Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Golightly, Oct 9, 2013.
Also, thanks for the report, Emdee. Glad you are enjoying yourself!
So they are really thinking about moving the twizzles. Like I said before, if they have to, just do it. I'm sure they will come up with something equally wonderful or even better.
Ohhh man, if they are getting emotional before going out and skating I may be a basketcase when I go see them at Canadians.
Perhaps for their peace of mind they should say what they've said all these past years -- we're taking it one year at a time. When this season is over, we'll take stock of things and see if it's the right time to call a halt to our competitive career. It has worked for them all this time so maybe knowing this is the "last time ..." for so many things, the emotions are getting in the way of them keeping their focus.
I forgot to tell you one thing. In the warm up Scott shouted out.... It wasn't a full roar but a mini roar.....I thought it was cool.
Professordeb, we are getting so emotional for them how much harder must it be for them to hold it together.
Pani is the only calm one this season.....
Hope they don't do away with the champagne hands (?) for their twizzles. It's a lovely detail that ties the twizzles in with the dance.
Kaitlyn is such a sweetheart.
Those twizzles made me nervous but overall, I agree that it was a great performance. We all know Farracus was a labour of time and adjustments so I have no doubt that they'll get this SD there. But can we just focus on how smooth and gorgeous that SS was? *sigh* I could watch that ALL day, EVERY day!
I thought they were just spectacular. I am a serious fan of Weaver and Poje but having seen both couples live at CSOI and at Canadians - Tessa and Scott are just the class of the field. I admit (ashamedly) that I am not the biggest fan of the short dance as a concept. I get what the ISU were going for but most of them I find disjointed and too element packed to enjoy. I am coming to love this one of Tessa and Scott's. Tessa did mention the shortage of rest times in the short dance and how fast paced the Finstep is so I wonder if that contributes to tired legs going into the twizzles. That might be reason to change their location. Anyway, I feel very optimistic - now if we could just shut Rod Black up I would be really happy.
Tessa and Scott are ALIENS.
there can't possibly be a greater team than this one.
For me, they are two, three, four times Olympic gold medalists.
p.s. Tessa, will you marry me??
Good scores considering the mistakes who were quite obvious. A bit low on PCS though IMO.
The best pure icedancers in the field without a doubt. This SD really is dancing on ice; V&M practically floated across the ice.
I just finished watching the SD four times in a row. You just can't take your eyes off of Tessa and Scott. Everything they do has a purpose and fits perfectly with the theme of the program. Nothing is thrown in there just for the heck of it. Even though some of us (yep, I'm including myself in that "us") can get nervous wondering whether V&M are challenging themselves for no reason (the judges sometimes just haven't seemed to appreciate what they do), just looking at this program as a piece of choreography; a piece of art I get why they do what they do. V&M don't want to go out there and just present their elements in a SD that is forgotten two seconds after it ends. And worry about the marks aside, I love them for doing that. I can still see the program, hear the music in my head. Nothing about V&M is forgettable.
Golightly, that step sequence is brilliant. Everything about this program is mesmerizing. The deep edges V&M carve as they move about one another, the shapes their bodies make; Tessa is exquisite. And the expression...everything is there. Even alone Tessa is the best female dancer in the field while Scott is the best of the men. Put that pair together and it's magic pure and simple.
IMO this program is the best SD of the season and once V&M take care of the twizzle issue (I can see what people mean by the champagne hands), I think they can most definitely do quite well with it.
Tessa's dress is gorgeous as well, I love the style. If V&M do change costumes, I think Tessa should keep the general design of her dress and maybe just a change in color always sticking with stronger tones rather than pastels. I think though the black is elegant and fits the program.
Okay, gushing over. I need to see that again.
I finally watched the SD. Shame about the mistake. It was upsetting to see them upset. I'm sure they were mad at themselves for the bobble. I'm no Marina fan, but I did feel bad for her because it looked like she was trying to cheer them up a bit, but they weren't having none of that and ignored her and she stared at them not knowing what to do lol.
