Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Proustable, Jan 20, 2013.
i was just joking i thought i made that obvious. i dont really think that.
That's a very nice post, Holley!
I wonder if the cramp has something to do with the spin? With the changes, it seemed like the part where Scott holds Tessa's blade makes Tessa's foot come in a lot closer to her body than before. Though the cramp didn't happen til a bit later, maybe that's what set it off.
Agree, Holley! Very nice
That occurred to me earlier.
agree, that is a lovely post, Holley
interesting point, sap5. I hadn't thought about that.
I don't know if this sheds any further light on what happened, but I just thought I'd post a quote from Tessa on what happened today:
"I just had some cramp in my legs to deal with. I'm glad we collected ourselves and kept pushing through the program," Virtue said.
Very well said, Golighty!
It is not the time nor the place for these types of comments. I understand the need to defend your team, but do so in your own thread please - this is a V/M fan thread. We try our best to try to prevent this thread from being about vilifying D/W, but like Golighty said, it is their prerogative to post those type of comments here.
And thanks Holley for that nice post - I think we're all cognizant of the fact that not all fans are alike.
On to more important matters ... The new thread title: I love both "Love is not a victory march" and "London Calling", although the latter is more apropos?
they probably didnt have enough rest prior to the FD competition. they probably trained for and practiced Carmen more than they should have since it hasnt been received as well as it should by the judges in their competitions with D/W. it wouldnt surprise me if that has been the circumstance prior to the FD, knowing their perfectionism for their programs.
Thank you so much, rvi5! I find it amusing how much of an interest the camera operator took into Scott's hand on Tessa's hip during the ceremony
Yes, they are perfectionists, and it will be perfect for Worlds. This is what I believe!
Here is my interpretation of the event...
Tessa is having trouble with her cramp and told Scott about it mid skate, but pushed to continue.
Scott while getting into the lift said "I can't do it" because he does not want to put Tessa into more possible pain.
They stopped, Tessa nursed her pain and decided she could continue and did.
They rocked it giving the circumstances.
I have nothing but admiration for Tessa and Scott, and find it hilarious the haters are having a field day. Oh so predictable haters, at least come up with something new like this is an elaborate plan to not win anything this season so they can have another fairytale ending next year in Sochi to top Vancouver and sell more books while sign a personal copy for their next for sure getting invited dinner date with the Queen.
I haven't watched it yet but I heard of course. I must admit I was dreading coming here and reading doom and gloom negativity, but I'm proud of us for the most part I think we're optimistic and realistic especially after the initial shock wore off. First off get better Tessa whatever the issue and don't ever jepordize your health for skating. It's just skating after all. Next I believe they will be ok and I still believe they can and will win worlds if they perform it. Carmen is an epic masterpiece that just can not be denied if they no what is good for this sport. SD blows me away as well what a treasure it has become. Lastly 'people' wanna gloat and be ignorant let them. They can stand and laugh but they can never take away the FACT that V/M are 2 time World Champs and Olympic Champs forever and ever period. They have changed this sport, they are loved, admired and respected not only by fans world wide but by their peers. They are legends and this incident doesn't change that. So point and pass judgement when you have no idea and never could because you are not her. Injuries can happen to anyone at any time just remember that. Worlds, the one that matters and can change everthing is still to come.
BTW I love both titles for the new thread as well. I probably would be hands down for 'London Calling' but given the circumstances the other seems fitting.
w o w their haters are so ridiculous
i think tessa was the one that really asked to stop, not scott. if you look at their movements after that aborted lift, it looked like scott was ready to continue but tessa wasnt. that's why, after that aborted lift, i really think scott mouthed "it's okay, it's okay", not "i can't do it", to assure tessa that even if she didnt want to do the lift, they can still continue with the rest of the program.
Yea, I agree that it looked like Scott was about to continue, but was unsure about it . My initial impression was that they communicated that they'd skip the lift and continue, but then Tessa couldn't. That would make sense if it looked like he said "I'm sorry" after, because he looked like he intended to keep going.
It'd be really interesting to hear what they say if they had mics on. Not necessarily this event, just like, their key words and communication in general.
I agree - I am probably going to stay away from that place for a while. It just gets me angry. Honestly the only place right now that seems safe from the haters is the Tessa and Scott facebook group.
If anyone's awake, this is a Eurosport link to the gala...
Virtue and Moir are there.
bmcg, I, too, hate it when all fans get lumped together. Thankfully, only one person seems to be doing that here.
and thank you so much, Fort! That is great news!
Guys, feel sorry, I forget post about standing ovations for DW. I was so busy with thoughts about Tess
a and miss one word in my message. I am sorry my message start all this war. If someone could watch gala, please post how Tessa look like
hauntingly beautiful. Tessa was exquisite. *chills*
ETA: Now that I have found some words, I just wanted to add that Tessa seemed to be smiling and dancing to the beat in the finale. It was really nice to see that. The girl always puts on a brave face, but I am going to take this, and the fact that they skated in the gala at all, as a good sign.
and walei, I thought your post was sooo funny! thanks for that, I needed a good laugh
I hope the fsu VM thread can be like a VM bubble... just as they have one, we have can form one too. Actually, the only time I ever hear about the "negativity" is when it's reported about in here. Wouldn't it be the dream to just cut out that drivel by not repeating it over and over?...repetition reinforces and strengthens the reach of all that negativity. We do have some power here to limit its reach. I also suggest that we save a future thread title for something about a bubble, like "our bubble", or "the VM bubble", referring to not only a place to celebrate VM but also a place to celebrate the VM fan, a place that can be safe and positive, with constructive dialogue and connections made.
eta: I'm still for "love is not a victory march". Also, reflecting upon what I just wrote, diversity of opinion is important too...I suppose that negativity would come with that. Oh dear, the freedom-of-internet-speech is a tricky one.
