US Worlds and 4 Continents Teams named

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  1. semogal

    semogal Well-Known Member

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    http://www.usfsa.org/Story.asp?id=49829&type=media

    2014 U.S. World Ladies Figure Skating Team
    Polina Edmunds
    Gracie Gold
    Ashley Wagner
    Alternate No. 1 - Mirai Nagasu
    Alternate No. 2 - Samantha Cesario
    Alternate No. 3 - Courtney Hicks

    2014 U.S. World Men’s Figure Skating Team
    Max Aaron
    Jeremy Abbott
    Alternate No. 1 - Jason Brown
    Alternate No. 2 - Joshua Farris
    Alternate No. 3 - Richard Dornbush

    2014 U.S. World Pairs Figure Skating Team
    Marissa Castelli and Simon Shnapir
    Caydee Denney and John Coughlin�
    Alternate No. 1 - Felicia Zhang and Nathan Bartholomay
    Alternate No. 2 - Alexa Scimeca and Chris Knierim
    Alternate No. 3 - Haven Denney and Brandon Frazier

    2014 U.S. World Ice Dance Figure Skating Team
    Madison Chock and Evan Bates
    Meryl Davis and Charlie White
    Maia Shibutani and Alex Shibutani
    Alternate No. 1 - Madison Hubbell and Zachary Donohue
    Alternate No. 2 - Alexandra Aldridge and Daniel Eaton
    Alternate No. 3 - Lynn Kriengkrairut and Logan Giulietti-Schmitt

    2014 U.S. Four Continents Ladies Figure Skating Team
    Samantha Cesario
    Courtney Hicks
    Mirai Nagasu
    Alternate No. 1 - Barbie Long
    Alternate No. 2 - Christina Gao
    Alternate No. 3 - Agnes Zawadzki
    2014 U.S. Four Continents Men’s Figure Skating Team
    Richard Dornbush
    Joshua Farris
    Adam Rippon
    Alternate No. 1 - Douglas Razzano
    Alternate No. 2 - Ross Miner
    Alternate No. 3 - Brandon Mroz

    2014 U.S. Four Continents Pairs Figure Skating Team
    Haven Denney and Brandon Frazier
    Tarah Kayne and Daniel O’Shea
    Alexa Scimeca and Chris Knierim
    Alternate No. 1 - Caydee Denney and John Coughlin
    Alternate No. 2 - Gretchen Donlan and Andrew Speroff
    Alternate No. 3 - Deedee Leng and Timothy LeDuc

    2014 U.S. Four Continents Ice Dance Figure Skating Team
    Alexandra Aldridge and Daniel Eaton
    Madison Hubbell and Zachary Donohue
    Lynn Kriengkrairut and Logan Giulietti-Schmitt
    Alternate No. 1 - Anastasia Cannuscio and Colin McManus

    2014 U.S. World Junior Ladies Figure Skating Team
    Karen Chen
    Amber Glenn
    Tyler Pierce
    Alternate No. 1 - Hannah Miller
    Alternate No. 2 - Leah Keiser
    Alternate No. 3 - Ashley Cain

    2014 U.S. World Junior Men’s Figure Skating Team
    Nathan Chen
    Jordan Moeller
    Shotaro Omori
    Alternate No. 1 - Jimmy Ma
    Alternate No. 2 - Chase Belmontes
    Alternate No. 3 - Nicholas Vrdoljak

    2014 U.S. World Junior Pairs Figure Skating Team
    Madeline Aaron and Max Settlage
    Kaitlin Budd and Nikita Cheban
    Chelsea Liu and Devin Perini
    Alternate No. 1 - Aya Takai and Brian Johnson

    2014 U.S. World Junior Ice Dance Figure Skating Team
    Kaitlin Hawayek and Jean-Luc Baker
    Lorraine McNamara and Quinn Carpenter
    Rachel Parsons and Michael Parsons
    Alternate No. 1 - Holly Moore and Daniel Klaber
    Alternate No. 2 - Elliana Pogrebinsky and Ross Gudis
    Alternate No. 3 - Chloe Lewis and Logan Bye
  2. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

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    Sending Aaron and C. Denney/Coughlin to Worlds, but not Nagasu? This is so wrong! :mad: :wall:
  3. Ziggy

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    Did Denney/Coughlin pass on 4CC? Given they aren't going to the Olympics, it would make sense for them to get an easy medal there. Strange.

