Virtue/Moir #24: We Like it Hot

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Proustable, Jan 20, 2013.

  1. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

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  2. CatherineC

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    Poor Tessa. I just want to hug her now.

    Maybe it's again my idiotic fantasies, but for me in that only press conference picture it looked like Tessa's eyes are a little bit red and she had cried.

    Anyways, sending the best vibrations for them. :wuzrobbed
  3. Shayii

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    And the backlash has started. Skaters are complaining on twitter about them not getting penalized. Lol seriously can this get any worse. If they decided to call it quits after this I will completely understand. Apparently Tessa and Scott just wanted a "breather."
  4. Marta24

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    Oh man,this is so depressing.I wish her all the best in the world.I hope they can have a few days rest and then focus on their preparation of WCH.
  5. aka_gerbil

    aka_gerbil Rooting for the Underdogs

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    I wouldn't blame them in the least either. Sometimes, you just need to walk away...
  6. sap5

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    Why do you care so much about what people are saying on twitter?

    They weren't penalized because the rules don't allow for that. If some people want to make themselves look bad by showing their ignorance of the rules, let them.

    If they want the rules to change in the future, then fine. The result will be less risky (and probably more recycled) lifts, because who wants to risk injury and then be penalized for it?
  7. Shayii

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    It's not just anybody though, it's their fellow ice dancers.
  8. zilam98

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    at the rate this thread is going, we might need a new thread and title pretty soon. any ideas? something inspiring/hopeful for Worlds perhaps?
  9. rainbowkisses

    rainbowkisses Banned Member

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    smh i thought sinead kerr was above that
  10. bmcg

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    I don't have twitter. Did she post the same thing when it happened to the Shibs?
  11. Rafter

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    Were these same skaters saying the same thing about Shibutani when this happened to him earlier in the season?

    Btw, which skaters are saying this?
  12. sap5

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    It doesn't look like she's hating to me. It looks like she's questioning the rule.
  13. Rafter

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    I just looked at her twitter page and didn't see much wrong with what she said. She was questioning the rules and why there was no deduction. Frankly, I agree with her and thought the same when it happened to the Shibs earlier. There should be a deduction.
  14. Golightly

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    It was Sinead Kerr and she said she found the rule to be wrong there, but what you fail to mention is that she said that she loves Tessa and Scott and she considers them one of the all time greats. I think you take Twitter way too seriously. I see no backlash from the skaters.

    Also, what Rafter said.
  15. VarBar

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    If Tessa's leg cramps go away and she feels better, I would definitely expect them to compete at Worlds. I can't see them letting the Canadian audience down just because some skaters are complaining on twitter that V/M didn't get penalized.
  16. Rafter

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    I can see them skating at Worlds because it's only a month away, but if it's the same problem she had before, I question if they'll be in Sochi.

    To me she was really struggling. She wasn't even bowing like normal and seemed to need help getting onto the podium.
  17. Shayii

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    IDK if they said the same thing when it happened to them, but IDK I just feel bad for T and S right now. It's Sinead Kerr and some other one (forgot her name). I'll miss them but if they retire I'll understand and everybody will be happy; Tessa doesn't have to deal with leg problems anymore and D/W will get Olympic gold.
  18. Golightly

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    Man, I am so glad some of you weren't around in 2009.
  19. rainbowkisses

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    i dont remember :(
    but its amazing how when the shibs stop in the middle of a skate because of injury no one complains that they should get a deduction but when v/m do everyone complains
  20. zilam98

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    this season does feel like 2009 all over again, doesnt it?
  21. Bue

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    I can understand this, TBH. Not that the Shibs aren't a great team, but it doesn't matter to the same extent. V/M are one of the top two teams vying for every title. People are going to pay more attention.
  22. bmcg

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    I can't get the ISU website to function properly on this computer (it flashes all the time) but there is a rule for deductions for interruptions in excess of 5 seconds. It's -1.00 for 6-15 secs and -2.00 for 16-30 secs. What isn't clear is if the deduction is taken when the skater is injured or cramping such as what appears to be the case with Alex in Russia and Tessa here. Either there are exceptions or the referee forgot to take the deduction (maybe they forgot to time it?). So I don't think the system itself is broken but a matter of clarification. It's good that here it didn't affect the results unlike last seasons errors with the lift calculations that did affect results.

