U.S. Men 2012-13 news, updates & general discussion

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  1. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    There are separate news/articles threads in GSD for the 2013 World team members - links:
    Max Aaron
    Ross Miner

    The always entertaining and informative blogger Jason Brown's first installment from Junior Worlds in Milan! Cross-posting from the Junior Worlds forum in Kiss and Cry and the Farris/Brown Uber thread: http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130225&content_id=41967172&vkey=ice_news

    @joshDfarris tweeted today:
    "Awesome first day in Milan!! Going in to the city tomorrow, can't wait!"

    I've compiled a Men's total scores list in the Junior Worlds forum in Kiss and Cry: http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/sho...Stats-thread&p=3848333&viewfull=1#post3848333
  2. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    Jason's blog made me very hungry.
  3. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    Jason is such a good writer. His blogs come off like he's a Rhodes Scholar gosh! Glad Josh appears to be enjoying himself despite presumably not being able to eat most of the yummy food that has been described, I'm thinking back to that silly video he and Jason made last year at Junior Worlds banquet where Josh could only eat the veggies. Praying for no allergic reactions this time around.

    Also, happy birthday to Max! Enjoyed the part about him buying his first suit...weird he went 21 years without a proper one! He seems like such a goof :)
  4. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    I think they need to make it warmer backstage. Last year the highlight of the videos was watching them warm up in shorts. Skating costumes do nothing to show off how athletic these guys are. In shorts their legs are insane.

    Also loved Keegan jumping over the space divider with no effort in the first video.
  5. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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  6. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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  7. NadineWhite

    NadineWhite Well-Known Member

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    :kickass:GOOD LUCK TO JOSH FARRIS AT JR. WORLDS THIS WEEK!!!:kickass:

    Here's hoping he brings home the gold. And I truly think he will do so, especially after reading that he plans on seeing Leonardo da Vinci's "The Last Supper" in person. Ahhh, I wish I was him, how lucky! :saint:
  8. Zemgirl

    Zemgirl Well-Known Member

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    I guess it is a secret known to few that going to see The Last Supper guarantees a good skate.

    :rolleyes:
  9. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    Well you never know. He is probably using it as a reminder to double-check his dinner ingredients the night before the competition. ;)
  10. NadineWhite

    NadineWhite Well-Known Member

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    we shall see..... ;)
  11. antmanb

    antmanb Well-Known Member

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    I went to see the last supper three years ago.....I wonder how my skating lesson will go on Thursday :rofl:
  12. Zemgirl

    Zemgirl Well-Known Member

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    Since it's been a while, I recommend a quick hop to a local museum for some art appreciation, or at least that you view the masterpiece online.
  13. antmanb

    antmanb Well-Known Member

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    :drama: I keep the entrance ticket in my wallet as a memento....does this count for nothing?!
  14. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    Aha! So that is the secret. I would have had my loop jump months ago if only I had known to go look at this painting! :lol:
  15. NadineWhite

    NadineWhite Well-Known Member

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    Here's hoping the three Americans can pull off a sweep tomorrow, which hasn't been done since Kristi, Tonya, and Nancy did it back in 1991 at Big Worlds! :respec::kickass:

    GOOOOOOOOOOOO JOSH, SHOTARO, AND JASON!!!:smokin:
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    Zemgirl Well-Known Member

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    Except, you know, in 2008, when Flatt, Zhang and Nagasu finished 1-2-3 at JW. And 2007, when it was Zhang, Nagasu and Wagner. And 1998, with three Russian ladies on the JW podium. If you're going to equate senior and junior Worlds, at least get the history right.
  17. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

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    Facts. :blah:

    ;)
  18. Zemgirl

    Zemgirl Well-Known Member

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    I know! Facts ruin everything. :D
  19. NadineWhite

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    Ooops, didn't bother to check the junior girls because its the men I'm interested in, and the facts state that no American junior men have ever pulled off an upset sweep yet, hope that changes tomorrow. :cool:

    And if they do I equate that to the first time Kristi, Tonya, and Nancy did it at Big Worlds in 1991.

