Underrated Skaters that You'd like to Acknowledge

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by icellist, Apr 26, 2012.

  1. icellist

    icellist New Member

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    There are so many skaters out there that practice everyday and try their best yet we only pay attention to a list of skaters. Which skaters do you think are underrated or unknown that you'd like other people to take note of?
    ie. a skater from a small unknown country with great jumping abilities or a skater from a big fed that can't shine through despite great performances
  2. Loves_Shizuka

    Loves_Shizuka Well-Known Member

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    I want to say Zlobina/Sitnikov but maybe they aren't underrated?

    I love them anyhow :inavoid:
  3. aftershocks

    aftershocks Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for starting this thread. I really enjoyed watching Christopher Caluza and Victor Pfeiffer at Worlds in Nice. Christopher had an excellent showing too at 4CC this year. I had heard Christopher's name before but I don't ever remember seeing him skate when he was a U.S. skater at Nationals. It's great that Christopher had the opportunity to represent The Philippines. He is obviously very talented, but w/o this opportunity, he likely would never have been able to go to Worlds. He has some wonderful qualities.

    Victor P has a smooth, lyrical style and I enjoyed his programs. I wish him continued improvement, and a rise in the standings in the future.
  4. PinkFeathers

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    I can't help but be a fan of Misha Ge. He's a real firecracker on the ice, and while he's not perfect in terms of technique, I still cheer for him. I know he's had trouble with his back, so I'm taking that into consideration as well. Also, his story of just GETTING to Nice was crazy! He's such a nice kid, and his tweets always make me smile :D

    He was pushing the other day for a 7th country in WTT, made up of skaters from countries that would never qualify :cheer2: :lol:
  5. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    Isn't it funny and somewhat sad that I watched this guy skate at Worlds and the only thing I remember is that flawlessly smooth and awesome moment where he pulled his pant leg up to his knee because of a broken bootstrap, without ever missing a beat in the program or the music - he made it look like it meant to happen! :lol:
  6. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    Ryan Jahnke!!!
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    spikydurian New Member

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    ChelleC Well-Known Member

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    Misha Ge and Christopher Caluza
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    Johnny_Fever New Member

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    Duchesnay all the way. Not that their unknown.
  10. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    I am glad you posted that program again anyway, regardless of if they are underrated or not. It is such a good program.
  11. clarie

    clarie Well-Known Member

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    Kevin Reynolds is my pick. He has worked to hard to improve his presentation and other aspects of his skating yet he is held back on PC's. I really enjoy watching him now.
  12. aemeraldrainc

    aemeraldrainc Active Member

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    ITA.
    :respec:
  13. Debrah

    Debrah Well-Known Member

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    Count me as another on the Kevin Reynolds bandwagon!
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    puglover Active Member

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    Count me on the Kevin Reynolds bandwagon as well. He has really come a long way in addressing his weaknesses.
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    Indeed. Kevin has natural sense of musicality and I thought his performance has significantly improved since he started to work with Shae-lynn Bourne. I really love his SP this season.
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    Elena Glebova.
    Elene Gedavanishvili.
    Valentina Marchei.
    Viktoria Helgesson.
    I really have enjoyed watching all of these girls. I know Elene Gedvanishvili has two European Bronze medals but she has yet to really do well at Worlds.
    I also wish Elena Glebova could improve. He skating technically has gone backwards in the past few years but I do like her choreography.
    Valentina Marchei is a fighter but so inconsistent.
    Viktoria Helgesson has really improved this year but her jumps need to be stronger.
  17. midori

    midori Well-Known Member

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    Another fan of Kevin Reynolds here also thinks he's underrated.
  18. victoriaheidi

    victoriaheidi New Member

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    She's not exactly underrated, but Leah Keiser doesn't have the crazy fandom of Gracie Gold.
  19. AliasJohnDoe

    AliasJohnDoe Spin Alissa Spin!!!

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    Angela Wang!!!!
  20. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    A blast from the past: Matt Savoie.
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    Nina Jiang: Time will tell with her but if she ever gets her jumps under control she will tough to deal with. She has a wonderful presence on the ice...reminds me of Yu-Na at times.

    Yasmin Siraj: Wonderfully musical performer. Again, jumps are her issue but she has probably the best musical interpretation of all of the junior level skaters.
  22. aftershocks

    aftershocks Well-Known Member

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    ^^ skatesindreams :) :respec: (Matt Savoie deserves his own tribute thread on FSU)

    Not too distant past ... I will always associate Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings with this performance from Matt: :swoon:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFAsNpBJbk0 2005 Nats sp

    Matt was so undermarked and so underrated -- he should have been scored in 5.7 - 5.9 range for technique and 5.9 - 6.0 for presentation and been in first place. Many youtube posters give Matt fine tributes and rip the judging. One post tho' which mentions that skaters placed before Matt had quads, except for Johnny, are absolutely incorrect. Evan Lysacek did not have a quad in 2005, but he was placed ahead of Matt, incredibly. The 5.3, 5.4, 5.5, and 5.1 !?, marks for Matt for this performance are absolutely shameful and disgraceful. What contemptuous and pitiful scoring which reveals the stupidities and inequities of this sport, but this is definitely not the only instance, nor the last.

