Virtue and Moir #38: Simply Timeless

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Golightly, Mar 3, 2014.

  1. Golightly

    Golightly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2010
    Messages:
    1,232
    Carry on everyone. :)

    Interesting. http://bevsmithwrites.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/the-next-step-for-canadian-skating-stars/

    Tessa on that press conference in Sochi:

    “I think some of the things we were honest about at that press conference would come as no surprise to Marina. She was very aware of the situation. Any awkwardness that we feel now, we’ve been feeling for a little while anyway.”

    I like this frank Tessa.

    Also like that the two teams had a chance to talk. Very positive.
     
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2014
  2. zilam98

    zilam98 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,147
    i wish it were v/m that would participate in shows like DWTS (if they have something similar in canada) just to witness their gifts on the dancefloor, but it would be interesting how d/w will fare in that show--like how DANCEY they can get on the dancefloor without the benefit of all the on-ice smoke and mirrors they've been flouting as ice-dancing
     
  3. Golightly

    Golightly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2010
    Messages:
    1,232
    If they're doing that, they won't be partners. Doesn't one get a star or something? I hate that show, I find it ridiculous. I prefer the one with real dancing, So You Think You Can Dance.
     
  4. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2002
    Messages:
    13,985
    Where are those quotes from Tessa on Smith's blog coming from? An interview?

    ETA: Just read the previous thread... press conference.
     
  5. princeton123

    princeton123 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2014
    Messages:
    312
    DWTS is not a good show and it's kind of a weird, head-scratchy choice for me personally, but hey, figure skaters and their reality shows...

    Tessa would clean. it. up. on a show like DWTS - she is such a phenomenally talented dancer. Seeing her do things like the samba FD and group choreography where everybody else looks awkward and unsure really proves that.
     
  6. marbri

    marbri Hey, Kool-Aid!

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2001
    Messages:
    11,189
    Cherub. It seems Skate Canada had some sort of press conference today. I don't see anything on their website or twitter but I've seen various tweets with quotes from them. Must have been a notice sent out to press.
     
  7. zilam98

    zilam98 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,147
    yes, they won't be partners in a show similar to dwts. it's dance-lite. SYTYCD might be a little too tasking on v/m who has had a history of injuries. even though tessa has had ballet background, she has not been doing it mainly and on the floor as the other participants on that show would have been.
     
  8. Rafter

    Rafter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    9,941
    Cannot wait to see V/M work with some new people.

    I sense things must be tense between them and Marina. I get the feeling that Tessa especially is not happy with her (I got that sense from the reality show). Definitely seems like IF they were to continue on that they would not be coached by her.

    It's too bad that V/M didn't see the Marina problem before it was too late.
     
  9. Golightly

    Golightly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2010
    Messages:
    1,232
    Yeah, it's too bad. But I'm glad they're at least speaking out. Other teams that were dumped by her stayed quiet.
     
  10. marbri

    marbri Hey, Kool-Aid!

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2001
    Messages:
    11,189
    It's a shame the last two years went the way they did. I think by the time they realized Marina wasn't interested in helping them repeat it was too late. This was my biggest worry for them, that they would realize the truth too late and have a nagging wonder of what could have been.

    But at least whatever they do going forward they will finally experiment free of Marina.
     
  11. princeton123

    princeton123 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2014
    Messages:
    312
    Marina's choreography is getting seriously stale and recycled anyway, you can seriously pick out all the Canton programs each year from a lineup. The best choreography she ever did was Umbrellas of Cherbourg and Mahler, IMO. I doubt she had much of a hand in Carmen.
     
  12. tourtiere

    tourtiere Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2014
    Messages:
    217
    :cheer: Golightly :cheer: finally last names on the thread. I was afraid someone else would make and leave them out as usual :rofl:

    I like this frank Tessa too. She hit Zoueva right on the head with this one. All of what we have been talking about these last 2 seasons about Zoueva has been correct all along. And people have been called delusional or crazy by a certain someone. I guess that makes us all collective shitheads :rofl:

    I do worry, though, that if D/W are retiring, and the chance that V/M continue that V/M will go back to Zoueva. I would rather them retire in that case.
     
  13. zilam98

    zilam98 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,147
    i'd hate for v/m to be put on as winning just because d/w arent there. we all know that shouldn't have been the case if v/m's programs had been scored fairly, but if v/m do decide to continue and win, to casual fans, any subsequent win will ring hollow just because their rivals/competitors arent around to give them a valid challenge. so i'd rather that v/m retire.
     
