Underrated or Obscure Performances

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  1. JJS5056

    JJS5056 Active Member

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    We've all admired Lu Chen's Rach and felt better about our own sanity after watching Olga Markova's "Let My People Go" at one point or another. But, what are some performances or programs you feel haven't gotten the attention they deserve, whether that be because you think they've been overlooked or because they simply haven't been seen by many?

    Olga Markova - 1997 SP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21d8g1ydxcA

    In honor of Markova's better days, I present her take on Bolero from 1997 Europeans. This was to be Olga's final season of relevancy, as she would be surpassed by Sokolova in the 1997-1998 season, but I'll always love her for bringin' voidy back when it was simply called Euro-trash.

    Shishkova/Naumov - 1997 LP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz1n9vyGX18

    Olga's teammates, Shishkova and Naumov, also were more or less retired at this very same competition. Robbed of being 3-time World Champions and Olympic bronze medalists, they would return to their Don Quixote LP the following year for their GP events, but not before gracing us with this lovely rendition of Meditation that showed off what made this team the class of an otherwise embarrassingly thin field of pairs during the mid-90's.

    Krisztina Czako - 1998 SP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQZglgKf3KM

    Krisztina Czako would meet a similar fate to S/N and Markova just one year later. While her 1997 programs that won her a European silver were brilliant, it's her 1998 SP that proves they were no fluke. Uploaded by Krisztina herself, this program would contend for 1st at any major event these days.

    (Warning: the sound is a bit off so it may seem she is off the music at times)

    Underrated as always, she was placed 4th in this segment of 1998 Europeans and disappeared from the eligible skating scene soon after in spite of a brief comeback in the fall of 1999:

    SP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5MBjy88oD4
    LP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ajInv-E30k

    Stiegler/Zimmerman - 1997 Worlds LP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kkYFPnn9yM

    The forgotten Stiegler, Stephanie, finally made a World team in 1997 after just missing out in 1995 and 1996. While their inconsistency cost the USA a third spot for Nagano, her and John Zimmerman's free skate to "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" is one of my favorite pairs long programs. It's also one of the very few of his career that really showcased John's talents, IMO, that were largely wasted on the ice queen Ina. Their skate from Nationals has long been admired, but it's nice to hear an international commentary of the program.

    Shizuka Arakawa - 1998 Olympics SP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4fFzm8Iics

    Diva Arakawa busted out a double lutz-triple toe in the short program of her first Olympic Games. Who would've thought this same skater would win gold 8 years later?

    Laetitia Hubert - 1998 Olympics LP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNWmwuxFgQc

    Sadly, 1992 wasn't Laetita Hubert's only Olympic meltdown. This performance resulted in a heated feud between Laetitia, her coach, and the FFSF.

    Laetitia Hubert - 1999 LP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avdiE1QJiFw

    One year later, Hubert portrayed a drug addicted prostitute. Though this program has become more mainstream since being shared on YouTube, I don't think it's right for a thread on obscure programs - or one mentioning Hubert - to not include a link.

    Schwarz/Muller - 2000 LP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5HHvXC-9W0

    Peggy Schwarz competed in 3 Olympic Games with Alexander Koenig before teaming up with Mirko Mueller and landing on the podium of the 1998 Worlds. For their final year of competition, they took on the heavy theme of domestic abuse for their long program:

    Denise Biellmann - 1993 TP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKYQxRteuis

    Denise Biellmann is known mainly for her spins and athletic jumps, but her 1993 program to "On Golden Pond" showed a different side to her skating that was really quite lovely.
     
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  2. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    Stanick Jeannette had a few memorable skates.
     
  3. Loves_Shizuka

    Loves_Shizuka Gettin' my sass out

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  5. leapfrogonice

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    Many performances by Rahkomo/Kokko.

    In ladies, the 1980 short and long programs by the American skater SANDY LENZ. Knees like butter. Layback to die for.
     
  6. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    I had to google image Jeannette for a visual reminder...oh, the costumes!! :eek:
     
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    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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  8. all_empty

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    Ah, Stan Jeannette.

    I'll never forget his "Le Petit Prince" free skate with his sock puppet hand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja-YefLRRMg

    I really liked the OES of this era -- Klimkin (maybe not so OES), Smalun, Chiper -- interesting skaters with good choreography.
     
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    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Bechke and Petrov's "I Masnadieri":
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTA-at8bSec

    It's one of my favourite programs of theirs. It was their exhibition piece for the 1991 and 1992 seasons, and they also performed it on their first tour with Stars on Ice in 1994. I love the dramatic music, there are some great voidy moments, and Elena actually looks relaxed. IMO I think they would have fared much better in the 1991 season had this been their LP.
     
  11. DannyCurry

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    I'm not sure that lovely "Patch Adams" LP deals that much with domestic abuse.
    Maybe you meant their LP from the 1998/99 season?
     
