U.S. Men 2012-13 news, updates & general discussion

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, Sep 16, 2012.

  1. Iceman

    Iceman Well-Known Member

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    One thing about Evan, he can be counted on to be prepared. I will be interested to see how his DWTS experience affects his skating and choreography.
     
  2. centerpt1

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    I don't quite "get" Abbott's SP yet. Looks like there may be gloves as gloves and gloves as guns? Also it was difficult for me to switch between suave spy and hip spy. I usually love his work (jumps or no) so hopefully I'll figure it out watching SA.

    Hopefully the two weeks will help and he'll look more prepared to skate those two programs at SA.
     
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  3. victoriaheidi

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    "Bring Him Home" is a beautiful program. My only concern is his jump placement. Obviously, that wasn't the fully competitive version, but should he really be placing next to no jumps in the beginning and the majority of his jumps at the end? Risky choice for Jeremy, but I love that program.
     
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  4. skatefan102

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    the question is is two weeks enough. He got his programs really late and then he got a really early GP assignment. I hope he can pull them all together in time.
     
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  5. victoriaheidi

    victoriaheidi New Member

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    Also, forgive me if I missed it, but did Nathan Chen get a diagnosis?
     
  6. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    If he has, it hasn't been publicized. On a positive note, his injury didn't seem to keep him from doing some walking/touring around the old city of Zagreb from a few photos I've seen online.
     
  7. jlai

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    I'd love to know he's okay, though I must giggle a little at Chen being discussed in a US Men's thread. :)
     
  8. pinky166

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    Hanyu will be tough to beat. As for Kozuka, he kind of tanked most of last season, so while I like to hope he's back on track now and will return to his late 2011 form, we'll have to wait and see. Certainly his scores and placements from last season show he's vulnerable. Hanyu seems more consistent and a stronger competitor in general, but he's also so young that he could still potentially be dealing with body changes that require adjustment. We'll have to see. As of right now, both these guys, along with Javi and Dai, look to be in good form. And Richard. The Czech and French men, otoh, seem quite rusty/not ready yet. But it's early and that could change.
     
  9. misskarne

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    Figure Skating: Where Thirteen Year Olds Are Men.

    :lol:

    Jokes aside, I hope it's not serious. Which Regional/Sectional thingywhatsy does he have to do? How long does he have?
     
  10. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    Nathan Chen has a bye through his Regionals (Central Pacific) this month and so his next scheduled competition is Pacific Coast Sectionals, November 9-13, to qualify for Nationals.

    BTW, confirmation that 2011 U.S. Junior silver medalist Alex Zahradnicek is skating now for France is in the French Masters article I posted in the French skating news thread: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3706314#post3706314
     
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  11. victoriaheidi

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    Lol, I know. :p His brother and I go to the same school, and I remember once having a conversation like this in our class FB group (before I knew they were brothers):

    Guy we go to school with named Nathan Chen: something random
    His brother: Woah, that's my little bro's name!
    Me: It's also the name of a US Men's skater I love.
    His Brother: Dude, that's my brother...but he's not a man!

    LOL

    ETA: I haven't crossed paths with the elder Chen (aside from facebook), so I couldn't just ask him for an update on his brother.
     
  12. aftershocks

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    ITA! The more I watch both of Jeremy's new programs, the more mesmerized I become. Very cool sp -- love that kickin' hip hop dance move he does close to the end ... and the ending itself is classic and iconic, but still unexpected! :cool: And remember, he's performing under show lights on crappy ice. Can't wait to see these programs in competition. Stay cool and in the zone, Jeremy. Find a way to make nerves work for you. Release, and let go while maintaining balance and edge. Go into the gap between thoughts and rock it. You are the bomb!

    There's so much to be revealed in his fp with repeat viewings. Looking forward to seeing the full version in competition. :cheer:
     
  13. Jaana

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    Shouldn´t that be called Tano lutz after Boitano?
     
  14. Skittl1321

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    Tano is one hand overhead, Rippon two. He was doing a Rippon.
     
  15. Ziggy

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    How about calling the jumps with two arms overhead jumps with two arms overhead? :shuffle:

    It's always been clearly and significantly pre-rotated.
     
  16. aftershocks

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    I can just hear Boitano and Rippon scathingly declaring: NO WAY, Zigs!!!
     
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    ^^ Being discussed also in the Lysacek comeback thread. I'm glad Armin gets a GP spot. :)

    Oh well, no Abbott vs Lysacek just yet.
     
