US Pairs 2012-13 news & updates

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  1. olympic

    olympic Well-Known Member

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    If they were to get together, they'd have a lot more leeway to do something 'sexier' or more romantic than Rockne would have with MBM
     
  2. ioana

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    Dunno, pewter medal after less than a year together and huge improvements from their early-season outings are anything but discouraging, I would think. I'm not sure what their end goals were, but based on how much progress they made after just one year together, even Sochi wasn't out of the question. OTOH, I always liked Lindsay and am hoping this means she has a chance to get a good partner after a strong showing this year. I'm behind a Davis/Brubaker pairing.
     
  3. semogal

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    I really enjoyed Lindsay and Mark's performance at Nationals. They showed much improvement from their GP assignments. And their Gala performance was a big crowd pleaser. Sad to hear they are already calling it quits.
     
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    I think Davis and Brubaker would look great together.

    I suspect Ladwig wanted to see if his experience would make his new team competitive, especially if a D/C and M/B tandem could get a third Pairs spot, since M/B hadn't split at the time. Even with M/B out of the picture and Y/R non competitive, while US Pairs aren't the deepest in the world, there are solid young teams competing now, and the odds of D/C and C/S earning that third spot are less than D/C and M/B, which was a long shot anyway.

    He also may not have been ready to give up skating when Evora did, but maybe this year was what he needed for closure.
     
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  5. jdonavan

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    But was the field really all that depleted? I thought it was one if the stronger US Nats for Senior pairs in some time. Even without D/C and Rockne and Y/R the skating was quite strong. Its a new generation coming up and frankly I'm thankful.

    Mark has always been a wonderful leader in US pairs and I wish him all the best in the future!
     
  6. LilJen

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    WHAT???? They did so well after less than a year together!!
     
  7. aftershocks

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    How do you get Skate Radio? Is it only broadcast during figure skating events, or is it exclusive to U.S. Nationals?
     
  8. TwizzlerS

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    You need to be at US Nationals and purchase the ear phones.
     
  9. madm

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    Lindsay is from So Cal and was training in L.A. previously with Themi and Peter Oppegard, so moving back to So Cal might be her preference. I could totally see her skating with Rockne and John Nicks (or Meno/Sand) at Alisa Viejo! Her size is perfect.
     
  10. olympic

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    She would probably need some time to acclimate to a shorter male partner, but she strikes me as someone who is spunky and can easily make adjustments. IMO, 4-11 is actually the perfect partner size for Rockne. Keauna was just a bit too tall and MBM was just a bit too short
     
  11. madm

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    Skate Radio is a volunteer activity put on by the Professional Skaters' Association (PSA). In addition to broadcasting in the rink at U.S. Nationals, I think they have also done broadcasts at Skate America and maybe at Skate Canada. If you ever attend Nationals, you can buy the Skate Radio set (receiver and earphone) for about $15 at the USFS merchandise table. The broadcasts have been only for Senior events (SP and FS). Jimmie Santee was in charge of it this year, and he always had two people commentating with him who were former skaters or judges for the specific event. Some of the guests I recall are Rockne Brubaker, Nancy Ruedebusch, Brent Bommentre, Kim Navarro, David Santee, and Ryan Bradley. Jimmie provided the play-by-play calling of the elements (like a technical specialist would) - he was able to see the technical specialist's screen on his table, so that he could tell you which elements were under review and what level they were called. Hearing this broadcast makes it so much easier to understand the skaters' scores (e.g. underrotated jump calls, levels earned on each element). Jimmie did not have access to the judges' marks though. If you were in the rink and wonder where they were located, they sat at a table on the main concourse behind the K&C, right next to the Ice Network broadcast table.
     
  12. DarrellH

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    I was thinking of this scenario before the season even started. If he found the right partner, would Rockne skate past this next year?
     
  13. euterpe

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    Rockne is 26, not old for a Pair skater. I could see him sticking around til 2018.
     
  14. Lacey

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    OK, I'm in. West Coast. Just not sure about Sand/Meno, Oppegard or would Nicks even take on a pair? Choreo? To me, it's a done deal,, even before a tryout.
     
  15. madm

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    Of course Meno/Sand and Nicks would take them on. They all previously worked with Rockne. Nicks would probably be a secondary coach though since he is phasing out of coaching. And Philip Mills would be a wonderful choreographer for them.
     
  16. carriemarie

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    Meno/Sand would absolutely take Rockne and any partner on. I am sure Oppegard would be happy to as well. Nicks wouldn't be up for anything other than a little consulting. Without sounding harsh, though, Lindsay is the right height, but she is bigger overall than Keauna and Mary Beth. Ladwig is taller than Rockne and struggled with Davis because she was bigger than Amanda. I feel like Rockne might have the same issues.
     
