US Team Envelope Assignments 2010-2011

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  1. babbyrabbit

    babbyrabbit New Member

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    When do they make the announcements for the 2010-2011 Team Envelopes?

    I am more curious as for who will be on team c's since we can pretty much figure in the other slots :)
  2. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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  3. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    In previous years the team envelopes came out in late April or early May, so in a week or so I would guess. I'm interested to see the international assignments, though I suppose those don't come out until later.
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  5. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Not necessarily true... we'll have to wait until all the envelopes are officially published on the USFS site.

    ETA: Any skater or team not in Teams A-C that receives an international assignment is automatically placed into the Reserve envelope (considered part of Team USA) and they will receive funding if they medal.
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  6. sammyf

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  7. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    Oh so she could get placed in the Reserve Team (likely she will...she did better at nationals than Alissa and Caroline and did pretty well at TEB) and could still get GP or Senior B assignments?
  8. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    I've quoted sammyf's post above and started a separate thread in GSD on the 2010-11 Canadian national team -- link is: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?t=73213

    The team envelopes (A, B, C) are about funding levels and are not directly tied into the type or number of international assignments a skater receives.

    The published criteria for Envelopes A-C is very straightforward, but scroll down for more info on the Reserve Envelope and "Additional Considerations": 2010-11 Team Envvelope Criteria.
  9. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Team envelopes A, B and C have been announced -- link to today's press release: http://www.usfsa.org/Story.asp?id=44590&type=media
    Castile/Okolski and Navarro/Bommentre are not listed in Team B - Tier One (the envelope they qualified for) so they must have officially notified USFS that they are retiring/not competing in 2010-11. Ditto for Bebe Liang, who is not listed in Team C - Tier One.

    ETA: Glad to see Alexe Gilles was placed in Team C - Tier One. :)
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    :(

    Interesting that B/A are still listed - I guess they just haven't notified USFS yet - from their interviews, retirement sounds like a done deal.

    Ryan Bradley and I/B are still listed, too. It sounds like Ryan is still undecided, but I wasn't expecting I/B to still compete next year (please say it ain't so!). :scream:
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    I'm surprised that Tanith and Ben did not officially notify USFSA that they are retiring.
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    Likewise, Inoue/Baldwin and Sasha Cohen are in the "B" envelope.
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    Sasha is still thinking about competing.
  16. haribobo

    haribobo Well-Known Member

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    Mirai was 4th at Olympics and still not in the highest tier? Sheesh. Weird rules. I/B- you gotta be kidding me, after his comments at Nationals, USFS should just ban his cranky a$$
  17. sk9tingfan

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    It appears to a certain extent that these envelopes have been fashioned to reflect the relative accomplishments of certain skaters and not others :p
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    Not really - there are specific criteria that have to be met to receive certain levels of funding. 4th at the Olympics is awesome but it's not a medal and thus Mirai stays in Team A tier 2
  19. Tammi

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    This press release summarizes retirements, splits and coaching changes during the off season, http://www.usfsa.org/Story.asp?id=44593&type=media . :fragile: over the split of Tracy Tanovich & Michael Chau.
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    on the usfsa website-they have a write up about who is retiring/changing coaches and dissolving partnerships.
    that might have clear up some questions regarding assignments and such.
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    Yuka and Alissa :)
  22. sk9tingfan

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    Really sad to see that Tracy and Michael split up, but we knew that that was coming; it was just a matter of time. We'll see how Yuka will do with Alissa, but I can't imagine that she will be able to crack that nut.

    Most interesting of all is the fact that Leah Keiser, the reigning US Novice Champion who is only twelve and won't be 13 until mid-September is switching to Frank Carroll. This young lady has oodles of potential and is really a sweet kid. :) I can't wait to see how she does this year.
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    why?
  24. TanithandBenFan

    TanithandBenFan U.S. Ice Dance Junkie

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    Surely, that must be a typo in the release where it says Becky Bereswill is skating with Fedor Andreev. Isn't she skating with Trevor Young? Fedor's a little busy with the La Khok drama. :lol:
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    Because Michael is only about 5'4" and Tracy was beginning to outgrow him. It was only a matter of time before she did so. The next question is, who will be her new partner?
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    Sad, but not surprising. I wonder if Michael will seek a new partner or just pursue singles.

    It will be interesting to see what Yuka can do with Alissa. I hope Alissa has a good season.

    Frank Carroll is getting busy. :)

    I interpreted that to mean that Fedor was coaching her. I guess he's a multi-tasker? ;) But yeah, I was under the impression she was skating pairs with Trevor....but maybe not. :confused:
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  27. Tammi

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    Hmm, it's listed under the coaching changes and doesn't mention that she's now skating pairs. Does Fedor coach (in between the reported drama in his life ;) )?
  28. Sylvia

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    AFAIK, Bereswill is planning to continue in singles (she will be starting college at the University of Michigan this summer). I don't believe she has officially announced a new partnership (yet).
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    Oh, OK, thanks. Does anyone know if Trevor has found a new partner? From his Twitter, it sounds like he's training again.
  30. TanithandBenFan

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    Ahh, thanks for the clarification. When I saw Johnny Johns, I just assumed pairs, which I guess sounds like it could still be a possibility. :)
  31. loopey

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    Sorry to hear the Castile/Okolski news, I was so excited when they both landed the 3sal at Nats. I thought this was a good omen for their future.
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    I really enjoyed watching Leah this year during Ice Network's coverage of Novices, and she already has amazing technique on her jumps! I can't wait to see how she grows as a skater under Frank Carroll. Great news to hear! :)
  33. judiz

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    If skaters retire, do the tiers remain empty or can a skater in a lower tier move up?
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    Before he returned to competitions, he did.
  35. Tammi

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    Skaters are placed in a tier based on their accomplishment, so they wouldn't move up simply because a higher tier skater retired or a team split. I think the rule for moving up a level during the season is for reserve envelope skaters. If they medal at an international event, they go up to envelope C immediately and would be eligible for pro-rated funding.
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  36. rhumba

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    What about the teams that we know that they're most likely retired but still in the envelope, e.g. B/A, I/B. They will still receive the fund until they officially do not show up at the GP?? My understand was the fund was given quarterly which means these teams will still receive some money from USFSA??
  37. carriecmu0503

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    If they accept training funding from USFS, and then don't end up competing, they are required to give the money back to USFS.
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    Me too. I liked them and hoped they'd continue. :(
  39. TalentedButHumble

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    I'm really behind on my US skaters news. Are Castile/Okolski both out of skating, period?Also sorry about Summersett/Gilles. I forgot that Best/Young split but at least he *might* get a new partner(?). Sheesh, seems like half the people I've actually seen around DSC are splitting up/ leaving.

    I also agree it seems weird to see Mirai slightly below the "top tier," despite explanations of what that means.

    (And it's weird to hear about some other promising team/ skater quitting before I ever saw them. :p)
  40. PRlady

    PRlady aspiring tri-national

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    Agghh, I missed the news about Summersett/Gilles. I know their results this year were disappointing but I really liked their 2009 programs, a lot.
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