Virtue & Moir #8.5 - And the Goose is Golden

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  1. The Accordion

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    I thought it looked beautiful at that practice session!
     
  2. zilam98

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    i think, again, marina is thinking of parallels with G&G. although it was on a Worlds podium, marina had the biggest debacle with g/g (that also ended their working relationship) when she had gordeeva in pink for their RJ lp. ;)
     
  3. pani

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    She said, because it was wedding conception of this dance. She want to bring more light in this FD.
    Gordeeva had a lot off mistaces at WCh, when they skated R&J - didnt she? Maybe thats why Marina didnt like pink?
     
  4. Bue

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    There's another thread in the Trash Can with Patrick Chan doing an iPhone video tour of his athlete's village suite - it's super funny how orderly Scott's section of the room is! The rest of the guys are typical young male slobs, but Scott has his bed made up all tidy and a bunch of fan letters taped up across the wall in an orderly fashion. Too cute! He strikes me as a very disciplined person in all aspects of life.
     
  5. pani

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    At team competition, when Scott was a captain of Team Canada, he keap Canadian K&C clean :D
    I think this was letters from his schoull - remember, a lot off childrens was at Nationals and it was Scotts video with them?
    Maybe he is so disciplined person, because they live without pearents from his teenages years?
     
  6. mishieru07

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    True true. I remember reading that he stayed back alone to clean up the Canadian "apartment" at WTT.

    Well, I saw really messy dorm rooms when I went on exchange a couple of years back! It really depends on how strict his billets were and his upbringing. I imagine most elite athletes are disciplined though, especially those who boarded.

    Love her shoes from the Hello Canada shoot! It should be illegal to look this awesome after a week of sleep deprivation.

    I don't mind the pink dress! I still think white is the best (I want her to revive the SC dress one last time) but the pink one looks fine too. Maybe they had a compromise; Tessa goes along with Marina's wishes and wears the white one at Olympics while she gets to wear the pink one at Worlds!

    Off-topic: I want to see Tanith/ Johnny's room! With all the posters of Lady Gaga! :D
     
  7. pani

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    O yes - i wish this too :watch:
    And i wish to see Tessa-Scott exibition on Lady Gaga song Bad Romance :respec:

    O if Tessa like Rihanna and Jay-Z "Run This Town" - they could made cool number on this sont too. Tessa will be look greate in Rihanna outfit from that clip :lol:
     
  8. pani

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  9. Rafter

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    I was thinking that it's pretty amazing that during the last Olympic year, V&M were the world junior champions. It will be interesting to see if the 2010 world junior champions end up being the Olympic champions in 2014.

    pani, can you translate Platov article for us:
    http://www.sports.ru/others/figure-skating/69204356.html
     
  10. pani

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    Platov said.

    I said to Moir - you could be two time Olympic Champion, like i am. But it will be only if they will not retried. It really hard now to made all this elements on level 4. It could be hard for your knees, thats why i think they will retried. But if they could skater in next 4 years, they could have ther same results, like i have (to be two time Olympic Champions). Its very hard with new system, but they have a chance.
    They are an improbable champions. Look at there elements, there skating. A lot of people didnt like this new system, because we could see reall dance under COP. I dont think so - if people have a creative vision of the ice dance, watch, what dance they skated at OG. To be honets i had goose-skin during there perfomance. I forget - it was new system or it was old system - it was DANCE. If skaters could show this - you didnt see all this akward step sequenses you see only dance.
    This system is very young. Some years ago ice dancers could made only 2-3 rotations in twizzles, but today they made 8 rotations with lifting legs ot hands. And people understand now, that twizzles is very important element. Did you heard an applause during twizzles today? Before people didnt know nothing about this element.
    I like 3 perfomances - V-M, D-W- they have super FD and skated with greate power and emotionals. I tought they will be a champions, because the beat canadianse during this season. And i like Domnina-Shabalin perfomace - they was better, then at ECh.
    In old system judges gave marks, because they like this program or dont like. But today you have your marks for elements. If you made element - you will have 5 points. If you cant- you will not have 5 points. Thats all.


    I want post, that during video interwie journalist said to Platov - its interesting, that most fair joudging was in ice dance.
    Platov answer - yes. I agree with top 3. Maybe i had questions with top fibe.

    Sorry for bad english
     
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  11. icedance

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    Thank you Pani for the translation.

    First time I fell in love with ice dance was because of G&P, second time because of V&M. What a treat to see Evgeni appreciates V&M so much :)
     
  12. maggylyn

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    pani, I really appreciate all the translations you do.

    Thank you.
     