Hello all, T/S were just wonderful in exhibition, and I was so happy to see smiling Tessa at the end!
Anyways, I just wanted to cheer you up, guys.
Some pages before we talked about Tessa and My Little Ponies ( ) and even didn't know WHAT is going to happen.
Can we just remember all the beautiful and funny moments what we have had with them and send them supportive vibrations?
Tessa just send us her beautiful smile to say:"Life is going to continue!"
Sending 100 of hugs to you all.
The second half of the gala performances. Virtue and Moir are at about 29:40 and then again in the finale.
Thank you! Its great news for me they were in gala and she was smiling!
And thanks for your post. They are such strong and optimistic people. So - lest smile and no matter, what with going, just smile and try catch every moment of this joy - V-M in competitive skating.
I'm a Natalie & Fabian fan first BUT love watching both Tessa & Scott & Meryl & Charlie. I enjoyed watching both the SD & FD & was gutted when Tessa had to stop as I was swept away by their FD. I can understand the high levels that Meryl & Charlie get but I feel that Tessa & Scott DANCE more than any other couple.
Daniskates93-I feel your pain. Leg cramp is the WORSE pain I have ever been through
Hope Natalie & Fabian and Keythlyn with Andrew will be at WCh. Pray for them all. Without this teams WCh will not be the same for me.
V-M Carmen more hot than before There is lot off sex. when there is so much sex you need break. Then sex get better
I'm glad to see Tessa was OK for the gala. Muscle cramps are no fun at all; it has to have been hard for her to continue skating, and she has my respect.
Here's a version of the gala link that goes directly to the start of their lovely "Hallelujah" Ex, after you click on the Play arrow.
Well said! We should not forget their continuous string of podium finishes. In fact they have only once not been on the podium since they hit seniors - their first year. This is a tremendous achievement.
I have stayed away from the board a bit due to travel and also negativity. I have reached a place in my heart where I only want to enjoy them for the next few skates whatever the outcome. In the light of their health and their string of achievements and in the light of their pushing the boundaries more than any one else ( in my opinion) in these difficult COP days I think they have done a remarkable job.
Go Tessa & Scott!!
Okay I know that this will never happen since its the season before the Olympics, but what if Tessa and Scott went to Igor next season? They already know him so it won't be that weird and then they could use Swan for their choreography.
Also there would be so much more drama and shade between Marina and Igor which would be entertaining.
Guys, who will go to WCh in London. Did you already bought Virtue and Moir World’s T-shirts Join the “Yellow Wave”?
I think you need to buy one and show all support to V-M (and from us, who couldnt go, too )/
I think this will be great title for thread during WCh, no? I mean “Yellow Wave”.
From what i read in russian press this will be unlucky. Look like Igor wish to have Meryl and Charlie back, but not T-S. Maybe SC need to ask him.
And at 4CC he left C-B along for FD and went to Bavarian Open to support Tobais-Stagnionas, he wasnt at ECh. So he couldnt find good accictent yet.
Pani, where are the "yellow wave" shirts being sold? First I've heard of this. I'm planning to get the Toller Cranston poster.
Keep speaking up, positive people! We need voices of reason and some calm here. I was appalled at the vicious nasty outpouring yesterday when I first heard of the dance result. Then I reminded myself that it's just a month from World's and that's when the baiters and trolls come out in full force. Time to draw back, as emdee wisely suggests, and try to keep some perspective.
It always amazes me that we listen to a few negative voices that manage to yell the loudest when the majority speak in calm reasoned positive tones! I know it has been said for years:"don't feed the trolls!" We should start using our ignore buttons.
And pani, you did not start this so don't apologize.
Positive thoughts for Worlds! May all skaters skate their best!
I read about it on Ilderton skating club FB page. You could see it there and read message from Alma Moir with informationa about prize, sizes, how to buy.
Have I missed where we talked about Scott not gelling his hair for the FD? It was one of the bright spots for me, for sure!
Yes, we talked about this - like about something good in this situation
I mentioned it yesterday to lighten the mood in the midst of the shock, but nobody bit.
But now that everyone is calmer..perhaps people can start breaking down the performance (including hair).
This is wishful thinking, but sometime I do wonder whether someone from V/M's team visits this forum from time to time.
I'm quite partial to that potential title as well. It seems fitting.
Love how Scott really intensely tells Tessa "Awesome!" at the end of the gala. Could there be a more supportive partner than Scott?
Pani where have you read this? It is about time for the annual V/M thread "should they move coaches" debate
Well, I thought it looked fabulous, and was only more proof that Scott should never gel his hair again.
I love the costuming overall for this FD.
I always thought that D/W were Igor's team and V/M were Marina's? If V/M win Worlds, perhaps it's Meryl and Charlie who might want to head to Novi.
The Shibs, OTOH, definitely need to get out of Canton.
Serious use of gel and other hair products should be left to true professionals. Like Takahashi.
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