Virtue and Moir #22 - To Russia with love

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by martyross, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. Golightly

    Golightly Well-Known Member

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    I was dreading this, but I completely understand them. God, I hate levels so much. Hopefully they didn't compromise the artistry in those step sequences. They were beautiful.
  2. clarie

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    Well, I'm certain they reworked keeping in mind the artistry. I'm so looking forward to seeing both these programs in their new tweaked form.
  3. pani

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    But who re-worked programs with them?
    Will CBC today show 2 hours program about GPF with V-M and M-T-M interviews?
  4. clarie

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  5. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    I'm not so worried about the changes because Tessa specifically said that their goal is not to lose any of the creative elements of the steps. I mean this whole dance wasn't choreographed by accident. Every move has a basis in dance and the story. I see no reason for that to change now.

    With that said, if they lose GPF, then all bets are off. :lol:
    PeterG and (deleted member) like this.
  6. pani

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    :rofl: So if the lose we will see the original "Carmen" - yess! Now i will support D-W in GPF :lol:
  7. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Hah! Well that would be interesting. :rofl: They should skate the original choreo in an exhibition or something.
  8. iNap

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    O what is new you suppoert D-W all the time :rofl: few days before you said how greate they are :lol: So we see more of this talk :D Maybe it is time to show V-M some love no????
  9. pani

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    :rolleyes: When?
  10. Golightly

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    I sincerely hope you don't approach real life like this, Pani. I say that with kindness. And hope. Mostly hope.

    I hope you're right, Cherub.
  11. iNap

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  12. pani

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    Sorry? :eek: OK, maybe i did smething wrong so need to be away from this thread :rolleyes:
  13. sap5

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    What? 15 min have gone by and nobody has begged pani to stay on the thread?? What is going on here?!
  14. iNap

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    how many post you are going to delete this time before going?:rofl: bye bye until tomorrow :D
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    apparently ,pani, CBC will have 2 hour preview of GPF and this will include both interviews
  16. pani

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  17. Emdee

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    Sap - I will ask Pani to stay and I would have asked her 5 minutes later if I wasnt out shopping!

    Golightly I am rapping your knuckles - even if you sincerely hoped it was more a subject of a PM. Pani's humour is a little different and should be taken as such.

    iNap get lost!

    Now back to their dancing....
  18. clarie

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    :lol:
  19. Golightly

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    First, Pani is a great fan and she does contribute to the discussion a lot.

    That said, there are things she says that are plain mean and rude, but she gets a pass because her humor is different? I'm sorry, but that sarcasm and snarkiness we so much criticize in other parts of this very same board IS part of Pani's different humor and I don't think I'm out of line if I call her out on it. Heck, Pani is bigger than this whole thread, a fact I'm sure she is very pleased about.

    I'm all for discussing the skating, more than happy to do so, but I feel I needed to say that. Again, Pani, you are a great fan, with lots to offer to the discussion, I respect you for it. But when you get rude, it's very annoying. Oh, and no, I'm not a DW fan. At all.
  20. pani

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    Sorry, i really cant get what is wrong? So if i said something wrong - excuse me.
    But in next time please, stop reading your lections to me. I dont think we are at this forum to discuss each others personality, but figure skating, no?
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  21. Golightly

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    Indeed. We are here to discuss figure skating.
  22. ddtpdx

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    Some quick hits from cbc gpf preview about T&S.

    -Scott has a bit of a moustache (movember moustache?), although I'm not sure he's really capable of growing one, LOL.
    -Tracey Wilson commented that they may need to 'simplify' the body movements which can potentially impede their ability to hit those edges cleanly in the SS's. This is why I'm finding that the COP approach to assigning levels is too restrictive and short-sighted. Difficulty is not just about the blade work but how the body movements make the blade work more difficult (this includes having good body lines)!
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  23. Proustable

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    It'll be interesting to see how it works. The final footwork sequence in Carmen is so breathtaking to behold that I hope they've kept the stop-start madness intensity of it all
  24. pani

