs for a good twenty seconds until someone knocked on my door asking me if I was okay.
  37. Emdee

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    Better now than later. There is a whole 20 days until Skate Canada. Even if they do not skate it will give them a nice chance to assess the competition and see whether C&L have more than just the music similar to them.
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    :( Hope it's not too serious.
  39. pani

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    Simply feel sad.
    And no full information about what happened :(
    Get well soon, Scott!
  40. clarie

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    Disappointed :(, but I'm sure he is getting the best of care for his injury. Here's hoping it's not a serious one and that he's back up and ready for the rest of the season. It's probably a very wise choice not to compete even with a minor injury (if it is minor). Fingers x'd.