Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Proustable, Jan 20, 2013.
? where is this from?
George Stroumboulopoulos. Looks like it was filmed when they were in Toronto for the CN Tower thing.
chan on strombo http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/mobile-vi...-falling-masculinity-and-blades-of-glory.html
strombo lifting patrick http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/photo-alb...-patrick-chan-a-lift-hes-been-working-on.html
the archives may have the full interview tomorrow . . .
second flight for v/m. last flight for d/w. if you think skate position affects scores . . . assuming both skate fabulously, i feel like they'll hold back on v/m to see what d/w can do and once they've seen d/w (basically last), they're free to pile it on. but skating after g/p will only help . . . night and day.
Thank you, that sounds cute. Sending positive energy to Tess and Scott right now.
Misha I'm trying to be positive right now so I wouldn't say how I feel about the start orders lol.
as much as they want to say that they mark only what's on the ice right then, they're still comparing, if even for consistency. and if v/m and d/w are skating so far apart, then it becomes a problem. tessa and scott might as well skate first and d/w last for how logical this starting order is. i don't now think they'll lose the sd, but it's a disadvantage -- not just skating before d/w but being so far away that they're in another flight
Aw BKF, seriously your attention to detail is amazing! Very sweet, thank you.
IIRC didn't Tess /Scott dance in a previous group to M/C at 2011 Worlds SD. I thought I remembered them being marked higher at that event in SD.?? Or could have been 4C's.
I know what you mean. But they drew the number themselves so it's just bad luck. But it's all good.
Ofdarkness, the W/P video is posted in their thread
George Strombo is a seriously talented, wickedly smart media personality (his radio show is off the hooks too) and some of his interviews are top of the heap because he actually listens actively to his guests and reacts to the moment. Looking forward to seeing the Patrick/VM interview.
alternatively, being surrounded by such low ranked teams can make judges appreciate v/m that much more no? ok, no. anyway, 2011 was a long time ago, things have changed . . . i'm not saying that they're guaranteed to lose the sd with this draw, but it's not the best.
what if they HAD picked first and d/w last? jeez, stick with world rankings and figure something else out for those who don't have rankings. you want to group teams together who have the same talent.
overall though. i'm pretty mellow. i still haven't decided if i think they'll win or lose, but neither is a big deal to me. maybe i've just been a fan for too long and i just take everything in stride.
Don't wish falls on other people. It's bad karma.
I can't believe she was serious with that. I would never want my team to win because others fell or made other major mistakes. I don't think it's funny at all. I hope the comment is deleted.
i never wished that on them im just saying that its possible. anything is possible *shrug*
also if im creating bad karma for v/m, then d/w must have alot of bad karma considering their stans always flat out wish for v/m to fall
Then let them say that. You don't have to stoop to that level.
i know this is too late but i just found a live stream
75.12 not bad
75.12 ... not bad I think that's a PB for them for the SD, IIRC.
T/S have 0.44 lead.
Tessa and Scott are in 1st place after the SD... YIPPEEEEEE Even if it's only by 0.44 but considering the odds were stacked against them, this is great news! Looks like they received our good vibes! Let's continue to send good vibes for the FD.
I still don't understand how D/W continue to beat them in PCS, but I'm no expert.
I haven't seen any videos yet (I just got home), but how did they skate?
It was a beautiful skate.
It was a wonderful skate, although I think their polka at Nationals was skated more smoothly. I thought their expression during the polka was fantastic though.
Here are the protocols for the SD: http://www.isuresults.com/results/fc2013/fc2013_IceDance_SD_Scores.pdf
It was gorgeous.
Very good skate, but I don't love the ending pose. It seems rushed and they don't seem they can stay in character long enough.
I really love the straightline sequence.
Aw they got rid of the little hug at the beginning. And I too love the straightline sequence; so pretty!
I really loved the begginning this time, I didn't like it very much in Can Nats, but the end in Canadians was MUCH better. This time it was kinda weird. And I even can't tell you why...
Of course, it's only 0.44, but I will cross my fingers about them to save first place on Sunday.
V&M won the SD? Yay them Cool.
I'm actually surprised. Not because I believe that Tessa and Scott didn't have a great SD or the potential to skate well within them but because many (including some V&M fans and more importantly the judges) have seemed to give D&W the nod for the SD. I haven't seen the performance yet so I can't comment on the very narrow lead.
On paper with a clean skate I'd say that if V&M can win the SD then the FD (Carmen!) should be theirs as well but this quad you never say never. I hope this continues through the FD as well.
Winning the SD if nothing else should further relax Tessa and Scott going into their FD performance. Which is a good thing. Good luck in the FD Tessa and Scott.
After SD Scott said to Oleg - its OK Look like Marina like how they skated this time.
D-W had notceable mistake from Charlie in SS and get level 3 for it, but huge GOe.
They get on 0,2 ,ore in PCS (the most part is CC and transitions).
If they skated clean T-S could be second.
They skated so close to each other in step sequence and i am happy they get levek 4 for it. And they skated big and i love this.
Plus they were in character (IMHO).
Good luck in FD! Wish to them skate clean with there passion.
Yes, but Tessa and Scott also got level 3 in one of their polka sequences. If they too got level 4 in that sequence, and everything else was exactly the same, including the GOE for it (and D/W step sequence GOE), they would have lost by 0.06 points. And they still would have lost because of PCSs, not because of the technical score. But we can't really tell have it would have been.
Again - I wish them very, very good luck in the FD. Because if they can't get level 4 at least on one of their step sequences there, then it's going to be even tougher.
One of the British Eurosport commentators called them the best ice dancers since Torvill and Dean ("Maybe apart for Torvill and Dean, the finest dancers I have ever seen"). Some seriously high praise.
Guys, you could watch SD in better quality
Its funny, canadian judge gave them 3 10th. And we will not have her at WCh
Yes. But then he said D-W must win, because Charlie were on today This commentators love all skaters. Good for them and for us.
When is the free dance?
The FD is tomorrow night.
Very happy to see them in first, even if it's just by a little. D&W won PCS by Choreo & Transitions, which is reasonable, and Skating Skills, which I guess was due to speed. Carmen has more/better Choreo & Transitions than Notre Dame, so that should bode well in the FD.
Here is the start order for the FD... pretty much the ideal draw, isn't it? Full benefit of the warmup, but not off the ice too long, and right after D&W.
Ice Dance - Free Dance
StN. Name Nation Rank Points
Warm-Up Group 1
1 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG
2 Pilar MAEKAWA MORENO / Leonardo MAEKAWA MORENO
3 Anna NAGORNYUK / Viktor KOVALENKO
4 Bryna OI / Taiyo MIZUTANI
Warm-Up Group 2
5 Danielle OBRIEN / Gregory MERRIMAN
6 Nicole ORFORD / Thomas WILLIAMS
7 Cathy REED / Chris REED
8 Emi HIRAI / Marien DE LA ASUNCION
Warm-Up Group 3
9 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE
10 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR
11 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER
12 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
13 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
Separate names with a comma.