Virtue and Moir 25: Road to home

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  1. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    So the question is, what ballets have Katia/G&G skated to? Scheherazade, Giselle, what else? That should give us a clue for next year. :p
     
  2. pani

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    Don Quixote ;)
    But honestly, i am sure D-W will skate "Swan Lake" so if T-S will stay with Marina, i dont think they will skate ballet.
     
  3. DORISPULASKI

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    Karia's programs with Sergei
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Grinkov#Programs


    Katia's programs by herself:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekaterina_Gordeeva#Programs

    Marina has definitely shown a preference for reusing music of theirs with her teams.

    As to Katia being in Giselle's iconic blue outfit, and Meryl wearing Giselle blue, yeah, that's what Giselle wears; blue.
    Bolshoi
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8N1We4pamk
    ABT
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQX1a87YV78&feature=player_embedded#t=236s

    The only variations seem to be in aprons and hair doodads.

    That they are both in blue has no more meaning than that anybody portraying Santa Claus is going to be wearing red.

    But I have wondered why Marina didn't give Giselle to Tessa? Perhaps she wants to save a ballet for Sochi? Also It has always seemed to me that Tessa & Scott should have a competitive ballet program some time!
     
  4. flowerpower

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    This is what I have thought, too. I've expected she might be saving a ballet for V/M in Sochi. That would be great and so appropriate, IMO.
     
  5. rainbowkisses

    rainbowkisses Banned Member

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    me too. tessa would've been better at playing giselle given her ballet background. but yeah perhaps she is saving a ballet program for sochi. i just hope it isnt scheherazade or black swan/swan lake
    perhaps marina is gonna give them Tchaikovsky's R+J?

    idts given that their giselle looks contrived as hell. they are going to go with something they're more comfortable with (im still convinced they are gonna skate to les miz. :lol:)
     
  6. pani

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    Becuase Tessa is nobody to Marina, and Meryl is her new daughter? Maybe before OG things will change and Maia will have G-G Moonlight Sonata in FD :lol:

    From last season i have impression, Marina all her passion give to Meryl. Marina were small, not such a famouse dancer, like Moiseeva, Pahomova, Linitchuck and never get medals because of her lines and height.
    Now she want to prove - judges were wrong. Of couse Marina had better lines, because in her time nobody hold hands and arms, like Meryl, but who could tell 10 years ago Meryl will be world champion? Only Marina knew this and she want to show- girls, like this, could be iconic in ice dance.
    Doris, i dont want to go to Golden Skate to see what you post there - i am afraid :lol:
    You cant not to see the same start position Meryl and Katia have, the same jumps ect ;)

    Tessa could be tottlay different Guisell. It could be drama, madness, love. Like Yu-Na SP was. But because of iconic ballet dancer we will never see this For me its sad :(
     
  7. flowerpower

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    Blast from the past...here is Golden Skate's 2007 interview with Tessa and Scott.
    http://www.goldenskate.com/2007/09/interview-with-tessa-virtue-and-scott-moir/

    ..and I wonder if Scott will get his country music exhibition. ;)

     
  8. flowerpower

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    Whoa, pani. Doris made a very positive and constructive post. Thank you, Doris.
     
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  9. pani

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    Even Nutcracker was given to D-W :D
    Now i am sure T-S will not skate new exibition at WCh. Maybe at CSOI
     
  10. rainbowkisses

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    :rofl: naaaaaah she doesnt have the same grace as gordeeva

    :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    everyone knows that tessa and scott are marina's darlings and that d/w were igor's
    i remember back in 2010 people were calling them the G+G of ice dance (which i hate it when people do :()
    plus its normal for marina to reuse music

    anyways i just found out that ekaterina also skated to UoC
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-mLfXXRKdY

    music so far that G+G/Katia has skated to that marina has reused:
    V/M:
    umbrellas of cherbourg
    farrucas
    carmen
    mahler

    D/W:
    giselle
    die fledermaus


    anyone want to add?
     