    I see Razzano got passed over Rippon for 4CC.

    :mad: about Brown being dumped from the Worlds team.
  4. peibeck

    peibeck Counting down the days 'til Skate America

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    I have a feeling he may be there. ;)
  5. Marco

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    Looks like Aaron got Worlds instead of 4CCs. (or he passed on it like Wagner did 4 years ago)

    I think they fully expect Abbott to retire after Sochi and want a World Team of Brown and Aaron. But if they name the World Team as Abbott and Brown now, it would look like Aaron has no assignment for the rest of the season despite coming 3rd at Nationals.
  6. her grace

    her grace Well-Known Member

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    So what's the explanation about Nagasu not getting Worlds? US figure skating just hates her? :mad:
  7. icellist

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    seriously, Karen Chen withdrew from junior nationals. At least send Polina to jr worlds and Mirai to senior worlds...
  8. Ziggy

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    Edmunds has beaten Nagasu at Nationals and had higher scores so far this season. I don't see any reason to pick Nagasu over her. If anyone should get bumped off the Worlds team, it's Wagner, who bombed US Nationals.
  9. icellist

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    If they're giving Aaron and Denney/Coughlin worlds, give worlds to Mirai!
  10. eurodance2001

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    Talk about controversial picks for Worlds! D/C over Z/B and Aaron over Brown yet no Nagasu over Wagner or Edmunds.. The retire message has been delivered to Mirai..
  11. Marco

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    Congrats on Cesario, Farris and Rippon making 4CCs. Looks to be easy medals for them.

    The Junior ladies team makes sense. Too bad none of the age eligible ladies who skated in seniors (aside from Edmunds) scored better than the top 2 juniors did.

    I was rooting for Cain to have some sort of assignment (4CCs) after the strong fall season and short program she had but... :shuffle: Hope she gets some senior Bs / GPs next season since she scored reasonably well internationally earlier this season.

    Razzano and Miner. And this is justifiable, I feel, given Rippon's GP results.
  12. Allskate

    Allskate Well-Known Member

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    THIS. I feel terrible for Mirai. She just barely missed out on a medal at the last Olympics and now, despite medaling at Nationals, they pass her over for the Olympics. Then, just to rub salt in the wound, they deny her a spot at Worlds while naming others to the World team even though they didn't even place in one of the top spots at Nationals.
  13. AndyWarhol

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    I would have had Nagasu on the world team.
  14. Ziggy

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    Scores at non-ISU international events don't count towards GP selection. :( :mad:
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    Okay, now I'm angry. They let Aaron and D/C have worlds, but NOT Mirai? Now they are just being mean.
  16. chipso1

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    Max Aaron and Denney/Coughlin get Worlds but not Mirai? :huh: This makes absolutely no fecking sense!!
  17. FunnyBut

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    I supported their decision to put Wagner on the Olympic team, but wish they had given Nagasu worlds. Throw her a bone, at least. :(

    I know they are concerned about earning 3 spots again. But Gold and Edmunds should be hungry, for Gold a possible medal, and for Edmunds, a 1st crack at Worlds (you never know when you will get another shot at Worlds....just look at Mirai).
  18. Marco

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    Just a wild guess - was the world team selection announcement made before or after news broke out that she might be appealing the USFS' decision after talking to Weir?
  19. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    :( I love her skating so much.
  20. Ziggy

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    I am pretty sure it was after. :skandal
  21. her grace

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    Cain's nebelhorn score is on the SB list this season because it was the Olympic qualifier.
  22. Ziggy

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    Ah, I forgot about that. Thanks for pointing it out. That's an extremely lucky break for Cain. She might be able to make it to the GP series next season, then. :)
  23. Ilyich

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    Yup. Pretty disgusting.
  24. Louis

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    The USFS is not being mean; it's being smart. Nagasu announced she is going to appeal. She may hit the USFS with a lawsuit. Naming her to the World team puts the USFS at risk and weakens the case to send Wagner to the Olympics. If Nagasu was good enough for Worlds, she was good enough for Olympics.

