Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, May 4, 2012.
I saw him at Senior Dance short as his brothere was competing.
I wonder if Rockne is able to get a partner after the nationals...
I didn't realize D/C would be petitioning to Worlds.
Denney/Coughlin have been assigned to Worlds. (I'm assuming it's provisional, based on monitoring his condition and their preparedness.)
I caught this on Icenetwork, too: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130127&content_id=41200138&vkey=ice_news
Shouldn't the USFSA wait until they see how healed John is before assigning them to Worlds???
I totally assumed that Worlds would be C/S and S/K. Didn't even think D/C would be in the mix.
S/K still need to keep training hard, I just have a feeling they will be going to Worlds. Love to see them get there.
They'll monitor them closer to time. I don't know how much it matters which order they do this in.
Especially considering that D&C and S&K train together. S&K will be well aware of the likelihood of D&C being ready.
I agree. It's especially interesting that they train at the same rink.
I hope John doesn't push too hard and injure himself for next year. At least S/K get 4C in any case.
Good Point, and a bonus for S/K. They'll know their future plans before anyone else.
I think that S/K have much higher potential internationally than D/C. Maybe not this year, they need one more season to build, but as of right now they're my bet for the highest-placing US team in Sochi.
I'm excited to see S/K develop, hopefully with outside choreography.
Yes, their basics are all there. Chris is an excellent partner, he seems so secure in the lifts and his feet look neat in the turns. I especially love how gently he sets her down and I remember that he was good at that skill with all his partners. Alexa is lovely and fits him so well. I'm getting excited about this team and pray they stay together (I'm still not over Marley/Brubaker, ).
I, too, was really impressed with S/K. I hope they can stick it out for a long time.
2013 World Championships
Marissa Castelli/Simon Shnapir
Caydee Denney/John Coughlin (pending monitoring)
Alternate 1 - Alexa Scimeca/Chris Knierim
Alternate 2 - Felicia Zhang/Nathan Bartholomay
Alternate 3 - Lindsay Davis/Mark Ladwig
2013 Four Continents Championships
Marissa Castelli/Simon Shnapir
Alexa Scimeca/Chris Knierim
Felicia Zhang/Nathan Bartholomay
Alternate 1 - Lindsay Davis/Mark Ladwig
Alternate 2 - Gretchen Donlan/Andrew Speroff
Alternate 3 - Haven Denney/Brandon Frazier
2013 World Junior Championships
Jessica Noelle Calalang/Zack Sidhu
Haven Denney/Brandon Frazier
Britney Simpson/Matthew Blackmer
Alternate 1 - Madeline Aaron/Max Settlage
Alternate 2 - Jessica Pfund/AJ Reiss
Alternate 3 - None
I love S/K. They are beautiful on the ice, and they have a "star quality." If only D/S could get their act together, too, because S/K and D/S are now officially my favorite US pairs teams!
Why would USFSA not assign a 3rd alternate to the World Juniors team? If they are building a pair program like they say they are wouldn't that help one of the developing teams?
Well, Brenna Doherty already on IcePartnerSearch...and so the post-US Nationals begins???
I'm guessing it is because there are no other pairs with the required minimum score...
sammyf pointed out in the 2013 US Nationals forum in Kiss and Cry that Belt/Johnson (9th in Junior Pairs at Nationals) and Oltmanns/Santillan (11th) attained the minimums at the 2012 Youth Olympic Games and the JGP in fall 2011, respectively.
Belt/Johnson have yet to compete in a JGP -- they are still age-eligible this coming season, so hopefully they will continue to develop and progress in the months ahead. O/S (he) will age out of ISU Junior after this season.
Thanks! Perhaps then they simply assumed that the 3rd alternate would never come into play anyway, so no need to put pressure on these developing, but not ready for the big stage yet, teams.
Best of luck to Rockne!!
Hopefully they will still add the third alternate?
Rockne was a commentator on Skate Radio (broadcast in the rink) during the Pair FS event on Saturday.
USFS is monitoring John's progress. I talked with his coach at Natls., and John is healing very fast. He and Caydee have been doing lifts and twists off-ice, and they begin working out on the ice today. John's labrum tear was caught early and his surgery was done laproscopically, so he has just 3 holes and no major incisions. He had a fantastic surgeon and he has been working out 9-5 daily with therapists at the Olympic Training Center. I'd say he has the best conditions possible and has a good chance of being in great shape in a month.
Thanks for the update. That's awesome news!
I'm hoping for the best for John (& Caydee), but I wish he would take a note from Gracie Gold & Courtney Hicks, whom both were injured in the past, took a year off, and came back smoking! Seriously, G.G. won the 2012 US National Jr. Title, and Courtney won the pewter medal her first year in Seniors.
On the contraire, too many skaters have been pushing their bodies too soon too fast after injury/surgery and as a result have seen their return sidelined by injury once again (e.g. Evan Lysacek, Evgeni Plushenko, Alissa Czisny). 'nuff said.
Every injured athlete's situation is different as well as their timeline for injury recovery.
BTW, Gracie Gold didn't take a year off - she didn't qualify for 2011 Nationals because she finished 6th at Midwestern Sectionals that season.
True, Sylvia, that's a given.
As for John, I wish him the very best, they're still America's #! Pair Team and rightfully so.
Regards Worlds, we shall see...
First break up of the off season is Ladwig and Davis. They have broken up as of today. Probably be officially announced in a few days.
Lindsay is 4'11". Might Rockne be interested?
Ladwig is 32. He is probably retiring unless a deal to pair him up with a superstar is in the making. (Love those Caitlin, Rockne, ..guessing games).
Let the US pairs musical chairs begin.
Tantalizing. She's a good jumper and does have decent extension. How old is she? I mean, is she in danger of a growth spurt? That would destroy a working partnership with Rockne.
But backing up, any scuttlebutt as to why D/L split?
Just wow. Right as they were getting it together. So of course. Jeez, U.S. pairs....
I'd be shocked if Ladwig takes another partner, but I was shocked he competed this year. It seems like time for retirement has come. He is a great skater, but has been on the national stage for a very long time. It isn't likely he'll make it to Sochi, and waiting for he next Olympics will be very long indeed.
Actually, I think Brenna Doherty & Craig Norris, were first, since - posted above - she is on IcePartnerSearch already, though that is Junior - still, US Pairs Musical Chairs is underway!
Aren't alternates required to keep training their current programs? If so, younger teams, especially, might rather focus on next season than be a third alternate with a miniscule chance of competing.
No danger there. Lindsay will be 21 in April. Agewise, she would be better suited to Rockne than his two previous partners.
I was kind of under the impression that Ladwig continued in part to see how he could do with a partner who could jump better than Evora. But pair skating is a lot more than that. Even while pretty much doing the best they could at Nationals in a depleted field, D/L still didn't really come close to making it to Worlds, which was probably discouraging. They did much better at Nationals than they did on the GP circuit, so they can be proud of that.
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