US Pairs 2013 News and Updates Part II

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  1. NadineWhite

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    Denney & Frazier are in 4th place (he bailed out of their sbs 3-salchows and I think she doubled hers?), also she had a hand down on their throw-3R, but everything else was superb! :cheer2:

    Scimeca & Knierim are in 2nd place (he fell on their sbs 3-salchows; hers was perfection) and they had an unfortunate fall near the end of their program, otherwise everything else was truly WORLD CLASS, FIRST RATE!!! Gold Medal contenders at Nationals most definitely. :smokin:


    ETA: and I give Scimeca & Knierim props for going for & landing that gorgeous throw-3F!!! :eek:
     
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  3. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    Nepela SP protocols: http://www.slovakskating.org/ont/2013/21ONT_Pairs_SP_Scores.pdf

    Re-posting what I wrote in the Kiss and Cry forum:
    Considering S/K both went down on the footwork and received no score for that element and Knierim fell on the 3S, they scored well! Knierim is skating with a metal plate and 9 screws in his ankle: http://figureskatersonline.com/scimeca-knierim/journal/

    Great job by Donlan/Speroff! :cheer: They got credit for the 3T (-), + on lift and 3STh and had 3 level 4 elements!
     
  4. olympic

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    ^I hope Chris is OK and that the falls were just opening jitters and not part of his injury. They're my favorite US team right now.
     
  5. Sylvia

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    The falls on the step sequence really disrupted Scimeca/Knierim's SP, but it's a nice program. Considering they lost over 10 pts on the missed elements (not including whatever PCS hit they took), and the fact that they lost a couple levels they could easily get, they should score extremely well with that. I thought the GOE for their throw could have been higher too. It's one of the better throw triple flips/lutzes out there.

    Donlan/Speroff are stunning, they really are. They really have some rare qualities, and it's a joy to be able to watch a team like this. She seems to be getting more consistent in going for her jumps and getting them on her feet. The 3T still looks UR sometimes (she got full credit here though), but she's improving. Hopefully they can get the levels up on the elements where they only got credited for base level.
     
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  8. reese

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    Donlan/Speroff won Nepela! Not a clean long, but so pleased that they get an international win.

    Scimeca/Knierim finished third. They just aren't ready yet, but I'm guessing they will be fine by January.
     
  9. NadineWhite

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    Soooo very HAPPY for Donlan & Speroff on their 1st international win, and like a poster said in the K&C it's good for their confidence and they can use the points, right on! :respec:

    Not a great skate for all 5 pairs, they all had falls and mishaps, but they got through it, that's important. And I honestly see Scimeca & Knierim and Denney & Frazier come blazing back for US Nationals. They both are strong jumpers and powerful teams. One's just getting over injury (i.e. S&K) whereas the other is just making their debut on the senior international circuit (i.e. D&F).

    ps: it was lovely seeing the new young Russian team as well. :)
     
  10. Sylvia

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    Nepela FS protocols: http://www.slovakskating.org/ont/2013/21ONT_Pairs_FS_Scores.pdf

    Senior international scores after Nepela Trophy:
    188.47 Denney/Coughlin (61.66 SP, 126.81 FS; Salt Lake, 2nd)
    167.27 Kayne/O'Shea (60.31 SP, 106.96 FS; Salt Lake, 3rd)
    165.91 Castelli/Shnapir (62.26 SP, 103.65 FS; Salt Lake, 4th)
    160.19 Donlan/Speroff (56.63 SP, 103.56 FS; Nepela, 1st)
    156.91 Davis/Brubaker (54.04 SP, 102.87 FS; Nebelhorn, 5th)
    153.34 Scimeca/Knierim (51.17 SP, 102.17 FS; Nepela, 3rd)
    142.48 Denney/Frazier (48.71 SP, 93.77 FS; Nepela, 4th)
    130.20 Zhang/Bartholomay (50.23 SP, 79.97 FS; Salt Lake, 7th)

    Next up:
    Castelli/Shnapir, Denney/Coughlin & Zhang/Bartholomay at Skate America
    Davis/Brubaker at Skate Canada; Leng/LeDuc & Calalang/Sidhu at Cup of Nice (Senior B)

    2013 U.S. Junior champs Britney Simpson/Matthew Blackmer's names were crossed out on the ISU site as of today (Oct. 4) from the Rostelecom Cup Grand Prix in Russia (an official or public reason is not known at this time). It was reported during Champs Camp, which they both attended in late August, that Simpson was recovering from shoulder surgery in June.

    Junior Grand Prix top total scores with 1 to go:
    134.33 Chelsea Liu/Devin Perini (JGP CZE, 5th)
    131.66 Madeline Aaron/Max Settlage (JGP BLR, 2nd); JGP EST next
    122.25 Kaitlin Budd/Nikita Cheban (JGP SVK, 7th); JGP EST next
    112.17 Christina Zaitsev/Ernie Utah Stevens (JGP BLR, 7th)
     
  11. hippychick

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    Any chance that Donlan and Speroff will be added to the alternates list with their win in Slovakia.
     
  12. Sylvia

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    If I understand the GP Announcement correctly, Donlan and Speroff will be added to the alternates list, but not at the end of it, which they'd be by winning Ondrej Nepala; rather they'll be 3-7 4-8* couples away from being moved into the Top Five group from which alternates are chosen, based on their SB 38 from last season. Still, it's not very likely that they'll get a GP spot off the alternates list.