  12. N_Halifax

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    Sandra Garde's "Night On Bald Mountain"
    Laetitia Hubert's FS to "La Femme Nikita" (known widely as her prostitute on drugs FS)
    Laetitia Hubert's SP to "Tango" from "Cirque Du Soleil"
    Charlene von Saher's SP to "Remembering A Heartbeat"
    Olga Markova's SP to "Harlem Nocturne"
    Bestemianova And Bukin's "Rock Around The Clock"
    Eric Millot's "Out There"

    EVERYTHING Hartshorn and Sweiding, McDonald and Smith, Rakhamo and Kokko, Scott Williams, Liz Manley, Rory Flack Burghart and so many, many others did as pro's

    I could go all day, but this is a start.
     
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    This performance by the lovely and athletic Karen Preston at the 92 Olympics:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLLLEsTOSJI

    On a night of splatfests one of the personal highlights of the night. Nobody remembers or cared though, only focusing on the splatfests of the big stars fighting for the medals that year, and the breakthrough great skates of Chen and Sato, so I am happy to recognize Karen for her great technical skate and Olympic moment.


    So many women doing PB skates at the 93 Worlds:

    Preston: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAjMZPR4NQI
    Kiellmann: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHA091VZyo0
    Szewcenko: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEbB86JhYTo
    Kulovana on her home ice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcMeIUy3D7o

    Plus the 3 medalists but they wouldnt count for unknown or obscure.


    Kulova and Von Sahers lovely short programs at the Lillehammer Olympics:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ_9hu5hhZQ Kulovana
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXa2RfUymTU Von Saher
     
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    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Another few to point out:

    Jennifer Boyce and Michel Brunet's 1994 FD to a Chieftans medley
    Drobiazko and Vanagas' "Sunrise At Alcatraz" FD
    Annie Bellemare's SP's to "Somewhere In Time" and "The Piano"

    ITA about the ladies at 1993 Worlds and Karen Preston's 1992 Olympic FS. Definitely!
     
  16. falling_dance

    falling_dance ToT Thread For Sale

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    Susan Humphreys' short and long programs at 1996 and 1997 Canadians, error-strewn though they were
    Haruna Suzuki's SP and FS at 2011-12 Japanese Nats
    Diane Szmiett's 2009 Cup of China FS (very good edges, and she outscored Flatt and Nagasu in that segment of competition)
    Chantelle Kerry, 2012 Four Continents FS
     
  17. briancoogaert

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    Yes, but his 2000 Worlds LP was very nice :)
     
  18. PairSk8Fan

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    Any of the performances of Katherine Healy.
     
  19. casken

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    Ok I just dscovered this gem of a FD a few weeks ago and I've been waiting for a thread to post it in.

    I can't say it's underrated since I don't think I've ever seen anyone post about it ever, but it's definitely obscure, and just the opening and ending choreography, in combination with the vocals, makes me :rofl: so hard that I had to share.

    Nowak and Kolasinski 2002 FD
     
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  20. TwizzlerS

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    There was also the eponymous Michael Chack performance at US Nationals that was never shown on TV.
     
  21. all_empty

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    It's a shame they didn't skate "Patch Adams" well at Worlds. If I recall they did a nice job with it at Skate America.

    Kudos for Peggy for having such a long career. Mirko (as with many of the German male pairs skaters) had much better posture than his partner, was easy on the eyes, and usually extremely consistent.
     
  22. paskatefan

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    Good one! I also think that a lot of Matt Savoie's programs qualify for this designation.
     
  23. clairecloutier

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    Here's two performances of an early Mishkutenok/Dmitriev exhibition program:

    Worlds 1991 EX
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YLBOJ3j-Sc

    Skate America 1988 EX
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOY0VpPVO8Q

    I still remember this program because of the many unique moves and the interesting, different music (not to everyone's taste, I'm sure).

    Looks like they used it for three years. It's sort of interesting to compare the two versions and see how much they improved in these years. The 1991 performance is skated with a lot more authority and conviction (although unfortunately the video quality is not good).
     
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    At the World Chamionships in late 1980s and 90s, Soviet and Canadian teams skated well choreographed, competition length exhibition numbers. AWESOME.
     
  27. NadineWhite

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    Excellent thread, great memories, and wonderful performances! :cool:

    I too recall Surya's breathtaking EX at the 1998 Olympics; she loves opera and that one was for the ages, the emotion/music/performer/everything flowed & was just perfect. *bow*

    Another one that touches me and I can see her skating to it now was Denise Beillmann's performance to Terence Trent D'Arby "As Yet Untitled" (cried the first time I saw it):

    http://www.songlyrics.com/terence-trent-d-arby/as-yet-untitled-lyrics/

    There was another one she skated to it in the 1994/95 season and it was some type of jungle music, and holy smokes did she own it, her powerful big huge jumps and that endless headless scratch spin, nobody could touch her!!! Nobody! :hat1:
     
  28. NadineWhite

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    To me in order to be a memorable performance there has to be EMOTION!!!!

    The skater must skate from the soul, from the heart, to touch the people. Forget about mistakes, blah blah, if there is no emotion, no soul, no heart, I don't give a fig how perfect the performance was, how many jumps were landed, how fake the skater was, etc. Without emotion it means absolutely nothing. Period. Finito!

    Thanks for listening. :)
     
  29. ballettmaus

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    Each time I watch that performance, I find myself regretting again what happened to the partnership and think of what they could have become... And I don't usually do that because... why cry over spilled milk, right? But they were just an incredible pair!
     
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