ETA: I have to agree with everything you said Carmen. The quality of everything they do is really quite astonishing.
Guys, look at this
Thanks for report!
I think it was much better, then in Finland. In Finland Tessa had some problems from the begining? then some mistakes on Finnstepp and then twizzles.
I think if we are talking about choreo this could be best SD of the season, no?
Nobody else didnt play so much attention to the ballroom dance this season. In 2012 a lot off teams try to show this mood, but noy now.
MarieM, i know, you didnt like SDs from this season. What do you thinkj about VM SD?
I already said it pani : it's the only good SD so far from all the ones I've seen. They've got the quickstep right (at least in the feel maybe a little work on the steps) and it's classy not tacky. The music is wonderfull not jarring, I ask for not much more
Weaver and Poje come close, but they're lacking the quickstep feeling IMO.
pani, that gif is the moment before the music began? I loved that little saucy shimmy while still keeping it classy. Even before the program begins Tessa and Scott really set the mood. Every moment stands out.
And that picture illustrates what so many here have talked about before There is no position V&M hits that isn't perfectly aligned with one another and the music. Even though Tessa and Scott are in different positions as dictated by the choreography it still matches/fits. Someone else could probably explain it better. And the stretch of Tessa's leg along with the pointed toe and her posture. Whether live, on video or in a photo, everything is picture perfect.
This program makes me miss the days of ESPN or Universal Sports. This SD is definitely something I want to see on a large screen.
I cant not pay attention to this
Who is the auther? Is she is professioan sport journalst? She just show bad taste and the style is like 5-years girl write it.
Mhhhhhhh the article is nasty. Very nasty. Just ignore it !
It's amazing how every picture of them is picture perfect.
It was heartbreaking to see the twizzles and fear for them but today watching the whole program and divorcing the twizzle section one can see that the rest was spectacular.
Sure, it's not the first, and it certainly won't be the last nasty piece written as we approach Olympics and the rivalries intensify. But the fact that it's published by a website/organization which, despite being American, is supposed to remain neutral - that's disturbing. I don't see CBC or Skatebuzz presenting such a biased opinion.
I just watched the SD again focusing on their twizzles from the waist up only (looking to identify champagne hands of course ) and you couldn't tell there was a mistake. As Pani said, even their mistakes are synchronized
Contrary to the popular belief in this thread, Tessa and Scott seem to still be in the cards for the Olympic gold and quite far from the 4th or 5th place in the world.
Go Tessa and Scott, there's no one better in ice dancing than the glamorous and spectacular team of Virtue and Moir.
Not just on this thread but seemingly everywhere else too. I know where a lot of it has stemmed from and that it's borderline propaganda, but I can't help but be pleased to think 'they' are sweating a little today Expect a slew of negative comments to hit the web.
I only saw the mistake on the twizzles, but the rest seemed sublime.
Don't be ashamed I hate the SD concept as well. I think a lot of people do and I'm hoping they change/alter it after Sochi. I think that's the plan?
Ah, Rod Black, he has been especially annoying. I can't even remember how many time I screamed at his comments yesterday. Just some ridiculous statements made by him. Seems like he has less of a clue than normal,if that's possible.
With one mistake, while details on elements like the twizzles "can come out" it is these details that make the best so special. I think they can keep them in and do them just fine next time. Otherwise, why aside from reputation should the judges be able to award the stellar marks that they do? The ability to achieve mastery is so completely in V/M's reach, that it seems people looking for conservatism to "avoid mistakes" that to me, is not what greatness is about.
the funny side of greatness. the more they're attacked, the more it shows how great they are. i'm thinking of some legendary artists who were absolutely hated once they came on top. it's a flattering confirmation. so thank you, fake and spiteful journalist from icenetwork. you just added a tribute to their brilliance. things like this give me only pleasure.