    The good news (and we all need some) is there were NO timing deductions on the lift and as sad as I am to see the old one go the new spin garnered the marks they wanted. So :cheer: ;)
  23. DORISPULASKI

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    I just hope Tessa's legs are going to be OK, and that this is just a transitory problem :wuzrobbed:
  24. pani

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    Only after SD she talked about OG and how they want to be there. This girl is a reall fighter.
    Maybe i will be more happy, if Tessa will stay healthy and happy, then will fight for second gold, when nobody know - will they get it ot it is in D-W hands already. So i will choose - greate happy life after skating.
    But from other hand - she skated really well in first part and in second part. So maybe it was acclimatization and nervous tension? I feel like she felt strong at Nationals, no? Maybe working with close rivals didnt work for her anymore?
    So i dont know. Wish her all the best.
    Will see - will be they at Gala tomorrow/
  25. pani

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    I feel its a little different- she skated during all the season.
    You know, if they had easy lifts, i am sure Scott could did it along and Tessa could have rest. But they all the time try to made something ober the top.
  26. bmcg

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    I've thought a few times this season that it might not be so much of a benefit anymore. I think Krylova was on to something last year. I don't think either team will give up Marina though so I don't see it changing. But I would like to see what each team could come up with next season without the other team watching and with a coach trying to make them #1 instead of trying to make them equal.
  27. Golightly

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    No, I don't think so. As Pani mentioned, they have looked way more solid this year.

    Look, it is a fact that Tessa has leg issues, cramping is also a reality in this sport, as in any really, but more so here. They continued, let's not forget that. Tessa knows better than to risk a new injury after skating in pain for so many years, so I doubt she would have decided to continue if the pain was shin-related. Also, note how fast it was all going.
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  28. HSGP21

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    The poor things. I have a feeling her compartment syndrome has never and will never be truly fixed.
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    I agree. It's true that her condition will never go away, but she's wise enough not to risk an injury. If she hadn't been able to, she wouldn't have continued.
  30. DaiKozOda

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    I'm really sad that this incident happened. Tessa and Scott were looking great up until that moment and they seemed to have recovered well afterwards. On a side note, isn't it great to see how Scott always supports Tessa and looks protective? If I was skating ice-dance, I wanted a partner just like him. This problem hurt their final score and now we can only speculate how the outcome would have been if both teams had skated clean. Would it be good enough or not (in the eyes of the judges) to beat Meryl and Charlie?
    However, I firmly believe Tessa and Scott will be stellar at the world championships. They will be there fighting for the gold. I don't think anybody can say that Meryl and Charlie have it in the bag. Carmen is a much more demanding free dance from a choreographical point of view and it's much original. Considering the changes that Tessa and Scott had in the FD after the GPF plus getting into better form, they may rock the house in London.
  31. pani

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    Guys, you all saw her at Nationals. did you have feeling she wasnt OK?
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    I doubt we will ever see or determine if everything is okay or not based on their performances. I mean look at the Olympics. Who knew Tessa was counting steps to save her legs back then? I really, really hope this is just some random cramps all athletes suffers at one point or another in their careers. She was able to continue so that's a good sign. I hope.

    But the tendency sometimes is if things like this happen to a team like the Shibs, either people not pay attention or they blame the rules. With V/M being who they are, some people would probably blame both the rules and VM.

    And I do hope they will be in the gala, because not only will it mean things are not as bad as some of us are secretly fearing, but for the selfish reason that I need some sweet Hallelujah after this. But only if they can.
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  33. bmcg

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    I didn't. I felt she skated great at Nationals. I also don't think they would be doing such a demanding, difficult program if she were not healthy. They don't need to do all the things they do to achieve those levels. Just look at the lifts of I&K to see how easy a level four is to obtain. I think it's just one of those horrible moments that happens. Maybe the heat got to her and she suffered heat cramps:
    http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/heat-cramps
    I think she is and will be fine, just a really unfortunate time for that to happen.
  34. smileyskate

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    I hope she will be ok. Looks like he just could not hoist her into the lift on time without her helping herself.
    I don't know about him waving the camera man away. I think they pay a lot of $ to film everything in certain areas of the rink. The reality element and behind the scenes stuff is big right now. (Of course there are exceptions say if a costume falls down and exposes things, etc.).
  35. pani

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    I hope you are right. Will hope.
    And i agree. At 2010 OG they didnt have such difficult program. All Tessas problems start from the OD.
    From other hand - they had it year before OG.
    But last season they had FF with slow part for the rest, no? I thought Tessa feel better, thats why they made such a difficult FD.
    At Nationals i thought they were very light on there fett. And in SD at 4CC.
  36. Skating678

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    I don't really understand why Tessa getting a cramp in her leg = she must be on her deathbed. But maybe that's just me.
  37. aka_gerbil

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    Because all of her previous problems with chronic exertional compartment syndrome, including 2 surgeries to deal with it?
  38. bmcg

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    Normally it shouldn't. I think people overreact in her case because she has had severe problems in the past requiring surgery. I personally think she will be fine and at Nationals and in the SD here they were light on their feet and floating over the ice. To me it looks like one of those "why now" moments which is probably why she looked so gutted.
  39. Skating678

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    But it is not like they withdrew from the competition or something.
    In 2009 she was in a wheelchair. I don't see how people can compare that to this season.
  40. Golightly

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    I think you are right.