very old question - Bolero

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  1. dariaparadise

    dariaparadise New Member

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    Between Torvill and Dean's legendary "Bolero" in 1984 and Michelle Kwan's "Bolero" at 2005 Worlds, were there any major skater(s) who skated to this music?

    I remember I was surprised to see someone else finally having a gut to skate to this music back then, and it was another legendary skater Michelle.

    But it is not that I was following amateur figureskating during the 20year period, and I now wonder if my perception then was actually correct or not.

    After Michelle, I know other skaters did Bolero, Evan, Miki, and I am sure there are many others.

    Thank you for your help on this topic!
  2. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

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    Khokhlova and Novitski in I think 2006 for the FD
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  4. Veronika

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    Didn't Stephen Cousins do a version too?
  5. pollyanna

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  6. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    Who could ever forget that?

    Between the skintight red velvet :swoon:, the slightly out-of-place but always delightful ass circle :swoon:, and the flawlessly brilliant jumps...

    (And also it was the first Year of the Mullet!)
  7. pollyanna

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    Didn't Fumie Suguri and Evan Lysacek also have Bolero programs? (Although both were after Michelle's 2005 program)

    The first Bolero program that popped into my head was actually a pro routine, but for the life of me I couldn't remember who the pros were. I looked it up, and it was Leonova and Khvalko at the 2000 World Pros. Haven't seen it in a while, but I remember loving it.
  8. wustfan

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    I think Navka and Kostomarov skated to Bolero ca 1999
  9. SamuraiK

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    I can only remember

    Navka Kostomarov 1999 (waaay before Michelle and in Ice Dancing!)
    Khokhlova Novitski 2006
    Chait Sakhnovski 2006
    Della Monica Kocon 2009
    Evan Lysacek 2009
  10. dariaparadise

    dariaparadise New Member

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    Thank you so much for your prompt answers, so ok, there were plenty of other skaters who had guts to skate !! After Michelle, I knew there were many, but I was not sure of pre-2005! Interesting for Navka and Kostomarov.

    and when I was younger, I was not in a favor of Plushenko and I just didn't watch him all together... (now I found a way to appreciate him :p)
  11. pollyanna

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  12. pat c

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    Olga Markova in 1997

    Alexei Urmanov in 1992
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    casken Well-Known Member

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    I love that FD. Easily my favorite program from them.

    Here's Navka & Kostomarov from 1999, choreographed by Linichuk, I think?
  14. leafygreens

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    Sarah Meier skated to a different version of Bolero in 2006.
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    That's the one I was going to add. Very beautiful program to Vanessa Mae's version of bolero !
  16. smarts1

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    Fumie Suguri- 06-07 season for the SP. I really liked the program.
  17. Aussie Willy

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    Bolero is a type of dance, not a variation on a particular piece of music.
  18. pinky166

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    Didn't Evan Lysacek skate an exhibition to Bolero a few years ago? And Miki Ando too.
  19. SkateFan66

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    Bolero was Lysacek's short program during the 2008-2009 competitive season.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEGLe3AsOMQ
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    In 2000-2001, Plushy skated Bolero as SP :rollin:
  21. MR-FAN

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    The brilliant, irreplaceable, legendary John Curry skated the end of his 1974 LP to Bolero
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  23. aftershocks

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    Interesting, thanks for posting the links. Didn't recall that so many skaters performed to Bolero. From what I've seen, my faves would be: Torvill and Dean; Scott Williams :swoon:; Urmanov (he was easily a better all-around skater than Plushy and Yags, IMHO -- too bad Urmanov was blamed for winning gold at '94 Olympics, and his career seemed to suffer); and Sasha Abt :) (wow, that costume -- pre Johnny Weir)!
  24. misskarne

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    How can I call myself a Sasha fan and forget this? :slinkaway


    I LOVE that costume though. One of my favourites. But can anyone explain the dragon to me? Or is it kinda like how Ilia wore giraffe print with RiB (you know, don't ask)?
  25. shah

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    Yes, it was Latino Bolero, but Ravel's piece was the basis.
    Elena Liashenko used the same version of Bolero one or two seasons before K/N...
  26. paskatefan

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    Todd E. skated to Bolero in SOI for the 20th Anniversary show tour (as a tribute to T&D).

