Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by martyross, Mar 11, 2013.
come on - come on - come on! We LOVE you, living legends! <3 Good luck!
They ARE going to win. They have the skill, the material, and the strategy. It will all come together for them. This is the most exciting year in awhile!
You have said it kitty.
They will win......
practice starts now right? i hope someone uploads photos videos
I haven't written much in this thread after the 4CC, and I haven't commented on what happened there. Actually, on the day of FD I was already on my way to Stockholm, to 'Art on Ice'. I must admit that I read about the results late Monday evening. I was so deep into anticipations of seeing my beloved Stephane Lambiel live for the first time, and I was really hoping that all went well for Tessa and Scott, but at the same time wary of finding out the results before the show just in case if they hadn't won, not wanting to spoil my great mood. But in the end my impatience got the best of me, although I must say it was not an easy task to read through the pages of Tessa and Scott thread on my ordinary (very ancient style) mobile phone. Of course, I was disappointed and worried about them, but please don't blame me for not allowing that to spoil my great event.
After returning home I was living in the memories of 'Art on Ice', watching and rewatching videos of Stephane and other skaters, but that didn't keep me from reading FSU and Tessa and Scott thread several times a day, and taking part in all the discussions here in my head D). Yes, I am that weird type of a fan - I follow everything that others have written in the V/M thread, think about it a lot, then instead of replying to someone for real, I kind of do it in my head, which in the end almost makes me forget that in reality I haven't written anything here for a long time .
As for the Worlds - I really do hope that they will have the two best performances of the season there. It would be especially great if they could finally show their FD to it's full potential. But my realistically ideal result would be them getting all level 4s in the SD (which they are capable of), winning it assuredly, then getting level 4 on one of their FD step sequences (which unfortunately seems less realistic), winning it if not assuredly, then by a hair's breadth, and winning overall. But if it's not possible for them to get level 4 on their FD step sequences as they are, and if that level will become what separates them from victory, so be it! I didn't want (and still don't want) them to change and compromise even more in order to get those levels anyway. I still believe that with two great performances they can win even without that level 4, although barely.
well practices are very empty and many skaters aren't showing up. So far the dance practices have been uneventful. Pechelat/bourzat were the only ones in their group, the americans aren't there and with the way this is going, i don't know whether V/M will show up especially since their practice starts at 10:20 pm and they have an early one tomorrow...but we'll see.
I actually think it's completely realistic for V/M to earn level 4's on their step sequences in the FD. This was a hard program to learn and perfect, given that unlike some who reuse the same things season after season, they had all new elements and moves. It's all about peaking now, for this competition. One thing we should all know by now: If V/M have a full season, they'll be ready in the end for whatever the big event is. We've just got to have faith in them that they can do this.
Jackie Wong's predictions for top 10 for dance at Worlds: http://www.examiner.com/article/2013-world-championships-preview-dance-predictions-for-the-top-ten
Who is Jackie Wong and should we think this writer might have a bias toward one couple over another? I don't mean just for top spot but even some of the lower spots? I was quite surprised to see G/P of Canada slotting into 10th, for example.
Jackie wong is an american figure skating blogger who does alot of live commentary on twitter. He says he is unbiased however he's predicted D/W will win the world championships for the past 3 years. He tends to support the americans, obviously, and doesn't seem to like chan much...
BTW no tessa and scott at monday practice
I'll be at the afternoon practice tomorrow and, if Tessa and Scott are there, you can count on me for the report.
I love the title of the thread!
Holy moly I can't believe we're in the new thread already! I hope all you lucky guys there right now are enjoying it and we will be expecting your reports (looking at you pezazzz and Ioana and Judy and everybody else). Unlike previous competitions I'm feeling very calm and not really full of anticipation like I usually am. I just want two amazing performances and whatever happens I'm proud of them
good luck to them!
Also Ioana, go to the press conferences too please!
I'm super nervous. I worry that I won't be able to enjoy the competition live. I have so much work this week.
For all of the hand-wringing and worrying I've done basically since worlds last year, I'm in the same boat with you. I went to bed last night fretting, but when I woke up this morning, I felt entirely different. Call it a feeling. I'm now going to turn, spit, and curse like Toby Ziegler would instruct me to.
I've read a few of his articles and I tend to believe that he's pretty unbiased (he does work for an American publication so, understandably, he has to show the Americans some love). I remember he wrote an article defending V/M when there were allegations that all of their programs were romantically-themed and lacked range ( http://www.examiner.com/article/range-a-word-or-three-on-virtue-and-moir ). I don't recall him disliking Chan, though.
