Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by martyross, Sep 8, 2012.
28 days until Finlandia.
waiting for the masterpiece(s)!
I know I'm going to sound so uber but I don't think I've been this excited to see a new set of programs ever.
I'm posting the article with the pics from the old thread. I mean can we all just take a sec and just talk about how amazing they look! (And yes I know I sound like a crazy fangirl right now, but I don't care)
Thanks for the new thread marty!
hehe.. they make our lives so glamorous.. ..
Wow, just Wow. I am thinking this will be spectacular
When they performed Valse Triste at Worlds, the B. Eurosport men mentioned two things that you see exquisitely portrayed in those series of stills: the fluidity of movement and the fact that every frame makes a worthy picture. We don't even see them moving (duh), but the ease and beauty of the pictures gives the feeling of such smoothness. Remarkable.
They really just catapulted my expectations.
I was just looking at those pictures again. All of them, just incredible...
Also, no one else out there right now has better, cleaner lines and extension.
Thanks Marty for the new thread. Didn't realize it existed until Shayii mentioned it in her last post in "new beginnings.." The pics make them look amazing. Can't wait to be impressed and in love with new programmes. They never disappoint.
Great thread title! Those lyrics are so charming in French (some things just don't translate well, lol).
Best of luck to Tessa and Scott for the new season!
I was thinking this too. Like in that picture where Tessa is upside down, it looks like it could be a lift when it might just be a position to get into a lift, but it still looks amazing and makes a great picture.
With the start of the new season getting closer, I'm going to do a better job of keeping up with this thread. And I'm going to have to stop reading the thread from the most current page backwards. Before the other thread was closed and V&M's music was confirmed I saw "them" and "Memoirs of a Geisha" and thought that was Scott and Tessa's FD.
ITA. Every position is flawless. That first lift is especially .
Like others, when I first heard the rumours about Carmen I was feeling a bit "meh" but after reading about the direction the program will take and that V&M are working with an outside choreographer, I think that Carmen has the potential to be as fantastic as the new SD. I love it when the dancers are able to come up with a complete package so to speak; when both programs are excellent rather than one being amazing and the other not so much.
It also seems as if this is the second year in a row that V&M have been able to train full out without dealing with any major leg issues from Tessa.
So far both V&M and P&B's dances sound fantastic. I can't wait to see both teams in competition.
J just watched BBC commentary on Olys FD and Robin Cousins was blown away by their complexity, technical skills, timing and musical interpretation. Coming from a skater who was so good in his day, made me feel so glad for T/S. I certainly hope they heard some of these comments.
girlscouse62, I agree about hoping Tessa and Scott got to hear Robin's comments about them. While I love that that V&M are self deprecating (Tessa even more so) and can properly critique themselves when it comes to strengths, weaknesses and what needs to be fixed, I admit that looking back at last season the thing that bothered me the most was that they (Tessa especially) seemed to sell themselves short. It never sat well with me that a team as good all around as V&M are should be plagued with self doubt and made to feel that their success was undeserved.
It's a new season and a new start and hopefully V&M can go out and really get people talking. I don't want to see another season where V&M end up looking as if they are struggling to keep up. It does sound as if they have covered all the bases this time around and are determined to make a huge impression from the word go.
I'm starting to feel really positive and hopeful for them.
Thank you! What a beautifull positions and body lines. Now i want to know, what music they choose - ballet or opera.
Like i sad last season - the key is not to use some unknown music, but to show innovarive choreo even on oversued music. So will see could they made this or no.
For me its interesting to know - what music they choose first for FD this season? Look like Scott joke after WCh were truth - he really wish to do something, like there PF FD.
And i cant wait to know, what polka did they choose.
For now my favorite music in SD is B-S, because it from old Soviet movie and i loved this two movies in my childrehood
And now cant wait to see C-L FD. I think Vlasova choose Roland Pettit vesrsion too. So it could be two very simipar FDs. But will see
glad to see you here, Carmen!
pani, we don't know for sure if the choreo is based on Roland Petit ballet...it would be great, because Tessa is an exquisite ballerina!
PjKwong will be interviewing T&S tomorrow.
pani, we need those links over here, but they don't work anymore because fsu abbreviated the full link where the dots are... the abbreviated version of the links were copied, not the full links. someone is going to have to cut and paste the full links again.
eta... copied full links from goldenskate. may not be the same.
After a summer away from the forums, officially allowing myself to get excited now! They're looking great!
here are the links to the original pictures:
Roland Petit's Carmen
ballet videos tagged with carmen and roland petit
Great lifts they look similar to B/A lift in Ava Maria but with Tanith standing on Bens foot.P/B lift in Mummy FD .