    Chait & Sakhnosky (sp.?) in 2006 Olympics. Dick Button had a lot to say about their program (and costume comments), IIRC.
  27. Ozzisk8tr

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    Have you guys heard this version? Even though many think it's a little taboo for any skater to skate to Bolero I so want to see the likes of Kiira or Alissa skate to this version.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQOsUMbU9n4
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    Loved this version! Thanks for sharing it.
    Ozzisk8tr and (deleted member) like this.
  29. madm

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    You can search on www.skatemusiclist.com for a listing of who skated competitive programs to Bolero. Here are some of the entries I found:

    [SIZE=-1]Bolero (Ravel) -[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]J[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]ayne Torvill & Christopher Dean (Great Britain)[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]1984 Olympics [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Free Dance[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]J[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]ayne Torvill & Christopher Dean (Great Britain)[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]1984 World Championships [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Free Dance[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Alexei Urmanov (Russia)[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]1992 World Championships[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Scott Williams (USA)[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]1993 Miko Masters [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Long[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Jayne Torvill & Christopher Dean (Great Britain)[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]1994 Artistry of Torvill and Dean [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Exhibition[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Olga Markova (Russia)[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]1997 Skate Canada [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Short[/SIZE]

    There are more listings under the pro comps heading as well. Unfortunately it looks like this website does not contain listings after 2008.
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  31. os168

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    Torvill and Dean is synonymous with Bolero - growing up in Britain, it would almost be blasphemous to consider anyone else able to bring it justice.

    However I do hope one day someone would. It is a great piece of music for soloist/singles skater as well. Bolero is a piece of music that has a degree of harmonious machismo but not overwhelming so. It is about building tensions that are deliberately paced therefore excellent for artistic interpretations.

    For some reason I thought it would be an excellent piece of music for Hanyu Yuzuru for a long program.

    His biggest weakness has always been his agility (due to age therefore his built), but he has an effortless musicality and interpretation to his movements, therefore the slow paced tempo in the beginning would be ideal for him where he get to display his nuanced flair, which are balances of lyrical, grace and handsome qualities without tiring himself out. As he approaches the heightened rhythmic chords, he can be quite compelling to watch, as he have demonstrated a little bit last season.

    Belonging to the next generation of skaters, with a big gap of 25+ years, maybe it is time judges should able to see his performance a fresher approach (Being Asian helps?), rather than bogged down by the strong impression of the Torvill and Dean legendary version.
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  32. taf2002

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    My favorite performance to this music is the COI cast's finale to it. I'm thinking it was the summer of 2004, the year they had a 2nd tour with a reduced amount of skaters. The lights were lowered & the cast were all in shades of blue. It had almost a dream-like quality to it. It was just beautiful.
  33. paskatefan

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    Oh, thanks for reminding me of this! Definitely my favorite COI finale. I think it was during the 2000 Summer tour (back in the days when one of tour stops was shown on one of the cable channels). There was a neat segment in which they showed the rehearsals for "Bolero" and the finished product. I wish someone would/could put that segment up on Youtube.
  34. taf2002

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    Definitely not 2000, I didn't go to COI that year. I have the cast photo somewhere around here & they were all in their blue costumes.
  35. skatesindreams

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    As do I!

    It was a three hour telecast.
    I was out-of town and couldn't record it.

    ETA: It was 2000 COI; shown on TNT in the US.
    I just checked,
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  36. taf2002

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    Well then, I did go to COI that year because I definitely saw it in person. And that means it was done by a full cast. The small cast that did a 2nd tour was in 2004....I looked it up. That's the one that headlined Michelle, Dorothy, & Nancy.
  37. paskatefan

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    So there are two separate performances of Bolero as a COI finale. :) Well, would someone please post it on Youtube? For this I'd (and some others) be eternally grateful. :D
  38. taf2002

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    paskatefan, my memory is so bad. I did see Bolero apparently in 2000 & I did attend the 2004 COI but I can't be sure they also did Bolero. Now that I think of it, in 2004 with the smaller cast they did something that featured everyone more individually in the group skate. By the way, that smaller tour was never televised.
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