U.S. Men 2012-13 pre-season news & updates

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, May 13, 2012.

  1. Conga

    Conga New Member

    338
    18
    0
    And I wish that they would go back to 12 spots. Does anyone know if there has been discussion of returning to the larger field?
     
  2. LilJen

    LilJen Well-Known Member

    9,924
    1,685
    113
    ^ One wonders. How much has the ISU actually saved with the reduction in the number of skaters competing on the GP? I have my doubts that they'd actually do the calculations :shuffle:
     
    PeterG and (deleted member) like this.
  3. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

    20,976
    3,872
    113
    Dornbush was guaranteed one from 20 WS. Farris would have been guaranteed one if USFS had submitted his name for selection.

    Like Zemgirl said, Weir was guaranteed two as a comeback skater, and USFS didn't pick him for Skate America.

    If they wanted to compromise, they start with 12 and say that any withdrawals within X weeks of the event won't be replaced.

    Under this, last season, five of the six Men's events would have been down to 10* or 11, instead of two being down to 9, and two of six Ladies' events would have been down to 10 or 11, instead of one being down to 9.

    *In case withdrawals rose for bigger fields.
     
    Last edited: May 22, 2012
  4. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

    3,821
    971
    113
    It does?

    Other than putting his name into the assignment pool, the USFSA didn't do anything. The invitations came from the Russian and French Federations. And, if I'm not mistaken, he was automatically entitled to two assignments because he signed the returning-skaters agreement with the ISU, just like Miki Ando.

    Now, if he were skating at Skate America, you might have a point.
     
  5. Jaana

    Jaana Well-Known Member

    3,884
    168
    63
    The big difference is that Ando is a World champion who is coming back, but will every senior skater who is just coming back get that benefit of two GP assignments? Weir was no World or Olympic medalist as he left the competitions.
     
  6. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

    3,821
    971
    113
    Isn't the guarantee slightly broader than that? I have some recollection (which could be incorrect) that it was broad enough to include Weir based on his World Ranking at the end of the 2009-10 season or his bronze medal at 2008 Worlds.

    Regardless, all we can say it that the USFSA submitted Weir's name. It didn't pick him for Skate America, and I doubt very much that it politicked for him instead of, say, Dornbush, who needed the politicking more than Weir did.
     
  7. Zemgirl

    Zemgirl Well-Known Member

    5,609
    1,905
    113
    In last year's GP announcement, comeback skaters were defined by the ISU as "Skaters/Couples who were previously seeded (placed 1 to 6 at any previous ISU World Figure Skating Championships) and subsequently did not participate in one or more competitive seasons". Weir has been a seeded skater before, so he can return to the GP circuit as a comeback skater - this year.

    To use other examples: if, say, Laura Lepisto were to decide the return to competition one day, she would be able to do two GPs as a comeback skater. If Kevin van der Perren decides he'd like to make a run at Sochi after sitting out the coming season, this provision would apply to him (he was 6th in 2008). The Kerrs and the Zaretskis could be comeback skaters (5th and 6th in 2010).You do not have to be a World Champion or an Olympic (or even World) medalist.
     
  8. love_skate2011

    love_skate2011 Well-Known Member

    1,635
    150
    63
    told you Weir has more chance of a comeback then Lysacek :lol:
     
  9. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

    32,613
    5,004
    113
    New article: Rippon plans to skate like a mad man; Seibert gives skater new direction: 'It's an era, it's a cool guy'

    Cross-posting from the Music/Choreographers thread:
    Relevant FS music excerpt:
    ETA links to the 2 tracks cited in the article:
    "Life's Incredible Again": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij8Js3hyp60
    "Saving Metroville": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJikHkZ55_s
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2012
  10. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

    20,976
    3,872
    113
    Oh, that's brilliant!