    Fortunately, Matt did not allow the disrespect from the judges and his own Federation to dissuade him from continuing to pursue his goals. Here is his equally spine-tingling and mesmerizing performance at the 2006 Olympics:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-zsYqfw-pg (forgive my posting w/ Scott Hamilton commentary :( which is puerile and disruptive -- At least Dick provides some balance toward the end, but then Scott destroys it by mentioning Evan Lysacek and "miraculous" in the same sentence -- as if Matt's performance had anything whatsoever to do with "answering" Lysacek's "recovery" after the sp.)

    Matt was an elegant, understated skater, and I believe his personality is also elegant and understated. What peerless and sublime transitions on and off the ice, during and after his skating career:

    Matt Savoie graduated summa cum laude from Bradley University in 2002, with a major in political science and a minor in biology. He went on to earn his master's degree in urban planning from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign in 2005 and received the AICP Outstanding Graduate Student Award for 2005. He was admitted to the law school at Cornell University in 2005, but obtained a deferral for a year to focus on making the Olympic team. He joined the program in September 2006, and graduated in 2009. Following his competitive career, Matt completed a four-year term as the athlete representative to the Single & Pair Skating Technical Committee of the International Skating Union. He is currently working as an associate in the law firm of Choate Hall & Stewart. (Wikipedia)
  23. VALuvsMKwan

    VALuvsMKwan Wandering Goy

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    Agree with Ryan Jahnke and Matt Savoie, and am adding Angela Nikodinov in her "blossoming period" - what a joy to watch.
  24. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    I was in the arena for 2005 Nationals.
    I watched Matt's SP - the "Adagio" as tears streamed down my face.
    An unforgettable privilege.

    I was very upset at his marks - as was Dick Button!
  25. JamieSix

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    Cathy Reed and Chris Reed. :D
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    lmarie086 Well-Known Member

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    aftershocks, you just made me upset all over again for all the times that Matt Savoie was underscored! I can't watch a program to "The Mission" or "Adagio" now without thinking of him.

    Off to watch old Savoie performances. :swoon:
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    pani Well-Known Member

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    Zlobina-Sitnikov, Ralf-Hill this season.
    Stolbova-Klimov
    Kevin Reynolds
    Vanessa James
    Lynn Kriengkrairut and Logan Giulietti-Schmitt
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    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

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    Kim Lucine
    Stephen Carriere
    Katarina Gerboldt and Alexander Enbert

    Was gonna say Valentina Marchei, but she's already been mentioned.
  30. SmallFairy

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    Mikkeline Kirkgaard!

    The Danish federation didn't at all realise what a very special skater she was, jumps or not!
    I so much wish we could have seen her compete for so many more years, with tons of beautiful programs....
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    julieann Well-Known Member

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    Stephanie Rosenthal and Rohene Ward
  32. carriemarie

    carriemarie New Member

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    I like Mikkeline, but as someone who actually trained with her (not Danish) obviously here in the US, she was very tempermental and would fight with her coach Henrick all the time. Comparing that to the way that Michelle interacted with Frank (back when they were insync) she didn't seem to have that competitive spirit and mental toughness to make it to the next level. Lovely skater, though.
  33. rhymer

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    This was the first name that came to my mind as well. He has so many wonderful qualities in his skating I always wished he would recieve more recognition.
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    Lu Chen. I always felt that she never really got the artistic mark that she deserved.
  35. icellist

    icellist New Member

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    Joelle Forte, Kristiene Gong, Angela Maxwell, Bebe Liang
    K/G-S and L/C definitely!

    I'll make a better list when i have more time

    how about some unknowns from japan?
  36. Aussie Willy

    Aussie Willy Well-Known Member

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    Rubbish. Maybe you might like to have a look at her competitive record.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Lu
  37. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    ITA about Savoie... what a freaking shame that he peaked just before being quadless became acceptable. He could've been world champion like Buttle.
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    Moka-Ananas Man's Ruin

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  39. julieann

    julieann Well-Known Member

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    I always like Obertas but I never thought she had the right partner
  40. shine

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    He should have, but most likely would have never had with the presentation marks that he was getting. Buttle had the full backing of the entire Skate Canada while USFS was all about Weir/Lysacek/Weiss, and Savoie was merely an after thought. I always felt so unfair about how much Buttle could get away with because of his huge PCS while Savoie, a skater who had many similar strengths (and better jump technique as well as being more enchanting for me), had none of that priviledge.
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