    *This depends on whether teams with one or none get selected off the list. A team with none remains in the Top Five until it gets two. A team with one that gets a second opens up a spot for a new team. [ETA: I recalculated the number of selections before D/S could move into the Top Five, both worse-case and best-case scenarios and fixed it. The earliest they could be picked is 5th; the latest isn't never, but they could be bypassed for quite a while.]

    They were not on the alternates list before Nepala, because didn't make the GP (total) minimum at Skate America (they were 4.16 shy), and they missed the GP SP TES minimum (20) -- new this year -- twice last (Skate America, Nebelhorn 2012) by less than a point. At Nepala, they exceeded the minimum by 12.83 points, or 64% :cheer2:
     
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  14. olympic

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    For anyone who missed it in the K & C -

    D/S LP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SMn7ETOSUA

    They seem to be gaining confidence and they skated with good speed / attack on most elements. I couldn't tell how well she landed the first throw jump ... except those SBS jumps. I'm not sure what they will ever be able to do about their jumps. Still, good score and the win might further bolster them. I'm also glad she pruned down the tutu; IMO the bigger tutu distracted from her beautiful extension

    S/K LP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_4eqd6fs0I

    I braced for worse when I saw the score, but considering that he is coming off of injury, I was generally pleased by this performance. It's obvious they are working on PCS. The step-outs on the throw jumps were minute and they move across the ice with such natural ease. I was also worried that he might still be injured but it didn't appear that he struggled at all through the performance. I imagine they will work on just getting their consistency together for the GP series
     
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    I actually think that D/S sbs jumps have improved tremendously this year. They have not had a UR call in their S/P on their 3 toes all year, and no falls. At midAtlantics they landed all jumps cleanly. Hopefully Nepala will serve as a confidence booster for them. While D/S are definitely amoung the weaker of the top US pairs jump wise I still don't think that any of the US teams can be called completely consistent. None of the US teams jumped well in the LP at Nepala and D/S were the only US team to both land their jumps in the SP, it seems like someone should celebrate that!
     
  16. NadineWhite

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    Eloquently stated, hippychick, and I concur. :) :cool:

    Here's to celebrating Gretchen Donlan & Andrew Speroff on their growing consistency. They've worked hard and it's paying off in big ways, YES!!!!:encore::cheer2:
     
  17. Sylvia

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    Tweeted by USFS today:
     
  18. NadineWhite

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    GREAT NEWS for Lindsay & Rockne! YESSSSS! :encore: :cheer2: (thanks for posting it, Sylvia) :)

    I really do love this pair, have since I heard they were first pairing up, and even moreso when I saw them skate at their most recent competition at the US International Classic. Love their costumes, music, choreography, moves, spins (yeah they're doing the reverse lasso lift!), and everything else in between. Here's hoping they skate clean and do well at Rostelecom Cup. :cool:

    And I'm truly sorry to hear about Simpson/Blackmer, another favorite of mine since I first saw them skate "Titanic" (iconic performance imho), but it's wise to take time to heal Britney's injury properly and then come back fierce & fighting. :smokin:
     
  19. NadineWhite

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    Heads up:

    Madeline Aaron & Max Settlage skate tomorrow (they already have a silver thus far on the JGP, here's hoping for the same or better results):

    http://www.isuresults.com/results/jgpest2013/

    GOOOOOOOOOOO MADELINE & MAX!!!!:kickass:

    ps: hopefully somebody puts up a youtube video tomorrow (crossing fingers)...
     
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    Davis/Brubaker are on the ISU GP grid for Rostelecom Cup as of the 9 October iteration.
     
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    ^ I think 5 US teams have 2 GP slots (D/C, S/K, C/S, Z/B and now D/B). That must be a record!
     
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    reese, you're right they just posted the first team's video, yeah, now Maddy & Max are up! :cool:
     
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    I'm a bit surprised that D/B have two assignments. I just don't see them as contenders to even make the Olympic team.
     
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    Make it 6 pairs now! USFS just tweeted that Haven Denney/Brandon Frazier have accepted an invite to Skate Canada.

    Skate America: Castelli/Shnapir, Denney/Coughlin, Zhang/Bartholomay
    Skate Canada: Davis/Brubaker, Denney/Frazier
    Cup of China: Scimeca/Knierim, Zhang/Bartholomay
    NHK Trophy: Castelli/Shnapir, Denney/Frazier
    TEB: Denney/Coughlin
    Rostelecom Cup: Davis/Brubaker, Scimeca/Knierim

    Cup of Nice: Calalang/Sidhu, Leng/LeDuc
    Ice Challenge: TBA
     
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  28. johndockley92

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    Is it possible for Kayne/ O'Shea to get a GP?
     
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    Yeah it's sad that a team that's superior to some of the teams getting GP assignments is stuck outside looking in. D/B should not have gotten two events while a team that has been far more impressive like K/S don't have any.
     
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    Don't the host nations select alternate picks instead of the ISU? In the past, a big problem we've seen on occasion is that the hosts would pick "lesser" picks instead of the next best skaters in line in order to not make the field any more difficult for their own country's skaters. The point of the GP should be to have the absolute strongest fields possible, not to make it an invitational for the host nations. The ISU should be assigning the next highest scoring skaters to any available GP spots. Did Kayne/O'Shea's Sr B score get them on the alternates list? I forgot how it works exactly, but if it did, they should have been the next in line right?
     
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