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    Thank you a lot! :)
    O no. OK, they could to made this FD easy and re-move all body moves, but could they compete in this case with other teams? Why the medals is so important for them?
    now when they will have the same FD it will be underdtanding D-W will win. I know, judges didnt reward T-S for there difficulty, but all people, who understad something in ice dance and modern dance respect this.
  25. pani

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    They did it very easy at exibitions, so why they listening Tracy and others? They need more time and maybe they could win with Mahler, but its was so good for us they tryt something so interesting and difficult and i dont want to see they will made this FD more simple and will remove interesting moves, because Tracy think they need to do :(
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  26. ddtpdx

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    Pani, I think we should trust T&S's judgement and wait and see rather than panicking.
  27. pani

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    I agree -will see. But all saw what happened with Funny Face last season. All asked them to put more "crazy Audrey", but "specialists" said they to put more skating arround.
    OK - will see.
  28. IoanaC

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    I agree with this. It can be very frustrating. That's why we're seeing basically the same step sequence repeated ad infinitum by all the teams.
    But I trust that T&S are aware what special material they have on their hands and will work to find a good balance.

    Did they say anything else in the interview?
  29. Golightly

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    Still, the diagonal step sequence in Funny Face was pretty special, so I hope the SS in Carmen don't lose their essence much. I trust them :)
  30. pani

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    Only i think there SS in SD at CoR was made with vey deep edges, with fixing every step? But they got level 3 for it. So they will change it third time. And its hard to think they will get leves 4 for SS in FD after they made changes.
    But will see. I hope they could return to the first version after GPF.
  31. ddtpdx

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    Interview by Brenda with T&S in Canton on Thursday:
    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/fencing/video/#id=2311870957
    brief summary...
    -leaving for Sochi today (Sat)
    -Why Carmen program challenged them more than any previous program: approach is more intellectual with every body movement having a meaning.
    -Why take risk to add difficulty, while appreciated by fans, but not always by scoring system: one of reason stayed in after olympics to push the sport and push themselves
    -GPF on olympic ice, what feeling want to have: want to leaving feeling good that skated well, but don't want to hold too much weight (based on their previous experience at the Vancouver venue); want to envision the rink and lay of the land, imagine stands full and flags waving
    -2-pair race in Sochi: focus to deliver 2 strong performances, not be too worried about what the judges will reward, and just deliver what they are able to skate everyday in Canton.
    -this year: heading into this one, they feel more ready and better to execute (having been able to compete in previous events)
    -preparation for worlds at home: essentially they will treat it the same as another world championship but be prepared for the extra pressure, support and enthusiasm; need to stay in zone...
  32. IoanaC

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    Thank you for posting the interview. Is it me or do they look very serious? Like, "in the bubble"/before competition-serious?:) They seem very focused and calm.

    Also, they're leaving really early for Sochi.
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  34. Cherub721

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    Scott looks pretty hot with his almost-mustache.
  35. aka_gerbil

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    I'm going to wade off into the shallow end, but before this season, never in a million years did I ever think I'd find Scott hot. Now? Hot. Very hot.
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  36. zilam98

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    i think scott should keep that mustache for the rest of the season. just add a more debonaire hairstyle for the SD to make it appropriate for that dance. and that mustache will certainly add more heat to carmen :hat1:
  37. aka_gerbil

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    I could get behind that! :D
  38. Carmen Ovsiannikov

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    Golightly, I was also concerned that in trying to reach the levels they need, V&M would end up watering down Carmen thus turning it into yet another connect the elements styled program. After reading the last article posted it made me feel better. I'm glad that the changes made were made with keeping the artistry of the FD intact in mind. I'm just hoping the judges react positively to those changes. Icedancing needs to go back to FD's like Carmen IMO. FD's that are the perfect blend of technical prowess, skating skills and artistry/creativity that go far beyond just being a competitive piece.
  39. pani

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    Thank you so much :) Its great they will go to Sochi so early and if they really focucing on there skating, but not on results;)
    Be sure to see at least one Canada flag :D
  40. kapriza

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    about levels... sometimes I wish there was a choreo step sequence like in men competition. no levels, just GOE.
    I know it's an ice dance and it's all about technique, skating skills, edges but still: it's a DANCE and most of step sequences these days are just bland and doesn't fit the music at all.