ITA!!!! I groaned when I saw he was back this year. Rod Black should be banned from having anything to do with figure skating!
Man,that article is really nasty. If icenetwork already writes these kind of articles now,what are they going to do,when V/M will beat D/W at the Olympics?
What a disgusting article! Who is this idiot Amy Rosewater?! Can they just not write about VM at all instead of writing utter crap like that. Wow. I also love how she conveniently cuts the full quote made by Kaitlyn. This is actually what Weaver said Amy Rosewater:
If anybody needs evidence usfs is actively politicking against VM, read the article.
It sounds like tantrum, which in its own way is a form of compliment
I avoid all VM articles by ice network, and all commentators who speak English (except the British eurosport guy, because he's always happy for everyone!) Watching the Russian feeds has been so much nicer because I have no clue what they're saying so I can't get annoyed haha No one's taking my joy this season!
Is anyone at the FD practice today?
I agree MissJD!
I am with you - MissJD. I am forming a Tessa and Scott bubble around myself because I really want to enjoy their last (tear) season. Thanks so much to the wonderful posters who add so much knowledge and insight to this thread. I know Scott and Tessa wanted to skate perfectly yesterday for their fans because it was in Canada and my greatest wish as one of their fans is they let go of that and just skate for themselves. They owe Canada nothing - this year should be about them and their marvelous journey. They have been fine ambassadors in every way and I agree with Kaitlyn - the quintessential dance team of their time. They are legends.
LOVE, LOVE IT! They brought it to another level this competition, even with the tiny bobbles. Loving the costume changes...it somehow fits much better with the feel of music, if that makes sense. Oh, definitely how I had imagined it to be...but even better!
I thought the judging scoring was really fair, thank goodness It's all I hope for. I believe it will increase as the season progresses barring bobbles. Better to be realistic and fair now rather than inflated and undeserving. Not to be depressing, only thing I can think of why this may happen is only to put a better footing for their favourites ahead of time and then later cry foul should they later on being surpassed by other teams. (I am talking in generalities applied ALL teams of ALL nationalities, OK)...Speculation, perhaps. But, I don't see why it isn't the intention. Silly, cause I think it really boosts confidence as well as determination to skaters if they see scores climb steadily throughout the season.
Thanks for all those links (practices, SD program, post SD interview and news article (nope, won't even bother reading one from Icenetwork )!!!
The FD practice already looks promising (love the changes I saw so far)...I seriously can't wait for their FD!!!
(hey, is it just me or is Paul/Islam projecting image/representing like Tessa and Scott - skating wise and costume choices? It's meant as a compliment, btw Great skating from Weaver/Poje too. I always find her such a sweetheart and both have really good sportsmanship)
Guys - don't be so panic driven.
The referee at the event is Jean SENFT, a Canadian.
Take a look at the judging & technical panel from Vancouver where technical controller was Katalin Alpern (Israel).
And also, Tessa's face in a lift is always amazing. There's as little strain in her expression than if she were upright and smiling and someone. I've never seen anyone that serene in dance lifts.
Don't forget that Canadian Marie Bowness was technical specialist for last 2 World championships.
Does anybody have a link for the TSN coverage of the SD? Apparently Scott told Tessa he was going to cry before they started and she rubbed his back/shoulder. I think its the emotions of realizing this is their final season that's getting in the way at times.
I'm pretty sure the Russian feed says more great stuff about V/M than American and European feeds. Thats why V/M have so many great fans in Russia and thats why all the Russian coaches like them (like Zhulin).
Unfourtunately no I really want to see that. Scott did look sorta misty eyed and hopeful before they started and Tessa's face had a look that said "oh stop that you're going to make me cry too!" http://25.media.tumblr.com/e6ab5b17259579b5330e6174cf5c6fc5/tumblr_mv9az5LLfb1s09a3jo1_400.gif
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