  13. bookworm

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    Me too! I keep thinking this song would be so ironic, or whatever you want to call it, depending on your opinion.
     
  14. Carmen Ovsiannikov

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    How about "Lovegame?" :p

    I think that V&M could become two time Olympic champions myself but it depends on what they want (unfortunately it's not all about me :D). I'm waiting to see what Scott and Tessa's plans are for the next year (I'm not even thinking that far ahead to 2014). As good as they are now, they have so much more to show with their skating.
     
  15. BellaSTRARSSA!

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    Thanks, Pani!

    It's great to see that support for them from a 2-time OGM, someone who's probably literally seen everything in ice dance.

    Perhaps they might work with him in the future on a program? I'm not familar with all the teams he's coached, so I'm not sure I've seen much of his choreography.
     
  16. mishieru07

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    I approve. :respec: I'm dying to see them do a really risque exhibition. (Alternatively, I think Hungry Eyes would be a fab choice too, seeing how much Scott stares at Tessa during interviews! :lol:)

    I guess it really depends. There's quite a good bunch of juniors currently (Shibus, I/K), plus all the younger senior teams like Samuelson/ Bates, Russian # 3, Marlie etc. It's figure skating; a lot of things can happen in 4 years. Kinda shocking to think 2 of our OGMs from Vancouver were WJC just 4 years ago! It doesn't feel that long ago!

    YAYE thanks pani for the translation! And yes, I would like to see V/M collaborate with Platov (Kerrs Kerrs!! :D).
     
  17. bbkenn

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    I totally agree. I wish they would be around for the next 4 years...I think they're only just beginning to tap into their talent.
     
  18. piano18

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    and to think four years ago they couldn't even beat Morgan Matthews !!!
     
  19. OlieRow

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    Yea, but I think there's something to be said for pacing and development. While I'm sure they really wanted to beat M/Z, they were being groomed for Vancouver 2010. There's something to be said about developing a tad slower, but in a happier and healthier (well... minus last season's roadblock) way. Morgan Matthews is one of ice dance's most unfortunate stories while Tessa & Scott are Olympic Champions. I think part of it was M/Z were being heavily pushed for the 3rd Olympic spot in 2006 (and there was all the pressure that came with that) while Tessa & Scott pretty much knew their time was going to be 2010.
     
  20. pani

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    I must say, i liked team Matthews-Zavozin.I love there "Tango Roxan" FD at 2006 and "Pianist soundtrack" FD in 2007. I think Morgan is really greate ice-daner and she have elegants and greate expression. But maybe in one point of there career she start listen, what people talking about her team with Max - that she was much better, then her patner. And she want to find someone, who will be better for her. In ther same time, teams, like D-W, B-A didnt listen, what people talk about there relationships on the ice and didnt want change patner and then took silver at OG. I think M-Z could have good results, but they needed waited some time.
    V-M try hard to go to 2006 OG too. But its greate, that they wasnt there, because at that ages they couldnt skate senior FD clean - it was hard for so young skaters.
     
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  21. pani

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    I saw that too pani, it's great! CTVOlympics hasn't posted their full FD on youtube, but they have posted a "Gold Medal Moment," which is basically a short series of highlights from their FD. It has over 300 000 views :)
     
  23. pani

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    :eek:
     
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  27. Rafter

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    Here's another Russian press article with quotes from Platov.

    http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/SkateFans/message/196806

    Interesting comment from Platov but I think D&W are very close to V&M, especially in the OD and FD. If both teams stick around for a few more years I see them trading places 1-2-1-2 at major competitions.
     
  28. pani

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    At another interwie Platov said, that he know, what to do to beat canadians, but he need to have apeciall studience for this. Journalist ask him - and when you could have them& Platov - one coache said, that he waite his best sakter 15 years, i have a time :D.

    Yes, Platov like D-W. I think because they are more close to russain drama style, then V-M.
    I think we could see a lot off surprizes in next 4 year. Maybe in next year we fell in love with super-programs drom Chocl-Zurlein and Shibutanies (like this was with V-M and D-W in 2006-2007 season).
    We could see really strong teams from Russia, who compete today at JWCh.
    At leats i will waite progress from Samuelson-Bates - they have all to be one of the best champions - posture, expression, sinchro, technick.
    Its hard to say now....
     
  29. Rafter

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    Morgan Matthews (or Matthews & Zavozin) is a good reason why one should never get too excited about junior skaters.
     
  30. Rafter

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    The problem here though it Max Zavozin is not very talented. Morgan was way above his level of skating. I saw him at the Olympics and he is quite weak IMO. I'm not surprised at all that Matthews looked elsewhere.
     
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