Virtue and Moir 25: Road to home

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  1. jl22aries

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    I am such a dink. When I watch VM I definitely see them both as a whole, though usually focus more on Tessa. Just now I watched the link to the 4cc gala (thanks for the Eurosport version btw!) and really glued my eyes to Scott and he is AMAZING. What have I been doing with my eyes? Or maybe it's one of those things where the more you look at something, the more you see (like all art, oh the proverbial peeling of the onion). He is strength, precision, grace, intensity, sex, gentleness, rolled into one effing pillar of a man. It's like I knew all this already, but tonight I reached yet another level. I'm so happy.
     
  2. vmfan82

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    Thank you for your words :)
     
  3. pani

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  4. pani

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    Bournekraatzfan, i know, you are very sweet and kind person. :) Just want to ask you, if you like both teams, why you never see V-M have something better, then D-W? I mean FD choreo.
    Like i said before, i want to say thanks to PJ, because she is one, who support Tessa and Scott and pay attention to this.
    I knew people will start to criticize her for this and will not pay attention she said D-W are best ever ice dancers (wich, like i think, overrating). But why nobody start to criticize Icenetwork and ice-dance. com for posting very rude comments about V-M, Funny Face?
    And if you will watch Icenetwork today thay found an "expert" who said D-W FD choreo is masterpiece. And he talked about D-W and Bobrova-Soloviev FDs (wich i love), but why not to ask them - why you didnt talk about P-B FD? W-P? I-K?
     
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  5. clarie

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    Sequins and The Accordian Yes, ITA with both posts. Still looking forward to seeing them at Worlds and Can Nats next year. Sad that they will be gone after that. I hope they get to do lots of shows after they retire from competitive skating. I love their "show/gala" performances as well.
     
  6. bmcg

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    pani, do you have a link to what pj wrote? I've tried looking all over her website and can't find it.
     
  7. pani

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    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/figureskat...nts-show-plenty-of-contenders-for-worlds.html

     
  8. bmcg

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    Thanks :)
     
  9. DORISPULASKI

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    Re the icenetwork article, the introduction said that the DWTS dance person that commented will have a second article on two other dance teams. I expect to see that they are V&M and I&K...I think what is being done is the 1st & 2nd place teams at 4CC's and the first & second place teams at Euros.

    pani, I am surprised at you embracing PJ's metaphor for the teams; all well and good to prefer V&M's choreo, but why on earth compare it to a smelly & cheesy cheese (old cheddar)? Surely she could have done something better with a wine comparison?
     
  10. Zemgirl

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    I see no problem with the idea of cheese as a metaphor, but I would have picked different cheeses. An even better comparison would be chocolate. V/M can be a rich 85% dark chocolate and D/W can be, I don't know, quality milk chocolate with caramel or something. Does that fit better?

    I am now off to have some dessert. ;)
     
  11. pani

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    Maybe she didnt drink? Will you feel better if she will said V-M choreo is like good old vine and D-W like coca-cola? :lol: Joke.
    I think this is not question of preference, but question of reality.
    Doris, sorry, but after you did at Golden Skate form and about your and your frinds about Tessas weight, porno, small Scott, Tessa is a puppy and dont think you are the person, who could tell something to PJ in this case. ;)
     
  12. bmcg

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    I think PJ was probably going for the mature, full flavoured body with many layers old cheddar aged to perfection versus a mass-produced product made of one or more types of cheeses that have been heated and mixed with emulsifiers, colorings, flavorings, etc., primarily to retard spoilage and enhance spreadability at reduced cost. ;)
     
  13. pani

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    :lol:
    But this is question of quality, when both milk chocolate and dark chocolate could be high quality :)
    For me its just PJ is brave to tell something like this, when all others in Canada put D-W higher then V-M since OG.
     
  14. pani

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    I think so :)
     
  15. Zemgirl

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    Well yes, but most people have firm opinions about whether dark chocolate is superior to milk chocolate or the other way around. If PJ were using my analogy, then she'd probably make V/M artisanal bean-to-bar chocolate, while D/W would be a Mars bar.

    I don't think it's brave for a Canadian journalist to say that Canadian skaters are better. Now, if PJ were to, say, sing the praises of a Russian team*, then I would be surprised.

    * ETA: suggesting that they are superior to a Canadian team, that is.
     
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  16. pani

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    They prised Boborova-Soloviev all season long ;)
    Didnt they prise Volosozhar-Trankova and Savchenko-Szolkovi, Carolina Kostner, Mao Asada ect?
    I cant remeber canadian journalists prise V-M over D-W. And PJ didnt made this. She just tell truth.
     
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    I love the cheese metaphor and I love cheese.... A high quality old cheddar like our Balderson's 12 year old is sharp yet mellow. Of course i dont think slices yummy at all with their additives and cheese food connotations. So her metaphor to me is true -- one is fine and the other run of the mill and low brow.

    I guess the wine would work but few casual readers would know the difference between better years and better chateaux!
     
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    Well, then perhaps the cheese metaphor works better in Canada, than in the US, where when I was a girl, "Your mom eats government cheese," was a deadly insult, and refered to the bulk Kraft cheese included in welfare packages, and where still Kraft slices are not a symbol for something that is popular, but perhaps not as sophisticated as it might be, but for something that is deadly lowest trailer trash class...and where comparing any performance, to any cheese, fine cheddar or not, is an insult.

    I would be fine with comparing V&M's Carmen to fine wine or fine chocolate, but I would never compare their Carmen to any kind of cheese whatsoever. It's not a cheesy program.

    So that's why I wondered why V&M fans were happy to go with it, since to me the comparison insults both teams' programs.
     
  21. rainbowkisses

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    ikr? i thought this documentary was about canadian skaters
     
  22. Emdee

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    Actually Doris, no idea about welfare packages. But yes here too cheese slices are considered revolting....
     
  23. SidelineSkater

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    Agreed Doris! Like many things on message boards, it often gets lost in translation. Whether it's a cultural, language, or even regional difference, it's a great learning opportunity to be exposed to something new. Just because one person doesn't like it, doesn't make it bad. Example, the North American modernization of ice dance, versus the classic, old school European style. And within North America, we have many different 'flavors' and styles...enough to suit and satisfy most any palate.
     
  24. pani

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    Maybe because you were happy with all rude were posted about V-M at Icenetwork?
    And because you made Golden skate crazy D-W ubers home? And this is sad, because before it was very interesting place to talk about FS.
     
  25. bmcg

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    :rolleyes:
     
  26. bmcg

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    They probably went to Canton.
     
  27. ofdarkness

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    An article said that the documentary was about how Tessa and Scott deal with the pressure of training with their rivals. So it makes sense that they'd be in it.
     
  28. Proustable

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    Fwiw, she said that Berezhanaya/Sikharulidze were a better pair than Sale/Pelletier.
     
  29. pani

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    For D-W fans.
    I said this before, but maybe you didnt read my message. i DIDNT TELL D-W didnt have standing ovations and only get few flowers at 4CC. I tell - thanks fro audience, who gave SO to V-M in this situation. Ofcause D-W get SO and a lot off presents from there fans in Japan :)
    Plus i didnt see why SO show FD have good choreo. They doint all very fast, this is impressive, but chore////
     
  30. Zemgirl

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