  19. dots

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    Well this blows!

    :fragile:
     
  20. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    aftershocks, can you please take any re-hashing of past seasons' U.S. men's competitions to the Trash Can? Thanks in advance.

    It's always good to come across local coverage of figure skating, especially of U.S. men - here's a blog article about Dornbush's silver in Finland and coach Tammy Gambill's hectic travel schedule (Shotaro Omori is the correct spelling of the junior man she accompanied to Germany this week): http://blog.pe.com/gregg-patton/2012/10/08/figure-skating-dornbush-skates-to-second-in-finland/
     
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  21. aftershocks

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    Look okay, Sylvia, but you will also need to monitor and enforce others' former season and out of place commentary in GSD as well, don't you think?
     
  22. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    ETA: aftershocks, I'm not a moderator here and I can't tell you or anyone else what or where to post. I was just making a request, that's all. Feel free to start a new thread in the Trash Can to re-hash past competition results.
     
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  23. aftershocks

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    Ditto. So much for my failure to see your pre-emptive request initially, much less for my overall presumptuousness!


    Dear Sylvia, my aim was to respond to other posters' equally out of place comments in the Evan thread, not to get into a back and forth with you. In any case, since I respect you very much, I've acquiesced already across the board to your requests/ suggestions/ advice not to post rehash comments in the GSD threads in question. Thanks for all you do.

    As to starting a series of U.S. men's rehash threads in Trash, at the moment, NEVERMIND.
     
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  24. Ziggy

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    aftershocks can you kindly stop spewing pointless and senseless bullshit all the time and then on top of that flip when somebody tells you nicely to cut it? I mean one only can take as much of your verbal diarrhoea... :drama:
     
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  25. aftershocks

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    One person's flip is another's flap. Ah, and you might want to look up the proper spelling for that very uncomfortable condition, of which you might also be in the running (no pun intended) for as well. ;)
     
  26. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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    It's the British spelling of the word.

    BTW, I believe you when you said you didn't see my initial request before posting here, and I appreciate that you've since moved your post to the Weir thread in the Trash Can. :)

    Keegan Messing has received a second Senior B assignment following his bronze at Nebelhorn -- he will join Max Aaron at Cup of Nice in France later this month (Oct. 24-28).
     
  27. jlai

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    Aahh, so basically the first senior B sort of acted as a skateoff--the podium finishers among the US men get another assignment. That's pretty fair.
     
  28. aftershocks

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    Thanks as always, Sylvia! Brit spelling of that "burning sensation" is news to me, and I didn't know Ziggy's a Brit. ;)

    In any case, I'm not flipped out re your requests/ suggestions. It definitely can be annoying when GSD threads stray too far OT (not that many of them don't quite often).

    Off to take my probiotics, but doubt I'll ever learn how to edit myself, much less quit "spewing" to Ziggy's satisfaction. :p
     
  29. museksk8r

    museksk8r Holding an edge and looking dangerously sexy

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    I've never gotten the sense that Abbott has a confidence problem. He has openly admitted though that he has a problem staying focused in competition. I really wish he could get a handle on that once and for all.
     
  30. aftershocks

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    ^^ Yeah, I wouldn't describe Jeremy as necessarily having a confidence problem. But, e.g., last season, he reacted with surprise a few times in the kiss 'n cry re high scores from the international judges. Perhaps understandable because he has been low-balled at times, especially in PCS. I think Jeremy needs to work on feeling good about himself and his abilities, particularly when he skates well, and try not to over-react to the judges' scores, good or bad.

    I also think Jeremy may be someone who tends to "think too much" during competition, or perhaps "overthink" beforehand. He did say that he has worked with a sports psychologist. If I were him, I would explore working with someone different, experiment with pre-competition preparation and take whatever approach to competition that is going to work best for him individually. It's not enough to do the training and prepare the programs and go out there hit or miss re the mental aspect of his skating. If nothing changes in that habitual mental sphere, then nothing will change re his overall results in big moments.

    Not saying I'm a psychologist, but I did some reading about the psychological aspects of athletes' performances as a direct consequence of watching Abbott's and Rippon's 2012 Worlds performances. As I said previously, I think part of the difficulty has to do with U.S. Nationals being so major and intense, unlike the Nationals that many non-U.S. competitors experience. It takes such a battle to make the U.S. team. How do U.S. medalists pace and prepare themselves in the aftermath of Nationals in order to be at their best for Worlds?