    Tata!:kickass:

    GOOOOOOOOO JOSH, SHOTARO, JASON!!!:respec:
  20. Jammers

    Jammers Well-Known Member

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    And now we can't even get one american girl on the podium at Worlds. :(
  21. Zemgirl

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    If you're only interested in the men, why did you equate them with the ladies (which is the correct term, not "girls")? Why is it considered an upset for the Americans to do well, especially considering that the best 18 year old in the world left the junior circuit long ago and last year's champion isn't competing this year, either? There are some other questions I could add, but I'll stop at that.
  22. ioana

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    Maybe this comparison would make more sense to me if I had recently seen The Last Supper.
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  23. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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  24. olympic

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    The US men just swept the podium at Jr. Worlds! -

    http://www.isuresults.com/results/wjc2013/CAT001RS.HTM

    1. Josh - 228.32
    2. Jason - 224.15
    3. Shotaro - 204.34

    Jason actually beat Josh in the LP - 154 to 152! Josh fell on the 4T

    Will these marks get Josh and Jason Sr. GP assignments next year?
  25. jlai

    jlai Title-less

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    Josh will get gp for sure. Jason's chance improved with his season's best at junior world. (There can't be too many skaters who can beat that season's best who aren't already in top 24)
  26. victoriaheidi

    victoriaheidi New Member

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    Woot! Way to knock it out of the park, guys!
  27. pinky166

    pinky166 Well-Known Member

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    I hope this means GP for Josh and Jason and that Shotaro will skate as a senior at Nationals next season! Way to go guys!
  28. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    They also medalled at this event last year and skated well enough to be guaranteed at least one spot for this season's GPs. Didn't stop the USFS from keeping them junior.
  29. Tesla

    Tesla Whippet Good

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    Or maybe they chose to stay junior. It might be a good idea for Jason to stay junior and really polish the triple axel. Maybe he can work on adding a quad with less pressure in juniors v. seniors.
  30. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Jason Brown has stated that it was his and his coach's decision to stay junior this season - I assume this was in part for Jason to gain consistency on his 3A in competition, which looks like a smart decision now since he won silver and gold on the JGP without landing a clean 3A and landed all 3 of his 3A attempts for the first time at Junior Worlds. He and Josh Farris both got to compete in the Sochi Olympic venue at the JGP Final as well, which they wouldn't have done had they moved up. Farris should gain a ton of confidence by winning the Junior World title on top of his successful Nationals, so I think both made the right decisions for this season, in retrospect.

    It also looks like both guys should be in the top 24 of the ISU World Standings rankings heading into next season - my calculations have the WS order, with 2010-11 points dropped and 2011-12 points reduced to 70%, as: Miner, Abbott, Dornbush, Farris, Brown (good chance to be in top 24), Rippon (will drop out of top 24 for sure), Aaron.

    ETA Season Best total scores (200+) order for the U.S. men heading into Worlds is:
    Miner 235.37, Aaron 234.65, Dornbush 234.04, Farris 228.32, Abbott 227.63, Brown 224.15 - around cut-off for top 24? - Chen 222.00 (returning to JGP), Rippon 210.47, Omori 204.34 (likely returning to JGP), Mahbanoozadeh 203.65.
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  31. modern_muslimah

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    I don't see Josh staying junior next season. He's won everything he possibly could on the junior circuit, he came in fourth at senior nationals and he's in the top 24. If USFSA doesn't submit his name for the senior GP, I would be very surprised. I think a case could be made for keeping Jason junior another season but I could see him moving up too.

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  32. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    I think the USFSA would be nuts to keep either of them back if they want to go up. Damon Allen's remarks about a "nice end to Josh's junior career" etc suggest that he's going Senior whether the USFSA wants him to or not, and although a case probably could be made for Jason to stay down I think there's nothing to be gained there, he's won pretty much everything except for the JWC, and is that really enough of a carrot to send him round again in the Olympic season?
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    I think the emoticon generator just perished from overuse.
  35. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    "U.S. men pull off unprecedented sweep in Milan": http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130302&content_id=42192778&vkey=ice_news
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    Jason would be nuts to stay a Junior. He's already better then most of the top Senior men so why stay as on the JGP?
  37. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    I'll bet it was!
  38. centerpt1

    centerpt1 Active Member

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    Why stay Junior? It's an Olympic year. They have a serious shot at making the team.
  39. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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    Re-posting Jem X's article link from the Junior Worlds forum in Kiss and Cry - Phil Hersh spoke to Jason Brown via phone from Milan: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...n-helps-make-history-20130302,0,1623762.story
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    centerpt1 Active Member

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    Very sensible.