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  11. pani

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    rainbowkisses , they were before 2010 OG. She didnt want to talk about other her skaters at all.
    But things was change since last season. She all time talked about her masterpiece in D-W programs :D
     
  12. rainbowkisses

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    tessa and scott also danced to the nutcracker (spanish dance)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND9giupMwIE
     
  13. flowerpower

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    When did they first skate Hallelujah? I think it was at CSOI last year. My guess is they'll try for a new exhibition at home in London, but it'll probably depend on whether there is time to work on one or not.

    If I were Marina, I would give each team a variety of choreographic styles to push them and allow them to develop in different areas, in the years leading up to the Olympics. But with Tessa's ballet background, I'd give V/M a ballet FD in the Olympic year. (Just as I'd expect Marina to choose an Olympic program for D/W that would play to a strength.)
     
  14. pani

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    D-W play with to strength this season ;)
    Tessa and Scott did new ex at last season WCh - disco number.
     
  15. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    According to the My Sergei book, Tatiana Tarasova choreographed this West Side Story program for them in the summer of 1991 (it's one of my all-time favorite G&G programs). AFAIK, Zoueva didn't work with them in their early pro years (1991-92). ETA: G&G's "Pas de Deux" from The Nutcracker Suite was also during this period.
     
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    With all the recent debate saying that speed is much more important than lines and position, why on earth would V/M want to do a ballet for the Olympics?
     
  17. rainbowkisses

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    well time to scratch that one out :lol:
     
  18. pani

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    Why Davis wish to do ballet at all? :lol:
     
  19. flowerpower

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    Well, that's a good question and a good point. I'm delighted that V/M took the choreographic risks that they did this season, because I feel their Carmen is a program that will be remembered in ice dance history - a legacy program. What will they want to do in the Sochi Olympic year, which will be their last competitive season? Hopefully another legacy program. Sure they'd like to win, and I think there's still more than one type of program that can be successful (though your point about what seems to be valued today in ice dance is very well-taken). Putting a wonderful ballet program on the ice, possibly with Jennifer Swan's help, would be a statement, and a great way to cap off a career, IMO.
     
  20. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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  21. rainbowkisses

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    yeah i dont think ill put the nutcracker because zoueva didnt choreograph their v/m's ex (IIRC it was suzanne right?)
     
  22. flowerpower

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    Haha. Yes Larry did! They said "our" ballet teacher and I got the impression that it might be an instructor they both took lessons with in Canton (maybe the Ukrainian teacher Scott talked about in the Russian fan vid?) It was a great interview - I love how Tessa answers questions in such careful, precise detail and Scott is so direct and straightforward in a good-natured way.
     
  23. rainbowkisses

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    Thanks! All look great!

    So it was 3 years since Tessa and Scott become OG gold medalists.
    I re-watched this home videos of T-S perfomance in Vancouver. What a audience reaction. My favorite moment - applauds durin CD :D
    I didnt watched Mahler long time, but when i re-watche it again i start crying and thinking- could be something more beautifull then this? And at one video i notice, how TAT stand up after Mahler FD :)
    Thanks to Tessa and Scott for givining all this beautie to us

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy3sPuAgqPw&list=UU-Q1ZhVT2Nh9ybJq5jtNoQg&index=30
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buZninvTJKE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU_i4FCH8C4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJt3jlI3Oq4
     
  25. rainbowkisses

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    imo they had the best od that season (well at least out of the top three teams since their flamenco is the least culturally appropriative:))

    im so glad they decided to go with flamenco and not aboriginal dance like they said in their book
     
  26. The Accordion

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    It is so crazy to believe it has been 3 years! It seems closer and yet further away at the same time. I am so grateful I was able to attend both the Olympic OD and Freedance- and spending the extra money to upgrade to such amazing seats for the free is one of the best things I ever did. I will never forget seeing Olympic Mahler up close. Worth every single penny.
     
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  28. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Thanks for those videos, pani! So beautiful.

    Since we're talking about the Olympics... they didn't do an encore in the gala, right? I have never seen one, but I can't understand how that could be...
     
  29. flowerpower

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    ^
    I think you're right...at least I don't remember seeing one either. Maybe none of the winners did?
     
  30. ofdarkness

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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vvvty-7zV9s

    A throwback, but I just love this interview so much! So in depth and personal. It almost felt like I was watching one of their counselling sessions. I hope they do something similar again.