  14. Golightly

    Golightly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2010
    Messages:
    1,232
    I think if you think Virtue and Moir are the superior team, which they are, then the rest of your statement is vast contradiction. I don't care if DW retire or not, that won't define Virtue and Moir's accomplishments in any way should they decide to continue.
     
  15. girlscouse62

    girlscouse62 Active Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2012
    Messages:
    617
    This! I will settle for anything they care to give us. They know in their hearts (as do we) that they won the gold. Carol, Kurt already admitted this, although indirectly. I feel most sad for D/W because they must know it was going to be given to them regardless of their skate (IMHO)
     
  16. sequins

    sequins New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2004
    Messages:
    826
    Exactly. They can not decide their lives/career based on what someone else does or doesn't do. That's not what V/M have ever been about. They've never taken the easy way out and they've always done things on their terms. It's part of the reason why we love them so much, why they're admired and respect by coaches, fans and their fellow skater. I don't want them to change that about themselves regardless of who does or doesn't retire and regardless of what a judge chooses to do to them.
     
  17. forthewin

    forthewin Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2014
    Messages:
    133
    Exactly! The decision of not going to the world's says it all. They will do things on their own terms, and I for one support them no matter what.
     
  18. *Ice Princess*

    *Ice Princess* Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2013
    Messages:
    379
    geoskate and (deleted member) like this.
  19. *Ice Princess*

    *Ice Princess* Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2013
    Messages:
    379
  20. clarie

    clarie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,490
    Giving back...............I love it, and both Patrick and Tessa and Scott look like they're having a blast. I also noticed Brad Jacobs in the 1st pic. (Gold in curling) and I am just as big a fan of him and his team as of Patrick et al :)
     
  21. MissJD

    MissJD Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2013
    Messages:
    427
    Thanks for the pics and video guys! Well, it's official, Meryl and Charlie are both on DWTS (which I personally love unlike some here!). Though I'd much rather see Tessa and Scott dancing, I'm excited to watch. Is there a Canadian version?
     
  22. DFJ

    DFJ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2002
    Messages:
    4,836
    if there is, I hope they don't go anywhere near it.
     
  23. tourtiere

    tourtiere Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2014
    Messages:
    217
    Who cares? you can post your congrats in their thread ;)
     
  24. tourtiere

    tourtiere Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2014
    Messages:
    217
    Carmen was the best program they did this quad and Zoueva didn't have a hand with it. Until it was later in the season to alter the last step sequence and dance spin which didn't even impact the results. I don't think anyone will go to her any time soon because her reputation was built thru Igor. I think we will soon witness the fall of Zoueva.
     
  25. marbri

    marbri Hey, Kool-Aid!

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2001
    Messages:
    11,189
    I wouldn't be surprised if Marina ends up with a Russian team. She needs an established team to take over to continue any success. Wonder if B&S will stay with Zhulin? Or I&K with Morozov? I see a Russian team as her best chance to get on that podium again. She can drag another American team onto the podium with them.
     
  26. MarieM

    MarieM Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2008
    Messages:
    4,512
    Her reputation is as bad in Russia (and that dates back to mid eighties) as in the USA now. I doubt anyone will go to her anytime soon from russia.
    But I wouldn't be surprised if people GO to Igor instead. Just my opinion of course.
     
  27. tourtiere

    tourtiere Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2014
    Messages:
    217
    Bingo. I think if B/S make a change, it would be to Igor first. Everyone knows Zoueva is not a technician. I can see Zoueva taking a lot of American teams.
     
  28. marbri

    marbri Hey, Kool-Aid!

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2001
    Messages:
    11,189
    I don't know why her reputation is bad in the US? She got them the gold and seems to work closely with USFS.
     
  29. Emdee

    Emdee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    1,555
    Yup I agree.
    She will get some teams from the USA. I think Canadian teams will avoid her due to her partisan treatment of VM.

    The strange thing is all of their situation was suspected and almost foretold on this board. Gives me goosebumps in a bad way.
    As Scott said they found their situation reversed 2010 vs 2014.
     
  30. princeton123

    princeton123 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2014
    Messages:
    312
    Uhh, I doubt it...

    I do think her 'golden era' of coaching is over, however. V/M and D/W retiring doesn't leave her much to work with. She doesn't have a lot of depth in her teams.