Could you post B-A photo?
P-B lift were amazing, but Natalie hade different body position and lay down on Fabien back, no?
Oh, my....That didn't take long.
P/B..Nathalie's shoulders rest on the back of Fabian's shoulders
and yes, Tanith was on Ben's foot .. and both were a different type of lift from V/M's..
and as someone has pointed out ..we don't yet know if some of these positions are in transition , or not.
I'll just have to again.
Good point... Tessa's positions are usually pretty damn perfect even in transitional moments, so it can be hard to tell.
Stunning pictures of the VM.
http://www.iceskatingintnl.com/archive/results_vancouver/DFD Belbin Agosto 8294.jpg
You need to see the lifts in motion before deciding anything but with all the rules and restrictions in place for lifts all these dancers are going to hit similar positions. Tessa and Tanith both have beautiful positions. Scott however is in a very different position to Ben. The P&B comparision isn't even possible at this point as it's much more difficult to tell what is going on in that lift whereas it's easier to guess what is happening in the lift where Tessa reminds one of Tanith. Although even before Tanith we've seen female ice dancers stretch and arch their bodies into beautiful shapes in lifts.
I like this B-A lift, but this very different lifts for me.
Yes. It made a beautiful image but the mechanics of the lift appear to be very different based on the position Scott is in. With B&A it was a straight line lift, she stepped on his boot, hit the position and steps off all moving forward in a straight line.
This. We're obviously going to have to have video in order to figure out how that lift of V/M's works, but I think it's pretty clear that the execution is likely quite different. For me, the big thing that the two lifts have in common is that they're both very beautiful and done by very talented teams.
Can't wait to see videos also, to see the entry and the exit. But it seems photographers now at least have an early idea on what to watch out for. Tessa's arms and legs look almost perfectly parallel, my back hurts just looking at it.
Yes, guys, these lifts are completely different..doesn't the one with the backbend look like a curve lift , not straight line? I mean from Scott's position?..( I might not have my terminology entirely correct).. But even if it's straight line, moving sideways, the only similarity is the backbend. If you're going to call them the same based on that..we'd soon have it reduced down to about 3 or 4 identifiable lifts in all of ice dance..
The other lift in question is even less similar .. Tessa is on one of Scott's shoulders , he has one arm free , and he's obviously moving.. Is it going up ,or about to come down ,or about to change to another position ? We have no way of knowing..I've seen a lot of lifts where the girl has both legs in the air that way, for various periods of time..they're not all the same lift....
Maybe it's my limited knowledge, but the only similarity I see in the lifts is the arched back and I see none with the P/B lift. But that's just my opinion. Anyways I'm really excited for them and 27 days to wait till we see the programs is too long.
T/S awaiting their interview
I agree with you. Just IMHO
Cant wait to hear this interview.
is Jennifer Swan a modern ballet teacher? anyone knows more about her?
.. just to add a bit more food for thought , someone linked to this story in the Toronto Star over at GS..
The article is just more coverage of the same news scrum..but the picture is the thing...Look ma , no hands ..!
That appears to be from the short dance -- Tessa's hairstyle and top match some pictures that came out Thursday.
Yes , I think you're right..and I think this looks like another amazing rotational lift .. or part of one..
Yes, SD lift
I like how Tessa said - I think every lift were doing is new
When CBC interviews will be shown?
So for you old music with new elements is better than new music with old elements? New music with new elements would be nice, but I suppose we can hope for that in the SD. As someone commented in the previous thread, it's going to be "fresh and refresh" for VM next season.
Pani may I ask how all this music choices is going down amongst the Russian VM fans? Are they just like us who range from happy to disappointed with the cautiously optimistic and reserving judgement in between? (Will our favorite Russian photographers be in Finlandia as well? )
So it is Carmen. While I'm positive it will be spectacular and I will no doubt love it I guess I gotta say I'm a bit disappointed. I was hoping for something 'out of the box' oh well bring it on!
Yes, for me moves is the first in dance, music- on second place. But will see, could V-M made soemething innovative on overs
used music. Now nobody know nothing anout this FD
As about russians fans - yes, the same reaction A lot off people a bit dissapointed, but still wait to see programs first.
Yes, guys, you favorite photographers will be in Finland (if all will be OK). So we will have a lot of great photos. Not sure about videos with new ISU rules - nobode could made videos during practice and ISU competitions.
Look at SC titter - Tessa learn to cook
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