If you can go to the press conferences are you plz plz able to record and upload them?! Thank you
The Examiner is sort of a gray area. It's more of a pro-am for journalism. It's owned by a company, but the platform is pretty much blog-like. I don't think there's a lot of oversight. At the end of the day, he's pretty much just another fan with a blog, like Aunt Joyce.
Thanks for the new thread, martyross, and thanks for providing the title, The Accordion.
lauravvv, it is great to see you posting again, and I am glad you had a good time at Art On Ice. It must have been quite an experience to see your favourite skater live. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on worlds!
thanks for the update! I hope you enjoyed the practice. How did P&B look?
I like Jackie Wong and feel the same way elle123 does. I think he actually takes time to go through and understand the rules. I believe he is a former figure skater. In addition to the piece elle123 mentioned, he also thought that V&M were the more artistic team and defended their WC win last year, saying he felt they should have had a greater lead in the SD and less of a lead in the FD. I, too, am surprised to see G&P listed as the predicted 10th place finishers. There are so many strong teams in the field. Anyways, should be exciting!
IoanaC, I didn't know you were going! I hope you have a wonderful time this week and I look forward to your reports
Omigoodness I leave for London tomorrow night! (Have to teach for a full day first and then take the red eye! )
So here are my 2 schools of thought.
When I went to the Olympics there were hopes that Virtue and Moir might win - but also a lot of thoughts about why they might not.
For now I will focus the VM/DW aspect of that competition.
All year Bollywood seemed to be everyone's favourite OD and so many people complained about VM flamenco being not flamenco enough, not Canadian enough, too difficult for them to do well. Then V and M brought Farrucas up to the level it was aiming for all season and no one knew it could reach and the unthinkable happened - Farrucas beat Bollywood. All year people had been talking about DW having the better, higher scoring OD and then V and M reached their peak and they beat them. And watching again and again I am just amazed at what they were able to do with that exceptionally difficult dance with Tessa in so much pain.
Then the freeskate. DW did a tremendous job and scored so much higher than freeskates had been scoring all year. Even with the lead VM had with the CD and OD it seemed D and W may have earned such a high score as to overtake them. Then Mahler and VM scored even higher.
All this with a very physically challenged Tessa.
So 1 part of me thinks they can do it again. They can surprise those who have written them off by peaking at the exact right time and obtaining their levels while skating the amazing Carmen.
But there is another part or me that recognizes that the perception of the 2 teams in the judges' minds has changed immeasurably since 2010 and that the momentum is in DW favour with no losses to VM since Worlds last year and consistently higher PCS marks.There seems to be a new love for speed and power that trickles into all the PCS marks. And even though there are those of us who believe Carmen to be a superior program - that certainly does not seem to be the case with judges. In addition - there are many who may be influenced by the idea that DW should have won last year.
Bottom line? I didn't know going into the Olympics how it would end up. I did love the results! However, had it ended up differently the fact was I still got to be in the arena to see those 2 skates.
I am unbelievably honoured to have seen those 2 programs. And for me they were magic - as was Valse Triste at Skate Canada (pretty much didn't breathe) as was Umbrellas at Canadians (I cried) as was the first time I saw them skate in person -their Russian Folk dance at Nationals.
I would love for them to win for them. And because I would love to see their excellence recognized as the strongest in the World.
But when I am there I am just going to do my best to take in the magic - and enjoy what is very much more than likely the last time I will ever see them skate competitively.
I will bring Kleenex!
great post, The Accordion!
I am sure this will be an incredible experience for you and everyone else in the arena. It's cool that so many people from this thread are attending. I am so excited for you all!
The Accordion I hope you have a great time. That part in your post about it being the last time you will see them competitively and you just wanting to enjoy it, almost made me tear up. I think it started with this new montage Martiza just shared today and it made me nostalgic…next season is gonna be really hard.
Me too, because i saw them last time already "live"
But i didnt saw them "live" before 2010 WCh and the skated great, so fingers crossed for clean skating!
The Accordion!, i hope you is V-M lucky charm Enjoy every minute of WCh, not only V-M. Nothing could be compared with WCh - so many fans from different countries, so many skaters and coaches, and fan-zone - amazing! And look, like crowd is already amazing - SO for Patrick!
IoanaC, Yeeess! Cant wait your reports! Have a great time!
Guys, Ioana coudnt upload videos, because hournalists coudnt do this or she could never have accreditation again.
Blumberg at 4CC was with Zhukivsi, who alwayse support canadians and guys from GB - tow voice against one Blumberg
Its funny, but V-M with Marie only one time had bonus - at last year WCh.