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    Lindsay is a natural jumper so I think the only real strain on Rockne would be upping his strength training for lifts. But with all teams, more practice on timing.
     
  18. carriemarie

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    She has wonderful jumps, but the twist will be an issue as well. Rockne has a different technique than Mark (and Themi) with twisting. And she really has never had solid throws. To be completely honest, if Rockne is looking towards 2018, he should find a singles girl. If he is looking for a decent placement next year than Lindsay is his choice, but they certainly won't make the Olympic team and I don't think Rockne cares much about a pewter medal at Nationals. The young first year teams threw down this year and Rockne will have to really bring something great to the table if he wants to be considered for Sochi. I think Rockne is an excellent skater that should absolutely be on an Olympic team, but sometimes that doesn't always work out.
     
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    Amanda Evora and Rockne were seen talking at Nationals....discuss
     
  20. acraven

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    During one of the pairs Skate Radio broadcasts, Rockne was asked about his partner search. His response was something like, "Sometimes you just have to introduce someone to pairs"--suggesting that he is open to taking on another singles skater. I'd guess that if he's thinking that way, 2018 is a real possibility. I agree that the senior pairs field at Nationals was unexpectedly strong, with lots of new teams that look really, really good together and can jump. Wonderful as Rockne is (and he is exceptional), getting to 2nd--or even 3rd--place next year with someone new to pairs wouldn't be a foregone conclusion.
     
  21. carriecmu0503

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    I would say it means nothing. They tried out last summer and decided it wouldn't work. Amanda has a full time job and a life in Florida that she made pretty clear she didn't want to leave. Rockne made it pretty clear he's not leaving So Cal. I think they were probably two acquaintances talking, nothing more. Amanda would likely still have all the same jumping issues she had with Mark, which I am willing to bet Rockne would not want to deal with. He's been there, done that already with Keauna. I would be very surprised if those two team up.
     
  22. carriemarie

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    Don't tease us with such information. I have always hoped for a Bruvora pairing, but the stars won't align for me. I miss Rockne and Amanda at Nationals, but I have no issues with the current pairs. Truly the best event in pairs in a number of years all around without some of the front runners.
     
  23. carriemarie

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    They are obviously not teaming up, but Amanda's jumps aren't the issue (and I believe Rockne is in Chicago these days). Mark found a girl that could jump and that didn't pan out terribly well. They skated the best they possibly could at Nationals (and it was great) and were fourth. Amanda and Mark could have won the title this year with 2-3 mistakes, if we are being honest. I guess sbs jumps aren't everything in pairs.......I don't want to sound mean, but Evora without training for a year > Lindsay Davis any day of the week. I have no vested interest in Amanda Evora or her skating, but I don't know why her jumps get ragged on all the time when the fact is she is Olympian and, well, Rockne is not. I don't think it is fair to say he would have to 'deal' with anything with Amanda, but I truly hope Rockne finds a great partner and achieves what he wants in skating.
     
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  24. jdonavan

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    Agreed, I'm not sure when Rockne became the savior of Pair Skating....perhaps the same time Caitlin did...? Amanda Evora has proven herself as a skater many times over and is now proving herself as a coach, I was just curious about the subject of conversation! :watch:
     
  25. carriemarie

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    Well, I think we all can agree that Amanda is not Gracie Gold as far as jumps, but Donlan/Speroff are sooooo amazing. The bottom line is Amanda pulled her jumps out when it counted and Rockne (well Keauna) did not. So much time is wasted on Caitlin and Rockne when the future of pairs is right in front of us. Both are wonderful skaters, but I don't think either one is going to shock us with another national title. I honestly feel bad both skaters haven't made it to the Olympics, but such is figure skating. Ice is slippery.
     
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  27. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    I started a new thread in GSD earlier today for all notable team split news and posted about these 2 Novice pair splits post-Nationals, now listed on icepartnersearch.com (IPS):
    Elise Middleton (3rd with Robert Hennings - I liked them :()
    Juliette Erickson (11th with Connor Fleming)
     
  28. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    The part I bolded below is news, sort of:
     
  29. hippychick

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    Isn't Caitlin Y. in Canton?
     
  30. LilJen

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    Yes, Caitlin is in Canton. But for the umpteenth gazillionth time: Caitlin is TOO TALL FOR ROCKNE. And they trained in the same place for several years, so they are well aware of whether they would match or not.
     
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