    I wonder also if perhaps Worlds is leverage. Maybe the USFS will offer Nagasu a spot at Worlds if she drops her appeal / agrees not to sue. I doubt Wagner cares much if she goes to Worlds. We'll see how this plays out.
  25. Ziggy

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    I hope Nagasu sues USFS and wins.
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    So Polina can potentially place fourth against one of the many Russian wonders..... Nah. They probably want her out of Juniors and-into being established in seniors.
  27. burntBREAD

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    FWIW, it appears that Mirai no longer plans to appeal (with a rather classy statement I must add).
  28. eurodance2001

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    What she say? At first I kind of expected things to play out like this but now seeing the favoritism and political-ness of all of this, omg.. Terrible..
  29. Ziggy

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    I wonder what USFS did to scare Nagasu into silence. :/
  30. FunnyBut

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    I would think Wagner would be very motivated to go to Worlds, it would be her best chance to at last grab World medal, a major accomplishment she has yet to be able to claim. Ditto Gracie. Ladies with far greater resumes...Kwan, Slutskaya, Cohen, Asada, Kim...showed up at each post-Olympic Worlds , even though they had World titles and Olympics medals already under their belt. At the end of the Sochi Olympics, Wagner would likely have neither an Olympic or World medal...if she train a few more weeks, she might at least get one of them.
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  31. burntBREAD

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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...i-nagasu-bumped-20140112,0,1387055.column?678

    And also:

    https://twitter.com/olyphil/status/422553540607754241

  32. Marco

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    I don't believe she is appealing anymore. I don't think she wanted to. I believe Nagasu had said in the press conference that she would respect the USFS decision whatever it was.

    And in any event I don't believe she will win, because the criteria are there. The fact that they haven't ever deviated from Nationals placements does not mean they can't this time. And honestly, I just don't recall they ever HAD TO deviate from Nationals placement in picking the Olympic Team other than due to injuries. So this isn't so much an unprecedented decision by the USFS but more so an unprecedented situation of the dominant skater bombing Nationals.

    I agree with Louis. Nagasu not being named to Worlds (at this stage) is probably the doing of Weir and his big mouth. I think Wagner will most likely announce a convenient injury some time in late February.
  33. museksk8r

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    Maybe Mirai came to her senses because 1) she herself stated in the post-LP press conference that she would respect her federation's decision in selecting the Olympic team and because 2) she clearly has no chance to win an appeal given the clear selection criteria that the USFSA has in place at their discretion. The USFSA was always adamant that these championships were not an "Olympic trials" and that competitive history from the past 2 seasons would be considered in their decisions.
  34. RockTheTassel

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    Why would she do that? Worlds could be an excellent opportunity for her, and there's no reason to not go.
  35. Cheylana

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    I only see Wagner bowing out of Worlds if she kills it in Sochi. Otherwise, I think she'd want to try for a medal at a weak, post-Olympic Worlds. USFS doesn't give a stuff about Mirai.
  36. Vagabond

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    I think it's a big assumption that there will be a "weak" Worlds this year. Kim has probably learned her lesson from last time, but Asada, Suzuki, and Kostner would probably be only to happy to go out on top. So, for that matter, would Gracie Gold. :p
  37. ioana

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    Given all of Carolina's injury struggles this season, I wouldn't be surprised if she skipped Worlds after Sochi. Wanting to go out on top is one thing; realizing you could aggravate recurring injuries even further by going to Worlds is another.
  38. dinakt

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    How is Nagasu not getting Worlds, but Aaron and D/C are? That, to me, is the controversy, rather than the Olympic selection. The Worlds are not once- in- 4- years special events, why break the podium rule for everybody but one person who actually WAS on the podium ahead of the woman chosen?
  39. ltnskater

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    Hmm, actually this never occurred to me until now! True, they rather establish Polina in senior ranks sooner than the russian wunderbabies, and they can afford to do that since they still have strong junior skaters. That meaning by the time these russian babies move up to senior (after duking it out within their own country just to get international assignments), Polina would hopefully still be landing her triple triples to be competitive but be ahead on street cred in the senior ranks and get PCS above the russians!
  40. Ziggy

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    I am sure the answer lies in the 72-page long selection criteria. Page 59, appendix C, footnote 5. :D