PEZazzz, thank you for the practice report and since I will be popping in and out of the thread I want to thank all the rest of the FSUer's attending Worlds for their reports as well.
I also hope everyone who gets to see Tessa and Scott live really enjoys the experience and being at Worlds in general.
ITA with those who feel that V&M have everything they need to win the competition but we know that at times they have no control over what it is the judges decide to do. Components marks these days do seem synonymous with speed so what I really want is for Tessa and Scott to end their season by skating two amazing performances that they and their hometown audience can really be proud of no matter what happens.
gerbil, I'll do a *turn, spit, curse* right along with you.
Good Luck guys!
You said it so well. I too remember how things were after 4CC per Olys in 2010 and the tightness in the chest at that time....
I leave tonite and am going to enjoy to the fullest. Hope they have the competition they want and are on top of the world like they should be.
If I can't record the press conf I'll do my best to tell you everything that has been discussed.
I believe in them and they certainly can win this. I want to.enjoy every second, despite the nerves (hope I'll be able to )
@ BourneKraatzfan P/B looked good. They some trouble with the twizzles during their run-through ( bourzat fell), that seemed to take a little steam out from them. But they looked strong and had private ice ! W/P also looked good.
Thank you for reports!
Hope you have fun.
Just like Dorothy and her magic red shoes saying "there's no place like home" I too am hoping that our V/M stay in their magic bubble while they are "at home". I'm getting so excited just to read the reports here at FSU and to watch it all live at home. Yeppers, there IS no place like home.
Tessa & Scott -- regardless of what the judges do or say or give, you'll always be champions to me. You're the reigning Olympic Champions! a golden couple.
On my way to practise rink to watch pairs and dance today. I'll try to post when we get back to the hotel.
Godd luck and have fun! We will wait your reports.
You will never be "former Olympic Champion". And who know, could other team become OGM?
Not weird! I do that too - maybe not in this thread. But I do that in threads where I don't feel like getting involved in uber wars and in the political threads.
V&M are what I call "clutch" skaters. They manage to get it done when it counts. I feel positive about their chances.
Yes, I agree they will probably be behind R&T. I didn't agree with a lot of things in that list... it was like 2 NA teams, then all the Euros in random order, then all the NA teams to round out the top 10. I expect the results to be more evenly distributed than that. And I think I&K have an upward momentum, so I don't see them dropping behind C&L, much as I prefer C&L's FD.
Loved your post, especially this. Farracus is so similar to Carmen, not just in tone, but because it's one of the most difficult dances they've ever done and it absolutely required speed and timing to work, and they were able to nail it at the right moment.
It will be interesting to compare their performance of Carmen in London to Mahler in Vancouver. I was not privileged to see Mahler live, but even watching on TV you could sense the support of the crowd. That performance was just the easiest I have ever seen in skating. It felt like nothing was work, and they just flowed right through it without a bit of effort, like it was one sustained moment from the first time they pushed off their blades everything fell into place. You could hear the crowd erupting at every element but yet at the same time Tessa and Scott were having a very intimate moment. Carmen is a different dance, one which projects outward and should feed off the crowd. I'm really excited to see it and jealous of everyone who will be there live!
New dress for Tessa in SD. White underskirt looks layered and might bounce nicely in the YP.
And whatever happens this week just at their lines and how close they skate together. True ice dancers in every sense of the word.
Thank you! Happy to see them again
Read Tessa had mistake on twizzels and they had problems with lift exit. Maybe because of new dress?
It's a nice looking dress but I really have loved the flow of the other. Perhaps bouncy will work better for the YP portion of the dance. Thanks for the link to that photo -- and to whomever posted it.
Better in practice
Btw..Skate Canada twitter page put up the photo. One also for G&P and W&P. So great to see W&P back on the ice!!
I'm so nervous with anticipation, I want them so badly to have perfect skates, regardless of the result. I'm not sure that I'm even going to be able to have the courage to watch it live, I might have to wait to hear the results first . . .
Yeah the exit lift was a bit of fluke...they themselves found it a bit funny I think tessa had her foot to high up as she landed and thought she might hit scott with her foot but either way she tilted a little backwards and then regained her balance. As for twizzles, they were a little hesitant not too much flow but I don't recall seeing a mistake... They definitley got the most crowd support. It's surprising to see so many people in the stands for practice, the lower bowl looks 70% full. But good practice, they did the entire SD. Here they are at the media circle:
Frankly, I'm terribly disappointed that she changed that "pavonine", gorgeous dress. I hope the new one looks better live than on picture and doesn't affect the fluidity, flow and lightness of movement.
By the way hello VM fans
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