    I didn't think I could love Michael Seibert any more, but <3 ^ 2:

     
    Last edited: May 23, 2012
  11. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

    32,613
    5,004
    113
  12. LilJen

    LilJen Well-Known Member

    9,924
    1,685
    113
    Darn well better be, or he hasn't much of a future.
    :lol:
     
  13. jlai

    jlai Title-less

    9,103
    637
    113
    Don Draper doesnt need more hard sell than this. :p
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2012
  14. Wyliefan

    Wyliefan Well-Known Member

    18,036
    2,390
    113
    NOT THE CURLS!! :wuzrobbed
     
  15. Jaana

    Jaana Well-Known Member

    3,884
    168
    63
    Oh, yes, the curls away as he is no Shirley Termple, LOL.
     
  16. Primorskaya

    Primorskaya Trummerlotte

    1,598
    581
    113
  17. Impromptu

    Impromptu Well-Known Member

    1,504
    430
    83
    Ha, if a lack of curls means I never have to hear the phrase "Angel Boy" again, I'll personally Fed Ex him a bottle of Nair.
     
    jamesy and (deleted member) like this.
  18. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

    32,613
    5,004
    113
    ^^^ :lol:

    BTW, Emmanuel Savary competed a Senior FS in an LA area club competition last week (scored 85.65) as did Andrew Gonzales (99.75). I believe Frank Carroll is still the primary coach of both. I don't know whether or not Savary has tested up yet or plans to do so. Gonzales was 6th in the deep Senior Men's field at Pacific Coast Sectionals in November 2011.
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2012
  19. euterpe

    euterpe Well-Known Member

    11,909
    1,156
    113
    Adam needs to stop stalking that 3A: just do it! The stalking was starting to affect his 3Z as well.
     
  20. BittyBug

    BittyBug Kiteless

    15,494
    3,860
    113
    I wouldn't have expected Savary to move up to Seniors so quickly, especially since he doesn't yet have a triple axel. I wonder what their strategy is.

    I like Gonzales and hope he'll make it further this season.
     
  21. 2sk8

    2sk8 Active Member

    780
    79
    28
    Competing Senior at a non-qual competition this early in the season might be nothing more than "skating up" because no other Junior Men entered.
     
    gkelly and (deleted member) like this.
  22. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

    10,697
    364
    83
  23. kwanfan1818

    kwanfan1818 I <3 Kozuka

    20,976
    3,872
    113
    Maybe he doesn't look angelic, but he certainly is a vision. (Would that be a costume violation?)
     
  24. Anita18

    Anita18 Well-Known Member

    11,214
    1,039
    113
  25. misskarne

    misskarne #408

    6,477
    1,431
    113
  26. Jammers

    Jammers Well-Known Member

    4,091
    425
    83
    Who's the hot chick in the bikini?
     
  27. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

    32,613
    5,004
    113
    Actually, I think this photo is more Don Draper-esque ;): https://twitter.com/Adaripp/status/206098378042515457/photo/1

    Here's Douglas Razzano posing with the same "hot chick in the bikini" (Bianca Butler, former U.S. national/junior international pair skater): https://twitter.com/DouglasRazzano/status/206118010178641921/photo/1

    Ross Miner tweeted this action photo from Hawaii yesterday (he and the Shibutanis seem to be having a blast there, based on their tweets!): http://instagr.am/p/LEkF2URVRs/
     
  28. olympic

    olympic Well-Known Member

    7,145
    620
    113
    ^Men in FS are more buff thru the upper body than I'd imagined :)

    There's not a lot of bells and whistles connected to Doug Razzano and his skating style, but he's turning into a fave of mine for some unknown reason ... I'm fast turning into a fan of Doug, Josh and Richard (I hope I don't have to give up hope on the last one)
     
  29. aftershocks

    aftershocks Well-Known Member

    4,953
    833
    113
     
  30. winterone

    winterone Banned Member

    126
    11
    0
    Are there any Pairs guys out there with a 3x, 3 lz and triple triple combos ?